PPE Centrifugal filtration
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PPE Centrifugal filtration
Anyone tried the PPE Centrifugal filtration system? Thinking about getting one. They have a group buy on another forum for 550 + 20 flat shipping.
PPE link Oil Centrifuge Filtration Kit [1140100] - $869.99 : Pacific Performance Engineering, Innovations in Diesel Performance
PPE link Oil Centrifuge Filtration Kit [1140100] - $869.99 : Pacific Performance Engineering, Innovations in Diesel Performance
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u don't need that really, the stock filter is good enough to filter out the particles big enough to interfere with the oil tolerances in the engine.
filtering impurities that small wont do much but keep it cleaner, but it does no keep the additives in the oil from breaking down any slower. the reason why they have you change the oil at the interval specified is because the additive wear out. not the oil
filtering impurities that small wont do much but keep it cleaner, but it does no keep the additives in the oil from breaking down any slower. the reason why they have you change the oil at the interval specified is because the additive wear out. not the oil
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Ok- just a simple thought:
Why don't you buy this thing direct from the original manufacturer and save a bit money.
The Original producer is Mann+ Hummel.
It was used the first time on the Range Rover Discovery 2.5TD in '93 in Europe with the result to be able to extend the oil drain interval by 100% to 15000km or 9000 miles.
This is one of the secrets of fleet managements to get a million miles out of your engine.It's a common method over here to extend the oil drain interval and to clean the inside of the engine.
Of course there is a disadvantge: You have to have a sufficient oil drain back into the pan with a relative huge diameter( same like the turbo drain back)
Look here:
MANN+HUMMEL UK > Centrifugal Oil Cleaners
This PDF shows clearly it is the same unit, just a different color.
I hope that helps a bit. And it will be cheaper!!!
Why don't you buy this thing direct from the original manufacturer and save a bit money.
The Original producer is Mann+ Hummel.
It was used the first time on the Range Rover Discovery 2.5TD in '93 in Europe with the result to be able to extend the oil drain interval by 100% to 15000km or 9000 miles.
This is one of the secrets of fleet managements to get a million miles out of your engine.It's a common method over here to extend the oil drain interval and to clean the inside of the engine.
Of course there is a disadvantge: You have to have a sufficient oil drain back into the pan with a relative huge diameter( same like the turbo drain back)
Look here:
MANN+HUMMEL UK > Centrifugal Oil Cleaners
This PDF shows clearly it is the same unit, just a different color.
I hope that helps a bit. And it will be cheaper!!!
Last edited by Deezel Stink3r; Feb 16, 2010 at 11:42 AM.
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Simple to explain.
Application depends on engine size, oil capacity and oil pressure( because working oil pressure rotates the centrifugal unit).
If you look at the homepage there is an application sheet to fill out to find the proper size.
Applications?
Nearly every modern german semi has those units to pass emissons Euro 5 status in combination with blue tec.
Because the higher the emissions the higher the highway fee.
Prices? Call 1-800-Prices...
I'm trying to find out, too.
But 860$ is way to much.
Application depends on engine size, oil capacity and oil pressure( because working oil pressure rotates the centrifugal unit).
If you look at the homepage there is an application sheet to fill out to find the proper size.
Applications?
Nearly every modern german semi has those units to pass emissons Euro 5 status in combination with blue tec.
Because the higher the emissions the higher the highway fee.
Prices? Call 1-800-Prices...
I'm trying to find out, too.
But 860$ is way to much.
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PAbiodieselsupply.com is a USA supplier for the Mann centrifuges. they are about 130$ shipped. on a cummins it is very easy to plumb. get oil from ontop of oil filter housing, return oil to forward turbo oil return that is plugged with a freeze plug.
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What do you mean with looks like a waste of money?
The price difference or the unit itself?
these units to filter better and more efficient than a bypass filter setup.
The donly difficulty that I see is the set up itself. The return line must be big enough to provide a straight oil return without kinks and bends- it also must have a certain diameter.
The price difference or the unit itself?
these units to filter better and more efficient than a bypass filter setup.
The donly difficulty that I see is the set up itself. The return line must be big enough to provide a straight oil return without kinks and bends- it also must have a certain diameter.
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I have one from PA bio diesel supply that I plumbed into my system. It seems to work well. You do need a fairly big return line to keep an air volume around the rotor. 3/4" (Just shy of 20mm) copper tubing is about as small as it can handle for good drainage.
My drainage line is not straight and is horizontal for the most part and drains fine. Just needs to be big enough and not create a drain trap.
As far as the additive goes you still need to change the stock oil filter at the normal interval so you add a quart or so of new oil with additive each time. Plus the rotor volume in the centrifuge.
Guys with the TP bypass filters do the same thing.
My drainage line is not straight and is horizontal for the most part and drains fine. Just needs to be big enough and not create a drain trap.
As far as the additive goes you still need to change the stock oil filter at the normal interval so you add a quart or so of new oil with additive each time. Plus the rotor volume in the centrifuge.
Guys with the TP bypass filters do the same thing.
