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BCOWANWHEELS 01-01-2012 05:47 PM

anybody adding trans fluid to diesel
 
I,ve been adding 1 qt of atf to my 30 gal tank ever since ultra low sulfer fuel came out. havent had any problems. anybody elase do it ?
bob

Whit 01-01-2012 07:37 PM

way tooooo many additives like friction modifiers , antifoam and crap like that, not ment to be burnt so it maks an ash deposite that ends up in yer oil.............use 2 stroke oil as its ashless and ment to be burned

ps and tranny fluid is way old school like truckers from the 60's:w2:

BCOWANWHEELS 01-01-2012 08:08 PM

I,am a old owner operator trucker may,1978 till july of 2000.

tiremann9669 01-01-2012 08:13 PM

Some guys claim to run filtered waste atf any wheres from 50/50 mix right up to straight atf. I personally have never tried it. :c:

gunman41mag 01-01-2012 08:28 PM

I wouldn't add ATF to a truck with a DPF:nope:

03Powerstroke 01-01-2012 08:31 PM

how much longer til the deletes gunman??

Seydler3 01-12-2012 10:13 PM

I put it ATF every couple weeks. Seems to work like a charm. Hell some shops fill fuel filters with ATF instead of diesel. Now I don't think I'd run straight ATF though.

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BCOWANWHEELS 01-13-2012 12:55 AM

I RUN 1QT PER MY 35 GAL TANK OF FUEL

06Dodge 01-13-2012 03:27 PM

Never in any HPCR engine.

BCOWANWHEELS 01-13-2012 06:01 PM

ALL MY ENGINES ARNT COMPUTER ENGINES

PSD-BLACK-CLOUD 01-13-2012 06:42 PM

I ran it in my 6.0 alot. But then stoped when I learnd that if you get dipped and its alittle red the troper dosent care if it trans fluid.

tiremann9669 01-13-2012 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by PSD-BLACK-CLOUD (Post 843064)
I ran it in my 6.0 alot. But then stoped when I learnd that if you get dipped and its alittle red the troper dosent care if it trans fluid.

Dosn't matter what the trooper thinks, I guess if you have a good lawyer he's gonna make them prove that it's untaxed fuel before you get convicted and I don't see how they are gonna do that. :c:

Traralgon 01-14-2012 04:20 AM

Works good in nissan 2.5 litre diesel ute. Run it straight or mixed with vegie oil! 10000 miles , no problems!

Dr. Evil 01-16-2012 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Traralgon (Post 843192)
Works good in nissan 2.5 litre diesel ute. Run it straight or mixed with vegie oil! 10000 miles , no problems!

No No No - it doesnt work good. The additives/friction modifiers in this stuff are damaging the very tight tolerances of todays modern injection pumps. It does not matter if its computer controlled or not. Transmission fluid does not belong anywhere in your fuel system. You could get away with this in the 60s when ATF was completely a different formulation...but dont even try to run it now.


Oh and btw did you know that Ford owns Cummins?....:se: :se:

gunman41mag 01-16-2012 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by 03Powerstroke (Post 837599)
how much longer til the deletes gunman??

I lose my factory warranty in 1 year & 9 months:humm:

ERICWAYNE14 02-16-2012 10:29 AM

Ok if you run a h/p fuel system it wont run on a high percentage of trans fluid. My truck will run 100% trans fluid with cetane booster. I run used trans fluid. And if you filter it a couple times enough of the foreign material is taken out. And I know I spelled that wrong. I know guys with 6.0l engines running 50%. If you do it right it doesn't do any harm.

michael30.06 02-19-2012 08:57 PM

When people say it is bad for a "modern engine".
Exactly what or when do you mean.
I run a 1985 4cyl Datsun/Nissan ute on wvo with a little diesel or upto 25% atf.
It is the indirect injection also called a swirl chamber design.
My fuel is heated in the fuel line to whatever temp the engine coolant is running, and I have electric heaters on the injector lines for start up.
But things don't get cold here in North Qld Australia.
At one time I did try the black diesel but I felt that it had too much black smoke, after all none of us want to stick out from the crowd when the cops are doing random traffic stops.

GuyWithA24Valve 02-21-2012 08:38 PM

I would never run ATF in any of my stuff. Never :td:

95towrigdodge 03-10-2012 03:50 PM

so many people doubt all this stuff. if you filter it good it works great. the oil makes the cummins quiet down a bunch. i can prove to anyone it all works just fine. ive mixed about everything and not one problem from anyone of them

torqctd 03-10-2012 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by 95towrigdodge (Post 869830)
so many people doubt all this stuff. if you filter it good it works great. the oil makes the cummins quiet down a bunch. i can prove to anyone it all works just fine. ive mixed about everything and not one problem from anyone of them

That may work OK in your 95, but I would not recommend it in a CR engine.

junkyard 03-21-2012 12:38 PM

What are the benefits of 2 stroke oil?

bftrain 03-21-2012 01:53 PM

increased lubrication for ULSD.

CR are more finicky about fuel and with the price they cost to fix.... An older non CR run what you want. It will probably burn it at least for a little while:tttt:

WVBomber 03-21-2012 02:23 PM

I've added atf and leftover engine oil to my LBZ for 90,000 miles. No harm. I run lucas every tank in my new lml. It looks like engine oil as well.
:tu:

Mdub707 03-21-2012 02:58 PM

What's the purpose of the lucas?

WVBomber 03-21-2012 03:15 PM

Lucas is just to help lube fuel system due to ULSD and seem to give me 1mpg accross the board which exactly offsets the cost. :tu:

Mdub707 03-22-2012 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by WVBomber (Post 874092)
Lucas is just to help lube fuel system due to ULSD and seem to give me 1mpg accross the board which exactly offsets the cost. :tu:

I only ask because independent lubricity tests have shown lucas to do nothing. Interesting how you gained mileage off of it...



As for ATF... I think the big key factor is that you need to run WELL USED ATF. From what I understand, you can't even burn new ATF, so once it's well used up and the friction modifiers are toast, it's safer to burn. This is probably a "watered down" version of what I understand of it, but I haven't exactly done a ton of research on it, at least not as much as WVO.

Now getting back to lubricity, 5% bio diesel is the best. If you're looking for just an additive, Opti-lube was at the top of the list for lubricity with their XPD formula.

WVBomber 03-22-2012 12:43 PM

I don't work in a lab, but I do cover over 50,000 miles a year. My 06 has a zf-6, southbend dual disk, egr is deleted, tuned for mileage.... The proof is in the pudding I guess?? Nothing special about it. Tank to tank I gain +/- 22 miles if I add it.

Mdub707 03-22-2012 12:58 PM

You don't have to work in a lab to read test results FROM a lab. I don't know what truck you're talking about when you refer to your 06 either... your sig says 2011 LML. Your 06 is a Chevy?Ford?...?

How big is your fuel tank? If it works for you, go for it. I can't help but wonder how much better it could be using a product that has scientific results proving it's effectiveness...?

Here's the test, if you care to read. Lucas is one of the few that actually caused lower lubricity than base diesel (base diesel isn't exactly what you get at the pumps, so it might be even worse than this).

Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

:c:

WVBomber 03-26-2012 12:07 PM

As I commented LBZ in my first post the 06 is a duramax as well as my 2011 lml. Could the lucas be raising the btu rating of the fuel thus the mileage increase??:s:

boosthappy 07-29-2012 09:37 PM

If you think about it, used trans fluid burns well but what about all the clutch and other tiny particles from the internals of the trans. i dont see how that could be good, even for an older engine. If you ask me... Heck no trans fluid stays away from my engines!

Super10brss 03-28-2013 01:56 PM

ATF = Jet Fuel

in my book ATF runs MUCH better than WMO... I "blend" fuels... have tried every mixture you could imagine and ATF by far is the best... even when I run real diesel... my 7.3 runs so much better with a qt of ATF or 2 stroke oil :rocking:


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