Off road diesel question
 

Is it true that if you leave off road diesel in the sun for a week or so it will turn lime green like regular diesel??? It's just red cause of the dye??? And is that the only difference???

I know the color is the only difference, but I've never heard of the leaving it in the sun thing :c:

Ok good! Yeah I have a buddy that says he's done it lots of times and it will eventually turn colors to regular looking diesel but has to be in a clear container I'm hoping it does lol cause man that would be awsome!!!! :tu: I'm about to get some with in te next couple days and tryit out

i keep red for my tractors and the dye is there to stay.

Hmmmmm that'd what I thought but maybe like 5 gallon quantities??? He puts them in 5 gallon clear waterjugs hmmmmm

The only difference is the dye.

Re: Off road diesel question
 

Higher Sulfur Content

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It's red so if someone checks your tank, they know it's (off-road) diesel you didn't pay taxes on, which makes it super cheap but illegal to use on the road. At least, that's why around here.

Seems like it would take more than a week if it did change colors.
Our off-road diesel is kept in barrels, a tote, and a tank but they're all out of the sun so not sure but the red might fade off or something.

If it turns lime green its from algea growing in it most likely.Pay the tax and quit trying to beat the system master mind.

off road diesel
 

so the off road diesel is ok to run in my duramax lb7 ???:c:

That is false information.

Only if you stay off our roads.

Ive tried it and after a week the dye is sitting at the bottom of the container and the rest is clear. Around here we get ulsd(15ppm),offroad lsd(500ppm), and some muddy colored stuff which I was told was 1500+ppm which smells bad but runs the best.

IIRC the EPA stated after 10/2010 all diesel made even off road diesel has to be ULSD, so no more LSD unless you got it before they stopped making & selling it.

All ULSD made since 2006 has been ULSD. The ones marked otherwise simply haven't been cleaned and certified for ULSD.

:c: we have a genius on our hands here. i didnt know that all ULSD wasnt ULSD since 2006. lol

oh by they way man you might want to get out a little more because we were getting lsd in 2007 for farm use.

Not in Canada.

Our red diesel smokes like a train!

Lol I ain't trying to beat it I was just curious is all and didn't know lol and great information! I had no idea about all this stuff lol:tu:

Your Wrong. Below " " is from the EPA website on date for mandated use of ULSD and it shows that I was wrong about the date LSD can no longer be sold. The states of Ca required all diesel sold after June 1 2006 to be ULSD. The EPA rules did require that by June 1, 2006, 80 percent of the highway diesel fuel produced or imported had to be ULSD.

"Although ULSD fuel is the dominant highway diesel fuel produced, EPA does not require service stations and truck stops to sell ULSD fuel. Therefore, ULSD fuel might not be available at every service station or truck stop. Diesel retailers may choose to sell Low Sulfur Diesel fuel instead of ULSD fuel until December 1, 2010, when only ULSD fuel will be available for highway use. The industries involved in the transition are doing all they can to minimize potential inconveniences during the conversion to ULSD fuel."

From another website about ULSD:

By December 1, 2010, all highway diesel fuel will be ULSD. Non-road diesel fuel was required to move to 500 ppm sulfur in 2007, and further to ULSD in 2010. Railroad locomotive and marine diesel fuel also moved to 500 ppm sulfur in 2007, and will change to ULSD in 2012. There are exemptions for small refiners of nonroad, locomotive and marine diesel fuel that allow for 500 ppm diesel to remain in the system until 2014. After December 1, 2014 all highway, nonroad, locomotive and marine diesel fuel produced and imported will be ULSD.

haha i just run it red but i stoped for a while cause it was making my truck run like shit

how often have you guys been stoped and had you diesel checked? I knew they could do it but i didnt know they actully did.

ya i've never had my diesel checked and heard they wouldn't stop pick-ups

thats what i have always heard to

i don't know i've heard on hear that some states are. new york isn't but i dont know where to get it. even though i'm switching i have the 85 6.9 and i wanna run red in that

They will stop pickups if they think you have been runningit. And if you have a slip tank in the back, pulling a cattle trailer, or hauling hay. At lest they do in Washington because ive been pulled over and had the ol' tail pipe sniffed so have alot of farmer and ranchers.

its stupid and the fact that theres no high sulfer anymore just sucks for farmers

you can get red from boat docks and some farm stores

i dont see it anywhere. i dont think tractor supply has it. i think they should bring back high sulfur though

Around here the highway patrol is cracking down and pulling over anything diesel powered to check the fuel. They have also gone a step further,on top of dipping your tank they will also pull the fuel filter and get a fuel sample. With the way the economy is going they are trying to get revenue anyway they can.:td:

thats stupid. if they pull you're filter you gotta bleed the lines or on my truck push a pin

Incorrect. You were getting ULSD from equipment not certified for ULSD yet.

Last I checked, Canada didn't have to abide by EPA regulations.

If you intend to be correct, it helps to be correct. Try again.

Precisely why ALL diesel from 2006 was ULSD. Shutting down a refinery for upgrades is extremely expensive, when they did it they did it all at once.

In the last 8 years, 5 times.

Even once can result in a fine that will make all the money you saved stealing from fellow citizens seem like change from your kid's piggy bank.

Wrong, its extremely good for everyone! Sulfur is a huge source of pollution, less pollution from farmers is less pollution on your food.

both of the above qoutes show that you have very little knowledge of the real world around you. First all red diesel in texas till 2007 was lsd.

Second ulsd has been a disater to farmers because most i know are running tractors that are 10-20yrs old and this diesel has caused so many fuel related problems. Also the pollution in your food is not coming from farmers is coming from the need to produce more product on less acres with less input cost to feed and the ingrateful city people by use of chemical fertilizers and other materials

When I've seen em do this, they just open the water drain and get a sample.

They have been pulling people over around home for red questionability for awhile. One of my aunts friends got pulled over and they cut his fuel filter to check. Didnt reimburse him and told him that they can and will test his filter every day on his truck. I believe it was a state officer and the BS of it was he just topped off to go pull a load for a friend. He also got ticketed for incorrect tags on their tanks and probably would have got two more tickets if they would have checked the grain trucks in the barn. I dont disrespect the law but when they kick farmers for running red its a bunch of crap. Now if someone who is not a farmer used it I believe it is completely different. Maybe thats just because I live in the midwest and everyone farms except in the cities.

I also dont know if this cop had previous conflicts with the farmer or not. Even then there is no reason to be a complete jerk about ticketing them. That is just another reason I dont like cops. Sorry rant over.

That is my problem with it. and i know many farmers who can not afford to buy new tractors or have theirs rebuilt. ULSD has cost them a lot of money and we shouldn't be hurting the people who grow that food we eat. if they wanna hurt somebody they should hurt all the chinese manufacturers not American farmers. that is why i believe our government blows

All this ULSD stuff was all the excuse I needed to get off my lazy behind and start filtering my waste oil to run in the tractors. I'm up to 1.5 gal of waste oil to every 10 gal of diesel and so far no problems or noticeable drop in power.

I got my tank dipped 10 years ago in Rochester NY driving a 1 ton tire service truck, so it does and has happened here for quite some time. :c:

the heat was on in Northern MN this last summer. cops where stopping every diesel vehicle on the road and sticking tanks. they where doing this in a town where about half the population is in the logging business.

Yeah I have never seen or heard of anyone getting stopped yet and sorry guys een gone for work for a long time