SeaFoam
 

Anyone ever use it?
What did you think about it?

:booo: :booo: never tried it in a diesel but i've seen that crap mess up injectors, o2's and other things with a gas motor. some guys say it works great for diesels but i'm leery.

How did it mess up the injectors? Its supposed to clean them real good.
I bought some this morning....tell me good things.:sorry:

I used it on my gasser and was really happy with the results. My truck idled better and has a little more pep.

well i don't remember the exact specifics of the failure but some of the injectors were GM Multitechs and others were the poppet valve style. i know they're both a lil sensitive to clogging as it is and maybe it's just the combo of seafoam and these injectors that's not good. IIRC, and i'm not positive that i do, they were hanging open or were stuck open after using seafoam. like i said, some guys swear by using seafoam in they're diesels. i just won't without some hard proof because i've seen what it does to gas engines. that's all.

Thanks guys... anyone else?

ive used it, filled the fuel filter with it when i put it back on, seemed to clean everything out real well

Kool, you notice better performance or what? How could you tell it worked?

anyone else use it?

seemed to have a little more pep and ran smoother

Clay, I have seen lots of reasons not to use it. Let me do some searching for ya and I will find the results as to what actually is up with that stuff. There were actually a lot of really good reasons not to put it in your truck. Just bear with me a little.

Here ya go bud. These are posts that I found on the issue.


From: DBLR
Have you not read where it is not advised to use any fuel additive that has alcohol in it unless you are using it to de-gel your fuel? Yes it may clean up your injectors and clean some carbon but it is not good for your fuel system and can even hurt it. To sum it up I’ll copy what DD had to say in another post about it “Fact is that alcohol kills lubricity, and that is the last fuel additive that should be used on a diesel.”

Next 2 quotes are from: DULUTH DIESEL
Alcohol kills lubricity. Every major additive manufacturer, including the stuff that Cummins puts their endorsement on, know that alcohol is a bad deal for diesels. You are not doing your engine any favors using SeaFoam. There are better diesel fuel additives that do not use alcohol.


To be fair, SeaFoam itself isn't a bad product. While it is widely known that alcohol has no place in a diesel fuel due to lubricity issues, I have used SeaFoam in gasoline engines, especially small engines, and have had good results. The only issue with SeaFoam in a diesel application is the fact that there is alcohol in it.

Hmmmm..... this isn't just a fuel additive, in fact its not really and "additive" at all persay. Its a one shot cleaner for both the fuel and crank case oil. You don't put it in your tank, you add it to the fuel system at the nearest point you can to the injectors and you use half a pint, one time, let it burn off and your done. No lubrication issues at all. Then you add 1.5 pints to a 15 quart crank case, run it 10 minutes and change the oil.
What you posted sound more like a different product is being described. Am i wrong?
I havn't read the ingrediants so i did not know if it was alcohol or what, i'll have to look.

i beleive your right CHenry, its not so much an additive as a cleaner, you put it in the filter run it for a minute and its gone, just a quick cleaner, after thats gone your back to diesel, i cannot see where that could hurt anything, the truck runs fine off of it, it may contain alcohol just by the way that it smells but i dont think that it would hurt the truck at all

Heres another dumb question, it says to add it to the fuel while its running... i don't think removing the filter top while its running would work out to well. So how do i go about that?

I bet the running thing is when adding to the egr. I used in in my gasser and Chevron makes a much better injector cleaner. IMO I wouldn't use it in my truck.

I have run it in Diesel Tractors, my truck, cars, chainsaws, weedeater and about everything else I have with motors on it and have always had positive results. In all the gas stuff I feed it in through a vaccuum line while it's runnin and in the diesels i fill the fuel cannister when I'm changin the fuel filter. If you were runnin it through full tanks of fuel I could see it being a problem with lube, but I think PS and most other things sold as lube are to. Filling the filter with it means that within a minute or two it is gone and burnt up. and lube is back to the pump before it has a chance to get hot or create problems.

I have run it through the oil, but never really noticed any differences being made in that area. But it deffinately does help if you fuel system is gunked up.

While no experice with it in diesels, like others I have good results in small engines.

I have one friend that swears by it for the summerizing of his sleds instead of stabil. His carbs are spotless after sitting all spring/summer/fall.

Well i used it and the truck seems to run a little smoother...seems fuel milage is reading higher by 1 or 1.5 mpg...thats from the computer readout which according to past calculations is within 1 mpg of being accurate.

Alcohol is real tough on the lubricity of diesel fuel. I advise against using it, especially with newer sensitive (non oil lubricated) injector pumps. Sea Foam is great in gasoline engines, and I've used it extensively in the past. But I won't dump it in a diesel, and certainly not with my VP44. Power Service, AMSOIL, Howes, Schaffers, and the majority of true diesel fuel manufacturers do not use alcohol and strongly advise against it in diesel fuel systems. There are ways to treat, stabilize, anti-gel, and add detergency to your fuel without Alcohol. I don't care what the SeaFoam bottle says about being fine for diesel use.

-Chuck

I have a Ford, i dont' have an IP. I still think the short time its in there it can't hurt anything because of the non lubricating properties it has, it burns through from a concentrated amount in the filter canister and is gone in minutes.

I don't remember the rest of the the brands ingredients, PS is almost completely paint thinnner they just list it as Namptha. So ya techincally it's not alcohol but just as drying and it runs through the system during the entire tank load.

I had the kid run the Sea Foam idea by his instructors at his Automotive diesel school and they are the ones that suggested filling the cannister with it and not running it in the tank of fuel or even using a vaccum line. Most of them are past technical reps for the different engine makers all with many decades in the diesel industry. I was pretty skeptical about it until then also. They deffinatley don't reccommend using most of these common truck stop additives in the fuel tank.

I use it in my pontoon's outboard every year, but I wait and see what the vote is on using it in the Cummins

same here..... i've done it a few times.... it stinks like hell when it is burning but clears up after a few minutes........ seems to run a little smoother for me too......

You got to remember...

I don't care if the tech or not... But the simple truth is like Duluth Diesel said... Seafoam is a alcohol base cleaner if you run that alone through you fuel system you are stripping all lubricant from the part inside you VP44 and injectors... Just like if you dumped your crankcase and put 11 quarts of seafoam through it and ran it. How long do you expect the bearing in the engine, IP, LP, injectors to hold up at that abuse??? Remember the fuel system on a Cummins is lubricated by the fuel. (Note!).

I figure someone will be changing out a VP44 pump soon and it won't be me...:w2:

NOTE! - Except the P7100 pumps which are lubed by engine oil. All other are lubed by the fuel.

There's the expert, I was wondering when you would step in, and gentlemen I have read so much info put together by Mopar1973Man it makes my head hurt, He knows what he's talking about, alot of research behind his posts, not just jiberish like me:sorry: Thanks again Mike

This will be my last public post in concerns to 2 cycle oil. Once again someone ruined it for everyone else. They started contacting Gov't agencies and big companies. I don't need to be threaten and/or sued by either one.

so As of tonight I've delete my entire web site including my 2 cycle oil information. I will no longer PUBLICLY discuss the use of 2 cycle oil usage in diesels.

As for all my friends out there PM me I will continue the discussion in private email. :U:

As for the people that ruined for everyone else... I've got nothing to lose because I will continue to research the theory even more. But you'll never have the knowledge I do...:fu: :dd:

Mike, I'd be the first guy to agree with you and your research on this. But we are not suggesting to drain your fuel tank and fill it with Sea Foam and not even mixing it in with fuel and running it through the tank. Were talkin about one pint or quart can, can't remember which it is, of the stuff that will be completely run through and out of the system within seconds and then fuel with it's included lubricicity following right behind it. Being alcohol based I'm not even worried about any making it through the return lines and back to the tank. It would evaporate on contact with the heat and thus why you get the cloud of smoke rolling out of the tailpipe even at an idle.

My son used it to clean out his 86 Ranger through the manifold. It looked like he was in the skeeter abatement business with all of the blue smoke. It did clean out all of the gunk that was in there

Here we go...

Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place

For you guys that like Power Service, AMSOil, Marvel Mystery Oil, and Lucas you might want to read this!
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/im...ilies/thud.gif

2 Cycle is still a cheap and very good lubricant additive!

Based on that test, and showing that AMSOIL did very well, actually very close to 2 stroke, I feel that using the name AMSOIL in your post makes readers who don't take the time to read the study get the indication that AMSOIL did poorly, when in fact they did quite well considering it is a multi-purpose diesel fuel additive. It did far better than Power Service.

-Chuck

I have used that stuff maybe a total of 5 times in my diesel,but only when it would idle rough. This stuff would make it idle smother and quieter. I would dump a small can in with about 1/2 tank of fuel and run it. It makes sense after reading all of the post on this tread as to why it worked so well as a cleaner. The stuff definately cleans. As to the lubricty of it, I'm kinda glad I haven't used it anymore than I have.

I know it works great as a gasoline stabilizer and system cleaner. I have had gas engines that wouldn't run for crap, add a decent amount of Seafoam, run great. I have also had Seafoam return no results on engines. I add it to all my gas cans so all my small engines get a little in every fill, it stabilizes better than Sta-Bil, IMO, and keeps the system clean. I have had engines literaly not run after a winter with Sta-Bil, but never with Seafoam. Now Seafoam in a diesel, I would never, though it appears that running Power Service isn't that great either, according to test results. JMHO.

well you fill the fuel filter with it when you put a new filter on, you dont put it in the tank as you do powerservice, so you just get a quick shot of seafoam through your fuel system

i use seafoam alot, IF YOU USE IT AS A FUEL ADDITIVE YOU ARE AN :edit: , THAT IS NOT WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO, it is supposed to be used as a cleaner, i have dumped it in the oil and in the fuel of lots of vehicles, it has never messed anything up ive owned, if you dump it into your truck every time you fill up, well then you deserve a dead injection pump.....you put it in the oil and run it for a few minutes and it cleans your crankcase, you put it in your gas tank and let it idle til it runs out of fuel and refill with fresh fuel, anytime i use it i change the filter, no matter how old it is......the explorer i just sold ran 10X's better than it ever did..

I tried it one time. It tasted really funny and after the third drink I just couldnt take anymore. :lol:

I had to register to comment on this misinformation. You should at least figure out what is in seafoam before you talk about what it does. Seafoam is 100% petroleum. There is no alcohol whatsoever in seafoam. Seafoam increases lubrication. This is not up for debate, it is scienitific fact.

The quotes from below are from other misinformed people.

Seafoam is 100% petroleum. Not rumor, FACT. It doesnt have single drop of alcohol in it.


Thanks, Travis Tate
Land Rover Master Mechanic

If it is 100% pure petroleum -who pays 6.99$ for a small can of Seafoam?:humm:

Really sad to hear this! I can tell you:

You are on the right way. A lot of diesel drivers in europe( nearly every second car is a diesel in germany) uses 2 stroke oil on a daily basis.
I wasn't sure about this hype and I found confirmation here as in many other europian sites.

Even the german military uses 2 stroke oil in their trucks - have you ever heard about a goverment sueing another one?

So no worry to get sued- they have to sue a lot more people all over the world!

A 2-stroke oil user!:tu:

Nobody does after they read this post. https://www.dieselbombers.com/altern...w-seafoam.html

It may no longer contain it but at one time Sea Foam did have Alcohol in it and stated so on the can.