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MMStar923 08-18-2008 12:47 PM

Waste Vegetable Oil
 
well i hear the heardest part of the process is finding the oil. i pretty much hit gold there, found a restauraunt that puts out around 200 gallons of it a week.

so my questions begin. how/what kind of pump would i use to suck it out of their tank into one of my containers. i was thinking about a 55 gallon drum or something. where would i find one?

next can someone explain to me in pretty good detail how i go about filtering it and what exactly i need.

can i just pour the filtered vegetable oil in my tank, or does it have to be mixed with regular diesel? can i run this in my 05' 6.0 powerstroke? and can i run it in my 06 5.9 cummins?

thanks a lot in advance!!

-mike

2500HeavyDuty 08-18-2008 01:08 PM

look up the apple seed set up, that should help you out

MMStar923 08-18-2008 02:16 PM

apple seed setup huh? i was just on youtube looking at filtering setups

will it be ok in the CTD and powerstroke?

solarwarp 08-18-2008 02:38 PM

I have heard of people that just mix filtered WVO into their fuel tank ... as long as it's hot (as in 100+ degrees) you are probably ok. Otherwise, careful with how it might gel up.

Others have separate tanks (1 for diesel and 1 for waste vege oil) and heaters for the oil tank ... They start on diesel when everything is all warmed up, switch to WVO.

Then others convert it to bio-diesel before burning it. (Hence the Appleseed kit.)

The trend I am hearing is that restaurants are beginning to rent their french fry oil ... so, abundant and free sources are drying up quickly.

MMStar923 08-18-2008 03:26 PM

im in south florida, and right now i dont think temperature is much of a problem. but ill have to look into what you said.

what exactly do you mean by :":rent:":?

solarwarp 08-18-2008 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by MMStar923 (Post 196275)
im in south florida, and right now i dont think temperature is much of a problem. but ill have to look into what you said.

what exactly do you mean by :":rent:":?

In the past there wasn't any demand for waste vege oil, so restaurants had to pay to have it hauled off. Now, though since there is a demand for waste vege oil, some companies enter into contracts with the restaurants to buy up used oil.

Some enterprising vendors that sell new oil, also as part of their service collect the used oil and the used oil belongs to the vendor not the restaurant.

If you have found a source for grease, just make sure no one else has a claim to it as well... otherwise we'll be reading the headlines about you being arrested and labeled as the "Crisco Bandit"... :jail: (Which, btw, isn't a term of endearment in jail...)

CHenry 08-18-2008 04:18 PM

You must have a two tank conversion to properly run it. DONT put it in your main tank. There are several reasons why but a long story short it will kill your motor, right after you have replaced the lift pump about 4 times.
Read here.

MMStar923 08-19-2008 10:48 PM

so i need to get another tank just for the WVO? and put where my spare would go?

jdugie123 08-20-2008 08:27 AM

you could do that or if you don't mind you can put it in the bed that is where i have seen most for trucks there are kits out there for your truck or you can build your own kit it really isn't that hard to do but it is just time consuming to build because it is just like everything else you may not get everything and find that out when you start to work on it and are half way thru. so really a kit is the way to go look up frybrid and greasecar they are very well made kits

MotorOilMcCall 08-20-2008 03:08 PM

Alright, first off... DON"T RUN IT IN THE POWERJOKE. PERIOD! Those things a finicky enough with regular old petro-diesel. If you like your Ford, leave it running on crude.

In the Dodge, you have a few options.

1. Convert your WVO to Bio-diesel. This is the best option if you don't do long highway runs, or if you commute to work everyday with this truck. It will burn fine all the time, no matter the weather (as long as you don't come North in the Winter). Its cheap at about $1 per gallon (less if you know how to do it well), but you have to invest in a processor, and depending on how much time and money you invest in your processor, you may be spending a lot, or a little, time in the garage processing old oil. The more you invest, the less time you'll need to spend babysitting.

2. Run a 2 tank SVO/WVO system. These systems have been around a long time, and they work pretty well, but they have some big downfalls. First, the engine must be up to temp before you can start burning oil, and to get the engine up to temp, you have to get the oil up to temp since its heated with coolant. This means for commuting, it will take you 10 miles before you can start burning WVO, that would give me a mile or 2 of WVO fueling before I got to work. The other drawback, is that you have to purge the system before you shut the truck off, which means switching back to crude for 3-5 minutes before shutting off. Now, these systems are like bio-diesel processors in the sense that, the more you invest in the system, the less time and worrying you'll have to do running the truck. Some systems are completely automatic, they'll measure temperatures, switch to veg, then when you turn the key off they will run the engine for another 3-5 minutes on crude, then shut off. If you do a lot of highway hauling, this is the way to go, because you can run a 100 or 105 gallon transfer tank on veg.

The Ford will tolerate HIGH quality Bio-Diesel, but I surely would NEVER run it on WVO. I make cattle feed for a living, SVO is a by-product, I make Bio to run our company trucks on, and I have converted a 350HP Steiger 4wd Tractor to run on WVO... If I could do it all over again, I never would have bothered converting the tractor, I'd just pour Bio-Diesel in the main tank and go, just like I do with all the other tractors on the farm.


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