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NeedinMoPWR 06-26-2012 01:43 PM

cummins swap, NEED advice
 
So im getting a 12 valve next week, and am getting everything ready for this winter to do the swap. I was thinking about using the dodge transmission, and i was wondering if anyone has used it, and where or how they made the mounts for the trans if they did. Would this work using the Dodge transfer case with out having to get a dodge front axle (because i want to keep my truck 4x4) for the drive line to match up. Also since I'm doing all this myself I was wondering If there are any tricks, hints, and "easier" way to do some things.

articfox 06-26-2012 08:07 PM

heres some transfer plates for sale good luck i thought about doing it but i dont have the money to do it

not sure if this is what your looking for but only thing i could find right now ill see if i can find you more conversion parts

Transmission - Cummins Conversion Parts

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FordCummins.com: '99+ Ford SuperDuty Overview heres some whole kits for sale

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http://www.destroked.com/

NeedinMoPWR 06-27-2012 01:16 PM

Thanks, but I know about the flex-plate adapters and motor mounts. I was more wondering on where I could find some dodge transmission mounts to adapt on my frame. If I have to fab them up, if so where I could find the specs to do so. Also where or if anyone knows how to spline the dodge transmission into the ford t-case so I can use my 4x4 without putting a dodge front end in. My last question is about the power steering, A/C, and heater and what all has to be done for retro fit those. I couldnt find a manual on how to do this, If anyone knows I would appreciate it very much.

fordornothing 06-27-2012 05:25 PM

take your drive shaft to a shop. have them mix match the ends...

NeedinMoPWR 06-27-2012 06:06 PM

Thanks, Now I still need to figure out the mounts for the 47RE, and the other stuff I mentioned. Well the project wont be underway till this winter, but I'd like to get everything ready to where its just a "drop-in" :ha: application and not have to find more parts or run into any snags.

fordornothing 06-27-2012 07:15 PM

you will probably have to fab up the mounts. but i think that will be a play as you go type thing. you might be able to get all the mounts from destroke but then the engine will be where they want it to be. just start calling differnt companies.

NeedinMoPWR 06-27-2012 09:21 PM

I called destroked and they said they only do ford transmissions... "NEVER" have done one with a dodge trans. I also talked to a desk jokey. I'll have to look around more and believe me I have been. It really looks like I have to fab em myself, oh well, but any ideas on the rest of the stuff?

NeedinMoPWR 07-02-2012 11:33 PM

decided im going to fork up the money and get a 06-07 cummins motor with the auto trans because of efi live. unless i can get a release date sooner, thats what im doing!!! its my baby and rather than buying a new truck im going to build what i want ... dash is all gettting new fiber glass with auto-meter gauges doing everything custom. yeah its going to cost money but still less than a new truck!!! anyone done a newer swap like this please let me know!!

INFRNL 07-08-2012 11:49 AM

I am sure you are aware of this but Ford uses a reverse rotation front axle where everyone else uses standard rotation. This means if even possible, if you choose to use the dodge tcase; it will have to be fully rotated.
If you use the Ford tcase, you'll need to find or make an adapter to mate to the dodge tranny.

I have a die hard cummins buddy, he claims it would only cost 8k or so to drop a cummins in, but I think that is just motor using ford drive train.

Good luck with your swap. I thought about doing it at one time but decided against it.

NeedinMoPWR 07-10-2012 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by INFRNL (Post 913266)
I am sure you are aware of this but Ford uses a reverse rotation front axle where everyone else uses standard rotation. This means if even possible, if you choose to use the dodge tcase; it will have to be fully rotated.
If you use the Ford tcase, you'll need to find or make an adapter to mate to the dodge tranny.

I have a die hard cummins buddy, he claims it would only cost 8k or so to drop a cummins in, but I think that is just motor using ford drive train.

Good luck with your swap. I thought about doing it at one time but decided against it.

That's why I asked in my previous statement where/how do i mate the dodge transmission out-put shaft to the ford t-case. I am well aware of this. The adapter I also covered, If your read my last 2 posts I am more concerned with the hook-ups such as: ac/heater, power steering, new drive-line lengths ect... gauges I am not worried about because I will be running autometer in place of stock gauges..

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And $8k is NO WHERE near the money I need to make this happen. I can get a complete 12 valve delivered to my doorstep for $1500, flex plate adaptor $800, new drive lines $500 +/- $100-$200. Motor mounts $600, moving the trans back free (welder and some extra steel). Thats at $3,400 give or take a few hundred bucks. My 7.3L only has 162,*** miles on her and runs like a champ, worth at least $1,000. which brings me down to around $2,400. Now around $1,500-$2000 for miscellaneous stuff as perviously mentioned (ac/heater, ect, ect) I'm looking at under $5k. All the work will be done by myself and a few buddies. Plus I have free access to a wrecked 03 with motor and trans and all, might go that route. If not I can steal parts from it.


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