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PowerstrokinDually 07-13-2011 09:27 AM

how can i get some power out of my 7.3?
 
i have a 96 f350 dually thats straight piped and has a chip. what can i do for cheap to make more power and get some black smoke? i have tried the 10k resistor and it does absolutly nothing, but i can put a 1.5k resistor in and it will have the lope but no smoke. i know smoke is unburnt fuel but its something i want what can i do to help it? i have a t.t.s chip in the computer and its straight piped like i mentioned

joebob3093 07-13-2011 01:43 PM

Re: how can i get some power out of my 7.3?
 
There is nothing you can do to it for cheap.

95powersmoker 07-13-2011 06:27 PM

Welcome to Diesel Bombers...

Joebob is right, cheap and diesel are not meant to be in the same sentence...

The next step would be injectors. The stock injectors are just too limiting on a stock truck... You also need to get an EGT gauge to keep an eye on temps...

joebob3093 07-13-2011 06:53 PM

Re: how can i get some power out of my 7.3?
 
Well if he is one of those guys who blow smoke everywhere I hope he blows it up.

PowerstrokinDually 07-14-2011 12:04 AM

whats so bad about blowin black smoke? who cares if its unburnt fuel? everyone likes there truck set up to there likin not everyone else's. everyone hates on that but if you look at the baddest diesels like the 1500hp pullin trucks that have 150psi of boost they roal coal and make stupid amounts of power. when i said cheap i was talkin about under the $700 range or around it. is a dp tuner or tony wildman better for the 7.3?

prison 07-14-2011 12:37 AM

:argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh: right. just build one of those trucks then. theres your answer. and at 1500 hp and 150 psi of boost you'll have like $1.5 million in it.

joebob3093 07-14-2011 12:43 AM

Re: how can i get some power out of my 7.3?
 
Do you have any concept of off road use only? Yes they look badass but not on the street. Its pecker heads like you who are getting things like DPFs and urea injection mandatory on diesel engines.

prison 07-14-2011 02:08 AM

im against it for off road use. if you have any build knowledge and tuning skill you should be able to take the computer controlled engines and make them smoke free or just very slightly where you almost cant see it. i've seen it done in commonrails, 7.3's, 6.0s, 6.4's, all of them. now that is knowledge and skill

85_305 07-14-2011 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by PowerstrokinDually (Post 773684)
everyone hates on that but if you look at the baddest diesels like the 1500hp pullin trucks that have 150psi of boost they roal coal and make stupid amounts of power.

I think you just answered your own question; those are bad diesels. They have 1500hp not 215. Throw some power at it and smoke will come. I recommend stage I's, or stage II's and a turbo.

PowerstrokinDually 07-14-2011 12:43 PM

yea well yall are some serious idiots! black smoke DOES NOT hurt the environment, its heavier than air so it falls back down aka soot! if yall are worried bout gettin little black specks on you then go buy a prius. i know people with 900hp and 1700tq and thats there daily driver. diesels are made for country boys i guess because it seems yall are to much of a pretty boy or tree hugger. who gives a damn if it smokes? thats when people ride your tail you smoke em out or smokin out peds in town. seriously the guys on here that are against smokin, go buy a prius

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its pecker heads like you gettin electric cars popular. wooooo go green, fags! ever heard of a dpf delete DA? you think of diesels and you think of black smoke and torque. haha yall crack me up thinkin diesels should be "smoke-free", haha smoke free diesel is a stock diesel. yall would hate to come out to my neck of the woods

joebob3093 07-14-2011 01:46 PM

Re: how can i get some power out of my 7.3?
 
Ever heard of a $10,000 fine for a dpf delete? I am far from a pretty boy and tree hugger but I know how to use my head. Its people like you who have got all the real tree huggers scared of diesel and now we have things like egr, dpf and urea. Thank you

prison 07-14-2011 02:27 PM

because i dont feel the need to be obnoxious all the time. i'm fully aware of the environmental effects. i dont like a ton of black smoke for the same reason i dont like 25 inch chrome rims. i think it looks gay. and diesels are not made for country boys. diesels are made for towing/hauling and being reliable, strong, durable, powerful and just to get the job done. not for people like you to go ooooooo look at my smoke. i'm done here. you're a waste of my time. go buy a civic.

85_305 07-14-2011 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by PowerstrokinDually (Post 773824)
yea well yall are some serious idiots! black smoke DOES NOT hurt the environment, its heavier than air so it falls back down aka soot! if yall are worried bout gettin little black specks on you then go buy a prius. i know people with 900hp and 1700tq and thats there daily driver. diesels are made for country boys i guess because it seems yall are to much of a pretty boy or tree hugger. who gives a damn if it smokes? thats when people ride your tail you smoke em out or smokin out peds in town. seriously the guys on here that are against smokin, go buy a prius

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its pecker heads like you gettin electric cars popular. wooooo go green, fags! ever heard of a dpf delete DA? you think of diesels and you think of black smoke and torque. haha yall crack me up thinkin diesels should be "smoke-free", haha smoke free diesel is a stock diesel. yall would hate to come out to my neck of the woods

Well first I'd just like to add that I dont foresee you staying around here long... there are some EXTREMELY knowledgeable people on this forum, of which you have already insulted, and I dont foresee your poor demeanor surviving long here.

Nobody said ANYTHING about smoke being bad for the environment. A 215hp truck that smokes like a freight train is embarrassing, not cool. Put some power under the hood then worry about some smoke. Hell my Volkswagen smokes like a freight train when I'm getting on it.. but it's also pushing some power.

joebob3093 07-14-2011 02:59 PM

Re: how can i get some power out of my 7.3?
 
But a true north Carolina country boy would never drive a civic.

PowerstrokinDually 07-14-2011 10:13 PM

a dpf delete is not a fine . diesels have no emissions laws in nc so i aint got nothin to worry about

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yall are extremely stupid. smokin is not embarrassing on a stock truck, now roalin smoke like the built trucks wouldnt look right but havin it puff a steady stream aint bad at all. hahaha a vw tdi? wow dude thats gayer than a civic. seriously whose gonna say man im gonna build my vw? :jump:

joebob3093 07-14-2011 11:10 PM

Re: how can i get some power out of my 7.3?
 
You should research before you come on here. There my not be testing in your state but emissions systems are federally mandated so yes you can get a fine.

CSIPSD 07-14-2011 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by PowerstrokinDually (Post 774106)
a dpf delete is not a fine dumbass. diesels have no emissions laws in nc so i aint got nothin to worry about

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yall are extremely stupid. smokin is not embarrassing on a stock truck, now roalin smoke like the built trucks wouldnt look right but havin it puff a steady stream aint bad at all. hahaha a vw tdi? wow dude thats gayer than a civic. seriously whose gonna say man im gonna build my vw? :jump:

Relax... You hit a very key word for some people in the performance Diesel world.

You need to do a little reading on your "opinion" of diesel smoke...

Safety and Health Topics: Diesel Exhaust

Diesel Exhaust does not fall to the ground as you seem to think.

Smoke has taken us from the 7.3, to the 6.0 to the 6.4 with DPF and a 65k price tag...

Stick around, read some and understand that no one, from the prius driver to the F-350 driver wants to smoke anymore... Here is a little letter from Edge that just came out...


Edge Products and Superchips have been, and continue to be, proud supporters of competitive diesel motorsports across the United States and Canada. We proudly support and sponsor organizations such as NHRDA and NADM that promote legal racing and diesel competition in cities and towns all across North America. Despite our continued support of diesel motorsports, we have made the strategic decision to discontinue our Edge Racing and Superchips Racing products effective immediately. We will not accept new orders for Edge and Superchips Racing products as of July 12, 2011.

Edge Products and Superchips will no longer offer for sale Edge Racing and Superchips Racing-branded diesel, tuning products in the United States. Unfortunately, we believe a portion of dealers and consumers are exploiting the intended use of these products which has a negative impact on the future of this industry.

Prior to launching the Edge Racing and Superchips Racing brands, we undertook numerous preventive measures to ensure all dealers and consumers clearly understood the intended use of these products. In spite of our best efforts, we have concluded that these policies are not adequate to assure abuse is prevented. We have performed an exhaustive review of these measures, including numerous conversations with regulatory agencies such as EPA and CARB, in order to try to devise an effective way whereby we can assure ‘Racing’ products are used as intended. Based on our review, at this time, we do not believe there are adequate prevention measures available to the industry which provide those assurances.

We strongly encourage, for the long-term health of our industry, that all distributors, dealers and consumers of these or similar products made by other companies cease selling any electronic tuning product that contains the ability to disable any emissions system for late-model diesel trucks including (but not limited to) the DPF system, EGR system and Urea (exhaust fluid) injection. Per federal and state regulations, any registered vehicle is required to maintain its emissions systems unless it is used strictly and solely for racing. Unfortunately, even with the exhaustive, preventive measures we have taken, we do not feel it is possible to completely prevent abuse.

We have strong reason to believe all companies that continue to engage in the business of manufacturing, distributing, or selling these kinds of products in the United States will be subject to enforcement action from both the United States EPA and the California Air Resources Board. In the future, if we are able to devise a way to prevent abuse, we hope to re-establish the Edge Racing and Superchips Racing brands.

Below is a list/table that constitutes all Edge and Superchips Racing part numbers that will be immediately discontinued. The table below also identifies the appropriate street-legal replacement part number for the same application. All listed replacement parts can be found on the CARB Products in Progress list and either have been or will be tested for legal street use in the United States. If you have any questions, or would like to discuss this matter further, please do not hesitate to contact us. Our contact information is included below for your convenience.

CSIPSD 07-14-2011 11:28 PM

Your also incorrect on the laws of North Carolina...

Frequently asked questions about the NC Emissions Inspection Program (Chatham Journal)

ford7.3 07-14-2011 11:43 PM

Dually you are sure in for a surprise when you leave the double wide, smoke is for racing and competing.. driving around town is not a competition for who has the most smoke, its for who has a nicer truck right??? so why waste your time trying to blow smoke and agrivate people around you just so you can try and look cool... its people like you who are giving the ENTIRE diesel community a bad name.. you need to take a look around and see what you are doing then come back to use and ask the right questions..

prison 07-15-2011 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by CSIPSD (Post 774135)
Relax... You hit a very key word for some people in the performance Diesel world.

You need to do a little reading on your "opinion" of diesel smoke...

Safety and Health Topics: Diesel Exhaust

Diesel Exhaust does not fall to the ground as you seem to think.

Smoke has taken us from the 7.3, to the 6.0 to the 6.4 with DPF and a 65k price tag...

Stick around, read some and understand that no one, from the prius driver to the F-350 driver wants to smoke anymore... Here is a little letter from Edge that just came out...

wow csi thanks for that info. i can't believe they took the moral high ground over money. i would definitely support edge products now. that is what the industry needs to hear!

85_305 07-15-2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by PowerstrokinDually (Post 774106)
a dpf delete is not a fine. diesels have no emissions laws in nc so i aint got nothin to worry about

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yall are extremely stupid. smokin is not embarrassing on a stock truck, now roalin smoke like the built trucks wouldnt look right but havin it puff a steady stream aint bad at all. hahaha a vw tdi? wow dude thats gayer than a civic. seriously whose gonna say man im gonna build my vw? :jump:

Yes... a Volkswagen that will smoke 95% of the average cars on the road while getting 63mpg and holding 4 people comfortably, while having the ability to tow motorcycles, logs, 4wheelers, small campers etc, is gay. Get a life.



Originally Posted by prison (Post 774163)
wow csi thanks for that info. i can't believe they took the moral high ground over money. i would definitely support edge products now. that is what the industry needs to hear!

I think it's just a cover up for them being junk products.

joebob3093 07-15-2011 11:59 AM

Re: how can i get some power out of my 7.3?
 
Edge makes some good products for the duramax and cummins. So I would say they are junk products. I used to run an edge evolution on mine and I was very happy with it for what it was.

CSIPSD 07-15-2011 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by 85_305 (Post 774276)
Yes... a Volkswagen that will smoke 95% of the average cars on the road while getting 63mpg and holding 4 people comfortably, while having the ability to tow motorcycles, logs, 4wheelers, small campers etc, is gay. Get a life.




I think it's just a cover up for them being junk products.


Edge and Superchips both make very good products, for all brands, but they are more geared to the 6.4 and up Fords, 5.9 Cummins and 6.6 Duramax.

It has nothing to do with "junk" products and everything to do with people deleting the DPF's and then running them on the street.

99_stroke 12-31-2011 12:05 AM

here you go...
 
North Carolina General Statutes § 20-128.1 Control of visible emissions

a) It shall be a violation of this Article:

(1) For any gasoline‑powered motor vehicle registered and operated in this State
to emit visible air contaminants under any mode of operation for longer than five
consecutive seconds.

(2) For any diesel‑powered motor vehicle registered and operated in this State to
emit for longer than five consecutive seconds under any mode of operation visible
air contaminants which are equal to or darker than the shade or density designated
as No. 1 on the Ringelmann Chart or are equal to or darker than a shade or density
of twenty percent (20%) opacity.

(b) Any person charged with a violation of this section shall be allowed 30 days within
which to make the necessary repairs or modification to bring the motor vehicle into
conformity with the standards of this section and to have the motor vehicle inspected
and approved by the agency issuing the notice of violation. Any person who, within 30
days of receipt of a notice of violation, and prior to inspection and approval by the
agency issuing the notice, receives additional notice or notices of violation,
may exhibit a certificate of inspection and approval from the agency issuing the first
notice in lieu of inspection and approval by the agencies issuing the subsequent notices.


(c) The provisions of this section shall be enforceable by all persons designated
in G.S. 20‑49; by all law‑enforcement officers of this State within their respective
jurisdictions; by the personnel of local air pollution control agencies within their
respective jurisdictions; and by personnel of State air pollution control agencies
throughout the State.

(d) Any person who fails to comply with the provisions of this section shall
be subject to the penalties provided in G.S. 20‑176. (1971, c. 1167, s. 10.)

JUSTIN_MOORE 01-25-2012 12:11 PM

powerstrokendually, you have no idea what your talking about. Your sister/wife might think its cool but no one else does.

on a side note i think the dpf is a waste of money, theres 800 hp trucks running with very little smoke. i think the big 3 could tune the trucks to make no smoke and get better fuel mileage without the dpf which robs mpgs anyway
just my .02 cents

swiernusz 04-29-2012 10:36 PM

to answer your question and get some smoke/ power, get a 6pos. ts chip built by tony wildman. also get some guages.

mysterync 04-29-2012 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by PowerstrokinDually (Post 774106)
a dpf delete is not a fine . diesels have no emissions laws in nc so i aint got nothin to worry about

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yall are extremely stupid. smokin is not embarrassing on a stock truck, now roalin smoke like the built trucks wouldnt look right but havin it puff a steady stream aint bad at all. hahaha a vw tdi? wow dude thats gayer than a civic. seriously whose gonna say man im gonna build my vw? :jump:

Guess again there is a fine in NC for removal of emissions equipment. And by law you will not meet the guidelines of a dmv inspection or pass state inspections. How do I know? I am licensed NC inspector. Next the fine for dpf is a federal fine and its executed due to failure to comply with emission equipment requirements after a notice. Next I bet you'll say "my buddies will inspect it" and you'll be happy to know that your putting buddies job at risk as well as his license to inspect, his bosses license to inspect and entire company. He could even get a felony charge and up to 25k in fines.


You must be 13

Just a note, if you will research the inspection law you'll see that any vehicle built with emissions equipment must have said equipment present for a passed inspection. Its not required to be oem but must meet all oem requirements. In NC you can fail a vehicle for one led in a 3rd brake light not operating.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2

Diesel Dawgs Performance 04-29-2012 11:38 PM

^^^^ :tu:

rocksmearer 05-24-2012 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by PowerstrokinDually (Post 774106)
a dpf delete is not a fine . diesels have no emissions laws in nc so i aint got nothin to worry about

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yall are extremely stupid. smokin is not embarrassing on a stock truck, now roalin smoke like the built trucks wouldnt look right but havin it puff a steady stream aint bad at all. hahaha a vw tdi? wow dude thats gayer than a civic. seriously whose gonna say man im gonna build my vw? :jump:

Right here lill buddy. I have a built 06 pumpe duse TDI. Makes almost no smoke and bakes the tires off the front end at 35-40 mph. My 96 PSD makes almost no smoke even in extreme tune with stg 2 rosewoods. If you really want smoke do the walmart plastic bag over your air filter mod. It's cheap and gauranteed to smoke.:moon:

Hughes Lawn Landscaping 08-15-2012 03:38 PM

2000. 7.3 psd new to me
 
i have a 2000 f-250 7.3 psd 8in lift with 37's diesels are new to me had a 7.3 a few years ago and nothing but bad luck well im trying agian lol what is a safe way to increase power w/o hurting my truck:humm:

f350-noob-notdumb 09-01-2014 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by PowerstrokinDually (Post 774106)
a dpf delete is not a fine . diesels have no emissions laws in nc so i aint got nothin to worry about

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yall are extremely stupid. smokin is not embarrassing on a stock truck, now roalin smoke like the built trucks wouldnt look right but havin it puff a steady stream aint bad at all. hahaha a vw tdi? wow dude thats gayer than a civic. seriously whose gonna say man im gonna build my vw? :jump:

I'm betting his TDI would smoke your truck. Smoke doesn't mean power, like fart cans don't add any power to the Honda boys cars. My Subaru driving mom who lives in the city is most likely more country than you. Give it up and let intelligent people answer questions and stop was to.g thread space. I tired of trying to read and learn and have to sort through people's s**t like yours. Good day.

dieselguy33 11-23-2014 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by PowerstrokinDually (Post 773824)
yea well yall are some serious idiots! black smoke DOES NOT hurt the environment, its heavier than air so it falls back down aka soot! if yall are worried bout gettin little black specks on you then go buy a prius. i know people with 900hp and 1700tq and thats there daily driver. diesels are made for country boys i guess because it seems yall are to much of a pretty boy or tree hugger. who gives a damn if it smokes? thats when people ride your tail you smoke em out or smokin out peds in town. seriously the guys on here that are against smokin, go buy a prius

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its pecker heads like you gettin electric cars popular. wooooo go green, fags! ever heard of a dpf delete DA? you think of diesels and you think of black smoke and torque. haha yall crack me up thinkin diesels should be "smoke-free", haha smoke free diesel is a stock diesel. yall would hate to come out to my neck of the woods

You must be a kid. I've seen 700 HP duramaxs that don't smoke , and even common rail Cummins that make that and don't smoke. Kids like you make a bad name for diesel guys. And obviously you're a kid because you want smoke, you're broke, and bought a 7.3 obs dually because they're so cheap. And smoke does hurt. It falls to the ground and sits on the soil and soaks in. Killing crops. A "country boy" should know that.

Glennvd44 01-03-2016 06:58 AM

Need more pulling power 1996 FORD F350 7.3 power stroke ASAP

joebob3093 01-03-2016 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Glennvd44 (Post 1105507)
Need more pulling power 1996 FORD F350 7.3 power stroke ASAP

Did you read nothing in this thread?

97 powerstroker 07-09-2016 09:23 PM

Budget power for my 7.3
 
New to the site. I've got a 97 7.3. Bought it with an edge Evo programmer. Recently installed a 4" diamond eye kit, wicked wheel 2, 1.0 ar housing, ebpv delete and a napa 6637. Was surprised how well the 7.3 responded. Was a dog before these upgrades, but now a completely different truck. I don't pull a super heavy trailer (yet) but very more enjoyable to daily drive.

joebob3093 07-10-2016 05:17 PM

you would be amazed at how it will run with some decent tunes, the edge is crap

97 powerstroker 07-10-2016 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by joebob3093 (Post 1116315)
you would be amazed at how it will run with some decent tunes, the edge is crap

My truck runs pretty good with the edge tunes, but that's all I know. Never driven a 7.3 obs with anything other. What would you suggest for tunes? Thanks for your input.

joebob3093 07-10-2016 10:26 PM

i used to have an edge then switched to tunes from tony wildman and it was a night and day difference. i would get a PHP hydra for the chip. that comes with PHP tunes or you can get tunes from other companies and load them on the chip.

97 powerstroker 07-10-2016 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by 97 powerstroker (Post 1116319)
My truck runs pretty good with the edge tunes, but that's all I know. Never driven a 7.3 obs with anything other. What would you suggest for tunes? Thanks for your input.

Not looking to go crazy either, a side from mentioned upgrades is pretty much a stock truck sitting on 37's. Stock sticks too.

97 powerstroker 07-10-2016 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by joebob3093 (Post 1116320)
i used to have an edge then switched to tunes from tony wildman and it was a night and day difference. i would get a PHP hydra for the chip. that comes with PHP tunes or you can get tunes from other companies and load them on the chip.

Awesome, thanks for your input!


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