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muddyold7.3 03-16-2011 07:08 AM

how to black smoke
 
i want my 94 idi n/a to black smoke i really want to get a smoke switch so i can roll coal on the drop of a dime but not use it very ofted idk if they have these for this motor or were to get one any info regarding the switch or balck smoke would be much obliged thanks

DieselCrawler 03-16-2011 07:16 AM

no way to do it. either crank the fuel pump up all the way, put a plastic bag over the air cleaner. no way to switch it on and off. and both of them will burn the motor up VERY quick. not recommended at all.

TeckJohn 03-16-2011 09:04 AM

Sure there is on demand anytime you want. Put a few old tires in the bed and set em on fire when you want black smoke. Am I right? LOL told ya so

wreckinball 03-16-2011 11:26 AM

Yeah just put the microchip in the intake, it will smoke black for sure and give you 1000 horsepower.

Sigh, when will the kids ever learn, youre going to end up getting us all smog checked, emissions checked, and inspected. STOP trying to be cool, because it isnt.

On the other hand, here is what you do, hopefully you dont install a pyro. On the passenger side of the inujection pump there is a little plate, take it off and rotate the crank until you see a little hex head, turn it all the way in! Best luck!

muddyold7.3 03-16-2011 07:49 PM

when i crank up the fuel pump wont that risk my pump going bad?

FORD-INTERNATIONAL MAN 03-16-2011 08:03 PM

mine has been fine for a year.it rolls coal with no hesitation
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prison 03-16-2011 08:13 PM

your an idiot

DieselCrawler 03-16-2011 09:12 PM

no name calling.

turning ther pump up will not cause the pump to go out quicker, if will cause EGTs to be higher, and without a pyrometer, u WILL burn up the motor. just turning it up 1 flat and pulling a 5000lb load behind you will put the EGT's above 1250 very quickly.

prison 03-16-2011 09:13 PM

no name calling? why not? i think its the perfect way to get the point across to someone who just wants to blow smoke.

just turn the pump as far as it'll go

TCU Fan 03-16-2011 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by prison (Post 725031)
your an idiot


So someone is not allowed to ask a question on a forum to get an answer? Why not just not open the thread if this is what you think?

Please do not call the other members name, we were all newbies to diesels at one point.

Just in case you are not aware, he has the right to ask any question he wants. https://www.dieselbombers.com/web-si...questions.html

prison 03-16-2011 09:35 PM

i never said he didnt have the right. lol where in my post does it say he didnt have the right? i do however apologize for the name calling

stackboy6.9 03-16-2011 10:57 PM

just turn your pump up.it wont burn it out any time soon.i didnt put a pyrometer in and its fine.blows black smoke when i lug it down but if you shift right and dont drive like a retard you wont hav to worry bout it smoking out an intersection

muddyold7.3 03-17-2011 11:04 AM

thanks for everyone who thinks its all about black smokin it aint i was just curious because everyone says somethin different im not here to kill the atmosphere i jus wanna have a good time in my old oil burner

95powersmoker 03-17-2011 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by muddyold7.3 (Post 725316)
thanks for everyone who thinks its all about black smokin it aint i was just curious because everyone says somethin different im not here to kill the atmosphere i jus wanna have a good time in my old oil burner

We've all been there... Smoke is cool once in a while but you need to roll coal responsibly.

It wouldn't hurt to at least have an EGT gauge if you're increasing fuel. I'd hate to have you burn it up when it could have been prevented by a little common sense. :c:

redneck sweetheart 03-17-2011 06:27 PM

i love gauges... but idk about the egt gauge??? details?

FORD-INTERNATIONAL MAN 03-17-2011 07:10 PM

i didnt go much on mine. i had it up all the way and at an idle it was puffin.so i turned it down but when i romp on it it rolls coal

Sirwrenchiezolot 03-18-2011 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by redneck sweetheart (Post 725463)
i love gauges... but idk about the egt gauge??? details?

The BEST investment you could make on any diesel. It could prevent a lot of :ouch::argh::dang::scare2: more fuel more heat especialy on ur guyzes idi

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so is messing with the tourque screw gain you anything (the one with the jam nut) not the allen inside the pump ive been tuning up some idis just wondering i dont want curiosity to kill the idi lol or do i:w2:

TeckJohn 03-18-2011 05:15 AM

EGT=Exhaust Gas Tempature otherwise know as a pyrometer

redneck sweetheart 03-18-2011 02:34 PM

haha well i know the pyrometer just hadn't heard of it being called a egt gauge.. well shit i was hopin for a new gauge to add to the collection.. :(

Sirwrenchiezolot 03-20-2011 09:53 PM

So no one out there in idi land has a comment on the tourqe screw:alone:

redneck sweetheart 03-20-2011 11:16 PM

on the injector pump? what about it

Sirwrenchiezolot 03-21-2011 12:24 AM

so is messing with the tourque screw gain you anything (the one with the jam nut) not the allen inside the pump ive been tuning up some idis just wondering i dont want curiosity to kill the idi lol or do i:w2:[/QUOTE]

that was the question

86F2506.9,77F2506.6 03-21-2011 03:31 AM

i don't think u wana play with the torque screw on the back side of the pump i believe you'll burn a hole in a piston really fast if i remember correctly

heres some stuff i found on another site i use
:fuel screw simply adjusts tension on leaf spring that limits plunger movement. turning the screw in lets the plungers go out farther, letting more fuel in. the torque screw limits how far the metering valve can travel. backing the screw out lets the metering valve move farther (more wide open) letting more fuel to the plungers.

i tryd posting links to the site to a fourm that was discuseing the torque screw

Torque screw vs fuel screw? - Oilburners.net


Torque screw vs fuel screw? - Oilburners.net

wreckinball 03-21-2011 08:50 AM

The torque screw only dumps fuel in until about 1500 rpm, then it is no different than stock. Simply put, at low rpm, it helps build boost faster by increasing fuel delivery in those lower rpms. Hence the name, torque screw. The allen screw behind the plate should be called the horsepower screw so that it would make more sense to the layman. turn HP screw for overall gain, turn TQ screw for lowend gain. When i played with my tq screw, i could hit about 850 on my pyro sitting in my driveway. It spews fuel so be careful. If you mess with the fuel, you have the have a pyro. If you dont get one, RIP. Dont listen to naysayers, they just got lucky and didnt turn it up enough or are talking out their asses trying to seem cooler than a teenagers wet sock. :w2:

muddyold7.3 03-21-2011 12:53 PM

what happens if i just turn the hp screw just a cunt hair?

BVFD54 03-21-2011 06:32 PM

It will run more fuel and increase EGT. Dont chance it get a pyro before even thinking of turning up the fuel. :tu:

muddyold7.3 03-21-2011 06:40 PM

how much isa pyro ps i just went form 4wd to 3wd

BVFD54 03-21-2011 07:16 PM

Prices on a pyro are not bad you can get them pretty decent price at performance shops or get a quote from someone that sells them on here. ( A pyro is a lot cheaper than a rebuild on an IDI) :c:

muddyold7.3 03-21-2011 08:49 PM

do u have a balpark estimate?

DieselCrawler 03-21-2011 09:34 PM

a good pyro will normally run around 100 bucks or so.

wreckinball 03-28-2011 06:14 AM

165 for my z series autometer pyro. This is an area you don't want to be cheap. If you can't afford the pyro, you can't afford a rebuild so don't touch.:c:

madbret 04-07-2011 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by wreckinball (Post 730415)
165 for my z series autometer pyro. This is an area you don't want to be cheap. If you can't afford the pyro, you can't afford a rebuild so don't touch.:c:

x2 Very good advice here, boys.

diesels onley 04-07-2011 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by muddyold7.3 (Post 725316)
thanks for everyone who thinks its all about black smokin it aint i was just curious because everyone says somethin different im not here to kill the atmosphere i jus wanna have a good time in my old oil burner

shoot we turn our trucks up till hay smoke just cuz it makes the guys in the ricers mad wen you smoke them out cuz the tip is in their window

muddyold7.3 04-07-2011 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by diesels onley (Post 736375)
shoot we turn our trucks up till hay smoke just cuz it makes the guys in the ricers mad wen you smoke them out cuz the tip is in their window

well put bubba thats the whole purpose screw a honda

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and to how many degrees do i need to have on my pyro?

95powersmoker 04-07-2011 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by muddyold7.3 (Post 736467)
well put bubba thats the whole purpose screw a honda

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and to how many degrees do i need to have on my pyro?

1600* will do you just fine.

oldiesel 04-10-2011 03:44 AM

as far as the "torque screw" it actually is a high rpm fuel adjustment so it adjust how much fuel you put in on the top in:viking:

wreckinball 04-11-2011 03:25 AM

No, it spits fuel at low rpm. The design is to clean up the exhaust at takeoff but allow for faster spool if turned up where it is supposed to be lol. The allen screw on the side under the plate runs fuel across the powerband.

cornfed 04-25-2011 09:43 PM

good lord with fuel prices the way they are I keep my foot out of it as much as posible, but if your gonna turn the pump up keep an eye on it, got mine way hot on the way home from the shop after getting my new pump and inj installed it happens quick.

turbo2332 07-17-2011 01:06 PM

exhaust gas temperature. the more fuel you try and burn the hotter your engine will get and without a turbo to push cool air through your engine will get HOT fast if you let it smoke for any given period of time. its more or less insurence so you can get your right foot off the pedal and let your engine cool down. and your truck is real easy to turn the ump up on. just dont go nutzzzz

rjjp 12-05-2011 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Sirwrenchiezolot (Post 725654)
so is messing with the tourque screw gain you anything (the one with the jam nut) not the allen inside the pump ive been tuning up some idis just wondering i dont want curiosity to kill the idi lol or do i:w2:

Yes it does gain you something, you light the turbo faster. I personally have mine set to achieve 10-11lbs of boost (don't trust stock head bolts) and I have full boost before 1000 rpm.


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