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PowerstrokeTech87 06-07-2011 12:00 AM

A true bomb
 
So tomorrow or sometime this week i have a 07 6.0 to be built to the hilt on my box. Saw it when i was locking up my box. I will be at least 2-3 weeks on this truck and will post updates. Unfortunatly i wont be able to post pics, my camera went AWOL and my phone takes crap pics.

Here is a list of things i will be doing i have seen a trans coffin and TONS of boxes this guys bed is full of components and i cant wait to see what i have comming. All Cash Pay too!
As per RO (3 pages long)
1. Installing an aftermarket radiator
2. Installing coolant filter
3. Installing an aftermarket transmission, torque converter, New trans lines, tranny cooler and external filter.
4. Installing aftermarket turbo
5. Installing aftermarket exhaust components (crossing fingers for stacks because this has a rear slider window)
6. Installing aftermarket drive shaft
7. Installing aftermarket heads
8. Installing aftermarket intake manifold gaskets included(assuming heads and intake are ported maybe even fire ringed)
9. Installing aftermarket injectors
10. Installing upgraded egr system (assuming egr delete since thats what our svc mgr writes for egr delete or bullet proof egr)
11. Installing new oil cooler
12. Installing aftermarket camshaft (when i read that i damn near had a heart attack from excitment)
13. Installing aftermarket performance upgrades (assuming a chip but there are far too many boxes in bed and rear seat)
14. Installing 35x12.50x17s (tires are in parts room)
15. Installing upgraded fuel system (assuming fuel pump fuel lines etc)
16. Installing upgraded CAC (intercooler)
17. Installing lift kit and dual steering stabilizers
18. Perform alignment
19. Installing upgraded FICM and FICM bracket (havent heard of an upgraded ficm bracket i assume its the early build 1 piece bracket which is far more sturdier than the late build 2 piece less vibration)
20. Install custom audio system
21. Installing upgraded brake components
22. Install body upgrades (it better not be a spoiler/rice rocket wing)
23. Install remaining componentry + follow all proceedures and torque specs.
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For this build i will be tearing the front end apart (grille head lights coolers etc undo the front 4 cab mounts and raise the front of the cab and remove the engine) then once all the engine is done ill road test it and verify everything is good then install the lift and tires.

HeavyAssault 06-07-2011 09:36 AM

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PowerstrokeTech87 06-07-2011 10:26 PM

Well theres at least 20k in parts in the bed of this truck.
Propane, Nitrous, both have toggle switches Water meth which is supposed to be wired into the gas pedal.
Much larger turbo, pretty much appears to be a stock sized turbo but has larger inlet and outlet.

Has a different hpop and tons of goodies. The heads are fire ringed (will have to hone the top of the cyls and mic em for perfect fit) and have larger intake and exhaust ports. sinister egr delete arp studs black onyx gaskets.

I have 1 question for anyone who has black onyx gaskets what kind of luck and what kind of mods do you have running with them? Ive never installed aftermarket gaskets, only ford gaskets with the studs and the trucks either stayed stock or highly modified and didnt have any issues, but after i road test em for the first time i pop the valve covers off and turn the nuts another 90* other techs just follow the 70 140 210ftlbs 90* and ship em.

Mdub707 06-10-2011 10:38 AM

Use OEM Ford head gaskets, the black onyx are not the correct thickness even uncompressed, worse when compressed. I would only use FORD. GOGO does offer copper ones though, might be worth looking at for this extensive of a build.

What injectors, what turbo, want more info here!

I'd toss the propane in the fuggin garbage personally.... why on earth would anyone need propane with the other mods already listed. Silly I tell ya.

Who's trans?

This is like torture, give us this huge build sheet and no specs!! BAhhhhh!!!! Is he a local NY guy?

Sounds like some mis-matched parts here. I'd really like to know what turbo and injectors they will be using, and that will help pick the rest of the parts here. Sounds like some jackwagon went to a diesel supply website and just bought everything available with no help on choosing parts here. Just my 2 cents.

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Call me a traitor, but if I had 20k to throw at this truck, a 5.9 commonrail would be sitting under the hood.

HeavyAssault 06-10-2011 11:14 AM

Yea...that list reads like all the ads in a DieselPower mag. Really overboard.

skooter 06-10-2011 01:34 PM

if you had 20 grand to throw at a truck why the hell would you drop a cummins in it?
thats like putting a honda motor in a ferrari imo lol.
sorry just not a cummins fan... at all lol
we 12 valve swapped my 74 ford. cool truck good power. but with 8 grand in aftermarket shit on that 12 valve it wont stay with my powerstroke..
if i could do it all over again i would defintly drop a 7.3 in that old 74!

Mdub707 06-10-2011 02:13 PM

I'd like to discuss that more, but in lieu of keeping this thread on track... I'd like to hear more about this 6.0 build. I agree, nothing really sounds like a straight-piped/tuned 6.0. I wish I got the powerslider for the rear glass in my truck, PITA to reach back and slide it open manually. The stacks sound killer with the glass open.

PowerstrokeTech87 06-11-2011 03:23 PM

Turbo appears externally slightly different from a stock one, it is a garret vgt. the impellar housing is larger and compressor housing is larger.

The transmission is from BD the externall cooler is from BD sct livewire is in the truck, i just got done putting the motor together and turned it by hand. no valves hit, used a cyl hone and inside mic to break the carbon ridge off the top of the cyl and the fire rings fit tight. sinister egr delete, now im just drilling the intake and putting the nitrous nozles in and the water meth injects into cac tube.

HeavyAssault 06-11-2011 05:31 PM

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Mdub707 06-13-2011 08:51 AM

Probably a garrett powermax? Sounds like a pretty large waste of $20k if he's only going to be touching 500hp or less at the wheels. Really would like to know what turbo it is exactly and what injectors are being used.

Any manufacturing numbers on the turbo? Garrett GT3788VA?

PowerstrokeTech87 06-15-2011 04:57 PM

It is a powermaxx.

Mdub707 06-16-2011 07:53 AM

A lot of money being spent to make 500 rwhp. Still cool I guess. Post pics if you can!:pca1:

Any more info on these "aftermarket heads" Are they just remans from Liberator or something, or are they actually ported heads from Elite or something along those lines? All this money and still using the stock intake manifold too?

HeavyAssault 06-17-2011 05:27 AM

Money doesn't always buy happiness. What stage is this "true bomb" at now? How far along in the process?

scrotom 06-17-2011 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by HeavyAssault (Post 764756)
Money doesn't always buy happiness. What stage is this "true bomb" at now? How far along in the process?

I'd like the chance to find out if money can't buy happiness !

PowerstrokeTech87 06-17-2011 09:44 PM

The engines back in. Havent been able to re-assemble the truck, 6.4s are pouring in by the dozens with everything from the SH!T Tank radiators blowing apart (new tsb raping us harder applying to the current radiator problems instead of ford fessing up they have junk mexican radiators change the degas bottle, upper+lower hoses to a 2010 inspect front covers for cavitation water pumps for impellar damage, thermostats for hyperextension plus r+r radiator only pays 3.3, 3.7 to replace front cover with r+r radiator) to egr coolers blowing apart, to engine meltdowns. Ive been going without lunch break this whole week going in at 8 and staying til 9-10 pm tonights the first night i got out before 9. and the other diesel tech is out so im pulling the weight of 2 people.

The intake is stock but the ports are larger and match the intake ports on the heads. The gaskets were blue not white and larger intake port holes. im hoping to get it done tomorrow and just tell the guy i gota do the lift kit another time. I wana pressure test this thing in the worst way.

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Got a winner of a 6.4, customer wanted to make it back home towing 14k pounds and hauling 5yards of gravel in a 09 F450 dumptruck when the horizontal egr cooler blew, high pressure turbo failed, the oil cooler failed (degas bottle is black looks like roofing tar) and eventually ran away. miss fire was detected at 5892 rpm.-thats how i know it was a runaway aside from a bone dry crankcase

6.4s go :choochoo: then :scare2: then boom. then i gotta :moon: and take it. I swear ford would be better off to have us repower them with studded 6.0s or new 6.7s and trannyf and all thier computerized controls. 6.4s are good for 1 thing and 1 thing only-yaght anchors. hell theyre heavy enough...

HeavyAssault 06-18-2011 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by scrotom (Post 764767)
I'd like the chance to find out if money can't buy happiness !

Right there with ya!!

MUDSTROKIN' 06-21-2011 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by PowerstrokeTech87 (Post 764959)
miss fire was detected at 5892 rpm.

What do the 6.4s rev limit at?

And mike, How much HP will a powermax support?

Mdub707 06-21-2011 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by MUDSTROKIN' (Post 765947)
What do the 6.4s rev limit at?

And mike, How much HP will a powermax support?


My guess would be around a max of 550rwhp. That would be with 190's. A few guys have done high 400's like 480 with 155's and a powermax. Stepping up to 190's with a powermax you're probably not going to be towing much. Supposedly they run out of air up top with the 190's too.

PowerstrokeTech87 06-24-2011 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by MUDSTROKIN' (Post 765947)
What do the 6.4s rev limit at?

And mike, How much HP will a powermax support?

3800 rpm. Crank and cam signal detected as part of missfire detection obd2 compliance. When any diesel runs away its chuggin its own oil as fuel.

Now the truck is reassembled and holy hell is it fast! very little smoke on the medium setting the water meth was tricky wiring into the APP and actually getting it to work. There were a few issues with the build though. the lift isnt going to be installed by us were far too backed up with warranty work to even begin to do a lift kit so its off to be done elsewhere. One of the nozzles wasnt sealing in the intake and it made me go nuts trying to figure out why the truck was lacking power almost as though someone pulled the egr valve out of the intake while it was running. it would smoke sputter and die. Put a new Oring on it and teflon tape on the nozzle and found it by using the handy dandy smoke tester as a last ditch effort before i tore the engine back out and apart to see if the camshaft was off a tooth. The exhaust note is far more agressive than a stock 6.0, this cam has i believe the same lift or slightly more by .03 of an inch and much more duration, it has a slightly lopey idle nothing like a dirt oval or 1/4 mile small block chevy, and the exhaust note was more raspy crackly very very nice.

HeavyAssault 06-25-2011 05:00 AM

This is starting to read like a internet 6.0 build....reads great but there is no real work being done. Believe half of what you read and all that you can see.
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Mdub707 06-25-2011 09:06 AM

I really hope this guy is planning on going bigger with the turbo and sticks down the road. Though we don't know what size injectors he's using here...

Why on earth would someone pay for all the trouble of swapping the cam out, when the turbo choice won't even support enough power to justify it. This build really has me scratching my head. I suppose if he plans on just running it this way to get used to it and get some baselines, then swapping a larger snail and some big sticks in, then maybe it makes sense.... kind of.

HeavyAssault 06-25-2011 07:24 PM

Something tells me we been hooked........

HeavyAssault 06-28-2011 12:56 PM

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jhart242 07-02-2011 04:46 AM

He sounds like he is reading from a book. Turn to page 38 in this months............

HeavyAssault 07-05-2011 12:04 PM

I'm sure he was...too much idle time being on summer vacation from school.


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