compound help!
i am doing a compoud setup on my w250, now my friend wants me to go with a hx35 or s300 over a k31, but i want to do a he351ve or the k31. will the 351 hold up? will my dp be safe or will it be too much for the 351? and will the 351 flow as much air as a hx35 or s300? i just figured that because the 351 has the billet 60mm compressor wheel which i am pretty sure is the same as the s300? why not go with the 351 for its vgt ability. i hope you guys can help. thank you :tu:
---AutoMerged DoublePost--- or are there any other top turbo's that you guys know of that are budget oriented/ under $500 that would work? a garret off a 96 powerstroke for instance? is using the he351 and just fixing the vains to a certain size would be a cheap way of copying a s300? |
get a he351cw and be done with the vane buisness
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Originally Posted by dieseldawg
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get a he351cw and be done with the vane buisness
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Re: compound help!
Id go with an hx35 spooling an s400 im making about the same power as you and they do great and the setup is pretty snappy
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Yep, a HX35/S400 combo work very well!
https://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-2...urbos-2-a.html |
the 351 flows about as much as a hx40! hx35 has a 3 inch dp as the 351 has 4 inch
dont know why anyone would use a hx35 if they had the choice to go with a 351?? am i missing somthing??? |
Just pull the trigger any of the set-ups you choose will be better then a single...:c: My personal choice is S300 next to a S400 frame as there is so many different exhaust housing and wheels available if you choice to change things up..
If your goal is 550HP your going to need more then just twin turbos. Have you considered all the other things that go with making that kind of HP level on a VE pump? |
Originally Posted by SNOOT
(Post 745677)
Just pull the trigger any of the set-ups you choose will be better then a single...:c:
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Pretty sure the smile on his face with twins will last at least a month.. That is till he spoons his trans. :pca1:
Its a 1ST GEN truck its like having a rat rod ... No one makes poop for it you just put a bunch of stuff together run a couple of hoses here and there and turn the key. |
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Originally Posted by SNOOT
(Post 745677)
If your goal is 550HP your going to need more then just twin turbos. Have you considered all the other things that go with making that kind of HP level on a VE pump?
Don't think for one minute that power level comes without a cost .. . . . over and above what it costs to build the complete engine. :s: I'm in the final stages of a 48RH build for my mess to get similar power to the ground without busting a gut. Attachment 41965 You've already mentions the words "budget oriented". . . . . . oops. But it is fun to take a 6400lb cinder block on 33's and run a high 12 second 1/4 mile pass. The silly ricer in the other lane ~ "Y'all watch me blister this old guy and his stupid farm truck", never sees it coming. :tttt: |
bc thats one of the best feelings ever!! haha
and i dont have half the truck you do!! it must be nice!!!! |
the 351 flows about as much as a hx40! hx35 has a 3 inch dp as the 351 has 4 inch dont know why anyone would use a hx35 if they had the choice to go with a 351?? am i missing somthing??? |
Originally Posted by RAWilliams
(Post 745833)
The 4" outlet will only help if you have a 4" hot pipe. If the hot pipe is 3", a 4" outlet means little. Already having a HX35 makes the price right.
how hard is it to fab up a hot pipe?? do i detect a little turbo envy?? hahaha |
Snoot And BC847 are VERY smart when it comes to these things.
Originally Posted by BC847
(Post 745751)
You've already mentions the words "budget oriented". . . . . . oops.
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lol Thanks RSWORDS.. Its tough just getting to the 400HP level with these trucks let alone 550HP.
Really though its not going to make a huge difference what turbos you use to get 550HP. It will be more about the injection pump and transmission you have. There are a lot of twins sets out there using the good old HX-35 and a 3" hot pipe that make 550HP. Not sure how many VE trucks there are but lots of P pumped and VP trucks.:pca1: |
the plan
heres whats getting done to my truck, 14mm ve, twins, manual trans with a pulling dual disk from sb, doubler, 4.10 gears, 14 bolt rear, 60 front, 100-150 injectors, head studs, valve springs, intake, intercooler, .84 injector lines, 150+ fuel pump, draw straw or bottom sump,bigger fuel lines,fluid damper, water meth, ported/polished head, if there is anything i am missing please let me know. and yes i know you cant build 500+ hp on a budget but i am fabing, installing, and doing all the work myself so it saves me alot on the cost. and having friends who conpete in truck pulling also helps quit a bit lol. i work a lot of hours so money aint much of a issue. its the time to put ithis all together thats hard to find lol. you guys probably know how that is.
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who already has the hx?? how hard is it to fab up a hot pipe?? do i detect a little turbo envy?? hahaha |
Re: compound help!
Originally Posted by frosty4227
(Post 746326)
heres whats getting done to my truck, 14mm ve, twins, manual trans with a pulling dual disk from sb, doubler, 4.10 gears, 14 bolt rear, 60 front, 100-150 injectors, head studs, valve springs, intake, intercooler, .84 injector lines, 150+ fuel pump, draw straw or bottom sump,bigger fuel lines,fluid damper, water meth, ported/polished head, if there is anything i am missing please let me know. and yes i know you cant build 500+ hp on a budget but i am fabing, installing, and doing all the work myself so it saves me alot on the cost. and having friends who conpete in truck pulling also helps quit a bit lol. i work a lot of hours so money aint much of a issue. its the time to put ithis all together thats hard to find lol. you guys probably know how that is.
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Originally Posted by RAWilliams
(Post 746350)
Many truck come equipped with HX35's.
:pca1: how many 1st gen's came with hx-35s? :pca1: Obviously you've never tried or researched it. no i have never made a hot pipe your right!! pipe work is easy! have you ever tried?? hes doing his own fab work so im sure he knows what hes doing! Hell no! I have a proven system that cost me $700, and makes 50 PSI of boost with the chip off.:tttt: i got all sorts of chips in my truck!! doritos lays fritos whos knows what else is under my seat! haha seems to me like he frosty wants to actually build his own truck not just buy a bunch of parts and throw them on there! |
seems to me like he frosty wants to actually build his own truck not just buy a bunch of parts and throw them on there! Clean your truck. |
Originally Posted by frosty4227
(Post 746326)
heres whats getting done to my truck, 14mm ve, twins, manual trans with a pulling dual disk from sb, doubler, 4.10 gears, 14 bolt rear, 60 front, 100-150 injectors, head studs, valve springs, intake, intercooler, .84 injector lines, 150+ fuel pump, draw straw or bottom sump,bigger fuel lines,fluid damper, water meth, ported/polished head, if there is anything i am missing please let me know. and yes i know you cant build 500+ hp on a budget but i am fabing, installing, and doing all the work myself so it saves me alot on the cost. and having friends who conpete in truck pulling also helps quit a bit lol. i work a lot of hours so money aint much of a issue. its the time to put ithis all together thats hard to find lol. you guys probably know how that is.
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Originally Posted by SNOOT
(Post 746281)
lol Thanks RSWORDS.. Its tough just getting to the 400HP level with these trucks let alone 550HP.
Really though its not going to make a huge difference what turbos you use to get 550HP. It will be more about the injection pump and transmission you have. There are a lot of twins sets out there using the good old HX-35 and a 3" hot pipe that make 550HP. Not sure how many VE trucks there are but lots of P pumped and VP trucks.:pca1: |
Originally Posted by RAWilliams
(Post 746423)
I guess you didn't look at my thread on my turbos them. I fabbed it myself, with a little help from a welding buddy fro the Hot Pipe.
Clean your truck. NEVER!!! hahaha |
w250
you are right about me building my own truck, i cant stand watching someone else wrench on my truck let alone paying them to do it. i know the non i/c have head cracking issues so what i think i will do is to buy a second motor from a intercooled first gen. build it outside the truck on a engine stand then when the time comes ill swap it in and keep the original as a spare i can put in if something goes wrong with this one. i do not make crazy money a hour, i make min wage but, i am young, live at home, and work almost full time so the money collects in my account faster than usual. really i want my build to be unique, most the time unique causes issues because of parts becoming custom made and what not. will i be doing aluminum heads? heck no, at least not at 6k a pop. but putting in pistons, connecting rods, cam, stroker crank, gapless piston rings, aftermarket bearings and bolts, the first box on the checklist to cover is the drivability and reliability area, then hp and torque, then paint/body and sound. i think diesel bombers is a awesome website with tons of knoweldge to be learned by listening to others. when i first got my truck it was bone stock, and i had no idea diesels could blow black smoke, make crazy horsepower and torque, and all the other great amazing stuff diesel fuel can do. but now because of you guys i got a truck that i have built myself and will continue to build myself, it destroys most gassers around and is cool to look and and say i built that. i thank all of you guys on here for helping me and hopefully continue to help me with my build. whether ya think i am for real or not. ill start up a build thread hopefully tonight. do you guys know which i/c engine from a first gen is the best one to start tearing apart?
---AutoMerged DoublePost--- what injectors would you recomend? should i call scheid diesel or ponci's? i want the fuel to be sprayed directly into the bowl, so its as effecient as possible |
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