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RSWORDS 10-22-2008 06:50 PM

For a 2nd gen 12 valve there are alot of places that can get you a spring. For those of us with 1st gen's you have to pretty much get it from Bosch.

meclint692002 10-22-2008 10:10 PM

I have a question what is the safest rpm to wrap a first gen up to with a factory motor? At what rpm do I need to get new valve springs?

RSWORDS 10-24-2008 05:04 PM

In all reality all you need is the 3200 spring. Teh VE does not make any real power over that. Anything over that and you should look at 60# Valve springs. And I would not spin the stock internals more then 4k.

welderboy250 10-25-2008 11:30 AM

if u wanna go above 4000 u need a fluidamper to keep harmonic vibrations from becoming catastrophic.

BC847 11-16-2008 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 194085)
Here are the part numbers and different rpm defuel specs for some springs.... there are alot more. You can even get a spring to fuel up to 5200 rpm.

1-464-650-386 spring = 2800rpm spring *Stock*
1-464-650-366 spring = 3200rpm spring *Best Over All Mod*
1-464-650-374 spring = 3800rpm spring *May need to trim to Stock Length*need 60 lbs valve springs*
1-464-650-354 srping = 4200rpm spring *May need to trim to Stock Length*need 60 lbs valve springs*

Thanks Bobby. :U:

RSWORDS 11-18-2008 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by BC847 (Post 236978)
Thanks Bobby. :U:


DAVID!!!

Welcome to the site man! Glad to have a 1st gen guru here! I know just eough to slid by. :D

foxracer1 12-15-2008 06:28 PM

I'm in the process of making a mechanical TDI pump for a VW TDI. I'll use parts from the stock electronic VW TDI pump, a mechanical VW pump, and a 4BT pump. I'm interested in finding a 5200rpm spring, also do they have ones that go higher? Could i use the those partnumbers and contact bosch to order springs?

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I might also note that a few overseas guys have more available mechanical pumps. Several have installed 12mm plungers and had them sieze from high rpm high fueling conditions. Might be something to think about for you guys.

RSWORDS 12-15-2008 07:04 PM

We have 12mm stock... The big power guys upgrade to the 14mm head and rotor. And yes its a low RPM deal (3200 RPM)

Welcome to the site!

foxracer1 12-15-2008 07:12 PM

Yeah i'm kinda familiar to the dodge scene. I would love to have any gen dodge diesel but don't exactly need one at the time. But i still need a diesel of some sort. good site so far. Thanks Where do you guys source the 14mms from?

RSWORDS 12-16-2008 05:24 PM

There is a guy named KTA that makes a batch every so offten then there is teh rokken-tech one. Little cheaper but you get what you pay for!


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