Snubber Valve...?
 

Hey guys, I'm finally gettin my gauges and need some help.

I'm purchasing the gauges from Glowshift and they got a great deal goin on, thriple gauges w/pod for rougly $250. I'm gettin boost gauge, 60 psi; EGT, up to 2500* and fuel pressure, 30 psi. When I picked out my fuel pressure gauge it recommended a snubber valve and banjo bolt too. Do I need these for my pickup or are they just optional? Do they benifit or make the gauge work more accurately or what?

I will be installing a FASS Titanium system in a few weeks too so will the snubber valve or banjo bolt be a necessity for the install or help it somehow?

Also, just saw it also offers a boost bolt adapter for intake manifold... What is this and (again) is it necessary?

I really only want to do this once and do it correct so any and all info/advice is encouraged and welcomed. Thanks guys, EA

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Here's the link to the website for GlowShift gauges I'm getting.

98-02 Dodge Ram Cummins Custom Gauge Package

THEY TOLD ME THEY WOULDNT WARRANTY ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE FUEL PRESSURE GAUGE IF I DIDNT BUY THE DAMN SNUBBER VALVE FOR IT.....NOT SURE IF THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO GET AN EXTRA 20 OR NOT???

What's it for though?

Just my opinon (as somebody who owns, and has read about glowshift ALOT) do NOT buy your FP gauge from them... just google the stories about them, that alone was enough to keep me steering clear of it. Heres a pic of mine...
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...19013352_n.jpg

I bought glowshift set with tranny temp, egt, and boost and ran ISS pro's FP gauge inside the $30 autometer column pod I got from jegs. Just my opinion, said and done with snubber and all was about $400. No issues with anything so far.

Hmmm, yall're depressing me lol

Depressing me to that lookes like my wallet on the dash..lol

Hehe I'm pretty sure it'll be empty. :lol88:

Sorry empty, had to do it

Your going to fit in right in here..:tu: That was funny..lol

Take the wallet, but don't steal my shades those spy's are expensive and they fit me oh so nice... I'm just lucky my wallet hasn't been swallowed up by the cracks in my dash :D

Thank ya sir, aimin to keep it real :jump:

On the more serious note, yay or nay with GS fuel press gauge? I just sold some stuff I had so I have the whole amount for the setup. I don't mind payin the extra $20-30 if it'll work like it's supposed to, do once right, right? :choochoo:

I am a auto meter guy I have them in both my trucks for years and my cars.

Haha you oughta see the canyon in mine, it's tttthhhhiiiissss big! I got a buddy that has a least three phones in his, it's crazy!

Hey, how do your other GS gauges work? Any problems with them?

I've never owned one, but like I said I read alot of bad reviews. It's your money, I will say the gs gauges I have are fine, and all seem to be right on point.

Autometer looks good, no doubt, but I don't have the dough for them, not all at least.

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Kool and yes I saw some bad reviews, mainly the FP. But I think most were because the valve was set up on the VP an that rattled it loose or what have you. One guy did say he rigged it to his firewall and all's good... I'll bite the bullet with them, see what comes about. If they do fail they'll get an earfull, guaranteed. I think they're actually based here in TX not too far away, I can always truck up there and show em what's screwed.

Thanks for the input and laughs guys, I knew I like this place for some reason or other. :c:

I need a bumper sticker that says that... if only I had a back bumper :humm:

I guess if that's all you can afford, go for it. I wanted all ISS but it was the same issue for me. If you have issues just hound them, other forum posts said guys were getting replacement sending units and even whole gauges for free, so atleast you have peace of mind in that.

HAHA mingle, we have an idea :hellox:

Yea I'd like to get ISS or AM but yup, money's tight. I saw some of those post too so I'll at least keep that in mind. Thans for your help man, greatly appreciated :c:

aguilar_15 -- THEY TOLD ME THAT THE SNUBBER WAS BECAUSE THE CUMMINS SENDS A BUNCH OF PRESSURE AT START UP WHICH WILL BUST THE GAUGES OVER TIME...........I DO LIKE MY GLOWSHIFT GAUGES BUT THE FUEL PRESSURE DOES BOUNCE AROUND A LOT---NOT TOO SURE IF ITS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT WAY.

the snubber is to soften spikes and flucuations before the gauge, they should be used with most liquids to prevent gauge damage. if its a electronic gauge, there sender should have a snubber built into it IMO...

Well I talked to a buddy today that has GS gauges too and pretty much said they're crap. He has pyro, boost and fp but doesn't like them at all. Honestly, from what you've all said and from what I've read I'll just save some more :argh:, get ISSPRO or AutoMeter

Thanks guys, yall rock :rocking: :c:

The stock piston pump needs a snubber to avoid beating the crap out of a fuel gauge. Using an electric like you intend to does not require a snubber. Tell them it is for the FASS, not the stock fuel pump.

O it makes a difference if it's for the stock pump or a FASS? CRAP!

I'M CONFUSED!!! :scare2:

The snubber valve is a mesh filter that supposed to cushion impact of high pressure on the diaphram of the sending unit. I imagine with high volume units this may be helpful,I just puchased the glowshift gauges,fuel pressure,egt,boost,very satisfied with them exept one issue,the dimming feature.I wish they had it set up old school to dim when you dim the dash lights. I 'll look into that later,now to busy:tu:

I like the autometer guages aswell

i got the fp gauge from them everything works great ill sell ya snubber for 40 bucks u pay shipping if ur interested pm me its brand new

That would be incorrect. It is supopsed to smooth out the differences between the high and low pressure waves created by mechanical pumps, which may cause fluttering or damage the gauge.

I use a needle valve for a snubber on my 1st Gen.

I forgot to mention that I used a hose to remote mount the sending unit of the engine,to keep engine vibrations off the sending unit

If you don't push the diaphram hard you will not move the variable resitor to the point of supplying to much ground to the gauge where damage can occor

You can use a needle valve instead of the snubber. Napa part number WH6820, they cost about $8 two years ago. After you install it, close the valve completely. Then just barely crack it open untill you start to get a reading on your gauge. I've been running a GlowShift FP gauge for over two years now with no problems.

I've heard that you can use a flexible hose off a grease gun to act as an isolator between the snubber and the sending unit to help smooth out the pulsations.

would it be possible to use a needle and snubber valve together? any benfit from this?

ok i was just wondering cause if someone brought a glowshift and then used both if it might prolong the gauge that most have problems with

You could, but there wouldn't be any point. They both do the same job, the needle valve is just a cheap alternative.

i understand. i and like many others have heard more bad stories than good stories. thats why i was asking. maybe it would protect the sender more than one alone.

My Glowshift FP gauge has been going strong for over 2 years with just the needle valve.

i understand. i and like many others have heard more bad stories than good stories. thats why i was asking. maybe it would protect the sender more than one alone.

Hmmm needle valve, I'll keep that in my brain

Thank yall :c:

It Takes All Three on My 1st Gen
 

Apparently the piston pump alomg with a sensitive Autometer gauge requires a snubber, rubber hose and a needle valve to keep things smoothed out on that setup.

YMMV.

Im running an autometer FP guage, NO snubber or needle valve, been that way for 160k miles and tons of pulls and dyno runs. Thing works just like it did on day 1

What fuel pump? Apparently a FASS, AD or similar, based on the pulling, dyno, etc I'd guess. Yep, like I said earlier in the thread, electrics don't need them.

FASS