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zach2 03-23-2011 04:40 PM

Programmer and Tuner Question
 
I have enjoyed the mild tuning mods and Hypertech program on stage 3 for several years now. I want to know how a set of mildly performance injectors will change things. Horsepower and torque. EGTs. MPGs!!! Stock clutch with 210k miles on it. Is a hotter program better, easier, and cheaper? What do yall think?

KillStroker 03-23-2011 06:59 PM

Well the injectors are gonna give you increase hp/tq, and depending how you drive better mpgs. But your gonna have higher egts if you dont have a A/F turbo that would support this added fuel. If I was you I would get a btr clutch than add the power thats just me. Plus a more aggresive tuner that taps into your injector pump, better fuel sticks and a turbo and your gonna see a big increase. Depending on if you constantly gettin on the fuel pedal will make the differenced if your stock clutch last.:nope:

zach2 03-23-2011 08:54 PM

I appreciate your info, Killstroker. I'm really looking for a much less extreme (expensive) increase in power. Have I already reached the point to where that's my only option? Hypertech, 4" exhaust without muffler, BHAF, and Raptor 100 lift pump is my list of mods.

1st_gen_puller 03-23-2011 09:12 PM

what about guages???? If not then a EJWA would be a great choice with a supprting clutch.. Fill out your sig!!!!!!!!!:scare2: lol

zach2 03-23-2011 09:51 PM

Ha! You're right! I do need to fill out my profile. I have got pillar mounted pyro and boost gauges.

1st_gen_puller 03-24-2011 12:14 AM

then u cant beat a comp box...IMO or maybe even a smarty revo..:rocking:

zach2 03-24-2011 05:18 AM

Thanks. Will the Comp box compensate for tire size? Can l get that from my Hypertech and use them both?

KillStroker 03-24-2011 06:41 AM

I think you can use them both but I would use the Comp box for fuel/timing and the hypertech on stock but for your tires and gearing. U need to check to see if they will stack first. My second thought is you could just get a diff tire size compensator that doesnt plug into your OBD port?????

zach2 03-24-2011 02:25 PM

If they are compatible, what change in fuel mileage can I expect and what about VP44 longevity? For my info, when do I look at larger injectors?

KillStroker 03-24-2011 03:36 PM

Well Its avertised at 2-3 mpg depending upon driving style?????? Thats up to you to debate and people on here will probably chime in. I know I have an edge on mine and just plugging it on stock lvl the truck is just a smoother operator. I would say ive gotten a lil increase in fuel but I put a Airdog 150 in as well so its hard to say about getting btr mileage. The AD says the the same mileage increase. But have I seen a 4-6 increase with the 2? ...no. I generally get 23mpg on the "make a wish overhead counter". Running it on the Mileage lvl.

As far as the VP44 There is some stickys all about VP44's at the begining of the discussion board.
https://www.dieselbombers.com/24-val...formation.html Direct Link.

Get a Fuel pressure gauge yesterday.

Injectors well its hard saying for future I assume your running the stock turbo. Id stick to 50hp-100hp sticks unless you plan for an upgraded turbo and tranny work in the future. I plan on getting 150 sticks soon but had to pay for Hot water heater. I also saving for a turbo and tranny. I just found out that Goerend Tranny is only and hour from my house.:tu:

zach2 03-24-2011 04:53 PM

Thanks again for your input! Calculator shows 18.5mpg for me. 23 is awesome for a truck like ours! Are larger injectors useless with only slightly modified fueling and stock turbo?

KillStroker 03-25-2011 09:36 AM

No as long as you keep an eye on your pyro.

01quadcab 03-25-2011 09:42 AM

a programmer like the comp box and a set of 40-50hp injectors will make the truck rock and still be a nice daily driver. Get the comp first then add injectors when your ready. I liked my truck with a hx35 and some marine injectors. mileage was good too.

zach2 03-25-2011 06:03 PM

Thanks again guys. I'll try to find out if Hypertech and Edge are compatible.

gpandlf 03-25-2011 06:21 PM

You don't wanna stack the edge with the hypertech.. I believe the hypertech advances the timing, the edge does both fuel and timing together, adding timing and timing together isn't a good thing... If you can find a fuel only chip it would work great.. Like me I run an edge ez (timing), and the older quadzilla xzillaraider which adds fuel only.

zach2 03-25-2011 06:42 PM

Okay. Makes sense. Can you tell me if the older Xzillaraider or similar is still available? The Hypertech is important to me because of speedo calibrations and diagnostics. And I already have it.

gpandlf 03-25-2011 07:07 PM

Nope they dont make it anymore..

1st_gen_puller 03-25-2011 07:27 PM

i ran hypertech and comp stacked forever... i relly loved it...

zach2 04-03-2011 10:44 AM

Talking with an Edge rep., I found that's right. Hypertech and Edge box aren't compatible. Both control timing. What do yall know about stacking Hypertech and TST, which I believe controls fueling? Then again, what else can anybody say about Hypertech (for speedo calibrations, timing,and diagnostics)and maybe 75hp injectors?


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