Smarty Question
 

Smarty sr. or Smarty jr. for 24v ???

I have the big Smarty, with the revo software, and I realy like it, seems to have a lot of features, has a decent amout of tuning options that are easy to understand and use. The Smarty may not add as much top end peak power as some of the other chips/tuners, but what it does add is 100% usable, off-idle power. Hope this helps u:tu:

What is the Revo software?

It alows you to adjust the tourque management, injection duration and injection timing, between 5 pre-set options for the tourque and timing, and 4 options for the duration.

oh alright:tu: So would you recommend a smarty or injectors first?

As long as you have enough fuel supply, I don't think it would make much difference which one you got first, but I think I would go with the Smarty first, for the extra features, such as code reading, speedo corection and such.

If you do go with the chip then make SURE the next upgrade you do is a better fuel pump to push that extra fuel. If you don't then eventually the stock lift pump will crap out and then the injector pump will follow suite. And that's a minimum 1000 dollar fix. Just in case you didn't already know. :tu:

there's only a "SR" for the VP crowd. The Jr. is for CR

Thats what I thought, but wasn't sure so I didn't want to say.

This may be a dumb question but what is VP and CR???:humm:

:argh: A VP is a model of injection pump that one may have on a 98.5 to 2002 Dodge. A CR is a common rail cummins because it has a CP3 Injection pump with a fuel rail. It is found on 2003 and later Cummins.

So my only option is a Smarty sr. Correct?

If you want to stick with Smarty it's your only option. If you want more power with gauges you've got some other options. You could go with an Edge Juice With Attitude with Hot unlock, I think you're looking at about 140 HP. Another option is a Quadzilla Adrenaline with PCM, this makes about 180 HP on top setting. It all depends on the brand you want or what you're looking for in performance and options.

The only reason i was leaning towards Smarty is because i've heard they were really safe, motor wise... Any advise or suggestions? Thanks

On a 2nd gen 24v id go with a smarty sr. for top end and a quazilla adrenaline with pulse for bottom end torque. Combine those and youll have a beast if your trans can handle it... :tu:

i've heard horror stories about stacking and would be a little weary about doing that... wbu

My quad doesn't do much for my truck under 2,000 rpm:w2: not sure why, It seems to really take off from there, maybe the fueling curve? :humm:

Thats strange:humm:

Had an 01 and it was an amazing stack. I loved it, but if you dont have the trans to back it up then beware, itll start slipping the first time you turn em on lol

And a tranny is not something an 18 yr old can afford to blow up!!! :argh:

Don't worry, a tranny is not something ANYONE can just blow up. Figure its a $3500 repair minimum...trans rebuild with good parts and a torque converter.:s:

Thats a bullet i do not want to bite!:nope:

your bacwards. Smarty is all bottom end on the VP and the quad picks up where the Smarty stops.

Where does the Smarty stop? hp and torque wise...

about 2200, 2300 rpm. It is 65 hp and 200 ft. lbs.

Oh wow thats it?:argh:

To which part?
65 hp is all you can get out of any programmer.

65 hp is all you can get??? Really:humm:

Yup

even with and edge of an adrenaline?

If it goes into the OBD port under the dash its 65 hp. at most, this includes edge ez. The only way to get more is to have a fueling box , like edge comp, quad adr, tst pm. Of those the most user friendly is the comp its just 3 buttons, 5 levels each with 5 sub levels, #2 is tst,#3 adr. Hope this helps you out!!! Been playing with motors for 29yrs. out of 43 I still love it!!!!:c:

I run the edge juice with attitude on my 99 and I like it over the smarty cause you change the power levels on the fly and it gives me all the gauges including egt I would highly recomend the edge. Ive also heard of problems with the quadzilla

What kind of problems with the quadzilla.I was about to buy one.

Screen going out alot and they have crappy service. Ive never ran one though but I like my edge quiet alot

Smarty Question
 

Why such little power out of these vp trucks? My smarty pod so6 I just got goes up to 170 but I got a CR though.

I would get a set of injectors before I would get a Smarty.

Mpo3 the reason your truck got so much more power because the pump on your truck pumps a hell of alot more pressure to the injectors then vp trucks do

been running one for a bit.. absolutly no problems so far.. ive heard of the older models having problems but ive had none... just be prepared to toast that auto tranny...the quad adr fuels REALLY hard...

ive run an edge Juice w/ Attitude and a blue chip FMS on the truck and the quad is by far my favorite