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jcrad 12-21-2010 11:41 PM

More Power!
 
I am fairly new to the cummins diesel. I've had mine for about a year now. I want some more power and would like to hear some ideas from you guys. I have an 01 cummins. I have a cold air intake, 100 hp nozzels, aftermarket intake manifold and a diablo power puck installed on it but its not good enough. Im still not getting the HP and torque and smoke that I want. Im thinking of an edge comp or juice and maybe doing away with the muffler and resonator. My questions are.... What should I do with the tranny to keep up with the torque? Are there any other mods I can make to give me more HP? I like black smoke. I have a vw diesel that runs on veggie oil, so Im doing my part for the environment and love smoking out electric cars. Thanks.

Lange503 12-21-2010 11:44 PM

if its a manual trans then get a clutch, if its auto then a torque converter and valve body, or just a fully built trans and not worry about it ever again... and ditch the power puck and pick up a smarty :tu:

jcrad 12-22-2010 10:32 AM

Its an auto trans. Im getting the trans built up. What about the smarty? Can one stack the smarty or any other programmer with the power puck?

DanLowe 12-22-2010 10:55 AM

First thing for your truck should be an aftermarket lift pump such as a FASS or Airdog. The next thing is a transmission upgrade like a Goerend built 47RE or Suncoast build because your tranny won't hold anymore power. The third thing is to be SMART about when smoking. Smoking is bad for our sport and everyone after me will tell you that "if you build it, smoke will come." I have a Quadzilla Adrenaline with PCM and if I want, I can black out an intersection, or I can get 22 MPG's, but you can't do both at the same time.

Lange503 12-22-2010 12:34 PM

you can stack it yeah, but you can get TNT tunes from them which goes up to 230 hp.... stacking is not needed nor wanted, plus it wouldn't help, but like said above get a fuel pump first, i have an airdog 150 and it works great

dontneedtostroke 12-22-2010 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Lange503 (Post 672532)
you can stack it yeah, but you can get TNT tunes from them which goes up to 230 hp.... stacking is not needed nor wanted, plus it wouldn't help, but like said above get a fuel pump first, i have an airdog 150 and it works great

Fairly certain you can only get Revo for the S-03... and how do you figure stacking wouldn't help?

i would run the smarty with an edge comp or tst pm3 comp....After getting the airdog/fass... doesnt pay to have the box if you cant keep up with fuel

jcrad 12-22-2010 01:36 PM

So the lift pump is a must? The vp44 and factory lift pump are fairly new. I already have the power puck. I was just wondering if I should go with a smarty or edge comp that would stack with the puck or just get rid of the puck? I want more power but I dont want to spend several thousand $$$.

dontneedtostroke 12-22-2010 01:39 PM

i personally would scrap the puck, but thats just me. throw a smarty or quad adrenaline on there and call 'er good

01cummins13 12-22-2010 01:51 PM

Air Dog or Fass is a must as stated before. And the smarty on the VP trucks itself only adds about 65 hp i believe. You can stack the Smarty with a Quadzilla or Edge Juice with attitude or the edge comp but the the box that taps the pump(quad, EJWA, Edge Comp) is what will give you the most hp upgrades.

RAW 12-22-2010 02:50 PM

A lift pump will save you several thousand dollars down the road if you install it first. You looking at a minimum of $1000 for a VP44, and if it keeps failing because $600 wasn't invested at the wrong time, it will be $1000 a few times. I too would remove your puck, and upgrade to a Quad Adrenaline, or Edge Juice with Attitude. Lots of power, plus gauges, alerts, turbo timer, and many more features. It will roll coal, if you think that's what you want. Personally I like clean power.

crzycummins 12-22-2010 02:56 PM

do you have gauges? fuel pressure pyro and trans are a must have.

jcrad 12-22-2010 08:51 PM

Ok. I need to beef the tranny(already in the works), then install gauges, then lift pump, and I can get a used edge comp for $250 from a friend. We'll see what that does. Any more advice. Thanks

moparious maximus 12-22-2010 10:42 PM

The Edge comp really is a good box, it wont fuel as hard as a Quad but it will make damn good power.

jcrad 12-23-2010 11:56 AM

lift pump
 
Hey Maximu. I noticed you have a couple raptor 150's. This is what I'm thinking of going with. Was the install hard? Are you still happy with them? Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? What kind of pressures are you running.?

moparious maximus 12-23-2010 03:34 PM

The raptor 150 pump.
 

Originally Posted by jcrad (Post 673199)
Hey Maximu. I noticed you have a couple raptor 150's. This is what I'm thinking of going with. Was the install hard? Are you still happy with them? Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? What kind of pressures are you running.?

The install was pretty simple if you dont mind getting a little dirty, yes we do have pressure gauges they both run between 15-18 psi idling and cruizing and maybe down to 9 at full fuel at WOT. The pressure does seem to flutuate some with fuel temprature but I bet any lift pump will see that.

We left both pumps regulators where the factory had them set so I'm sure it will make more pressure if you wanted it to.

dennhop 12-23-2010 03:39 PM

You know, I was converted...While the Edge Comp is a good box to start out with, I gotta say, the TST Comp kicks the crap out of the Edge, when it comes to performance. The fueling curve on the TST Comp is wicked, and it fuels waaay harder than the Edge ever did...But then it goes back to you need to have a built tranny and lift pump to handle it. just my 2 cents.

CoalTrain99 12-23-2010 03:45 PM

smarty with quadzilla xzt stack..lots of smoke:c:

jcrad 12-30-2010 10:52 PM

I need some more advice. What all should I have in my tranny to keep up with the Hp and torque. I have S&B CAI, Intake manifold, 100 HP nozzles, 150gph Raptor. I still havent decided which programmer to go with(im leaning toward quad adreneline with pulse or juice with attitude since i dont have gauges yet) and I dont know how much upgrading the tranny should get. Anyone know about how much HP and torque I'm gonna get with these mods and what to do with the tranny. My trans guy is telling me I need a triple disc converter, valve body and shafts totaling about $3200 for parts and labor. Does that sound about right? I didnt expect it to cost so much but I know nothing about transmissions.

RAW 12-30-2010 11:18 PM

If your looking to go into the high, high performance of a VP truck, then billet shafts are a damn good idea. Otherwise, a triple billet T/C and valve body will do you well. It is what I am running.

jake 94 12-30-2010 11:25 PM

He is rite on with the converter and vb but you don't need shafts unless you plan to get bigger injectors and a big turbo

cap 12-31-2010 04:48 AM

You might as well spend the money and get a real fass or airdog. besides the bigger filters are much better than the factory ones. I think it would save you money in the long run and its pretty much the same install as the raptor anyway. and with you not having gauges yet(especially fuel pressure) you run the risk of pushing the top off of the fuel filter canister. The canister can only take so much pressure before something gives. so why not just get rid of all that and go with a real airdog or fass system. trust me saves a lot of frustration in the end.

a4kcallaway 01-04-2011 08:34 PM

dud i have and edge atitude with juice and a smarty if you want power and smoke go with the smarty or do what i did and stack em

a4kcallaway 01-08-2011 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by dontneedtostroke (Post 672548)
Fairly certain you can only get Revo for the S-03... and how do you figure stacking wouldn't help?

i would run the smarty with an edge comp or tst pm3 comp....After getting the airdog/fass... doesnt pay to have the box if you cant keep up with fuel

if you want to save money and have good fuel pressure go to your nearest auto parts store and get a holly high performance fuel pump im running an edge attitude with juice and smarty stacked i leave cloud every where even if i dont try one problem is if your turbo will keep up

windsearcher 01-08-2011 04:11 PM

Definitely have to recommend the lift pump and a transmission upgrade. Not going to get into the details of exactly WHY you might want to do that before upgrading your hp...:argh: .... but strongly suggest you do it BEFORE you get stuck on the side of the road. Just sayin.....

Good luck with your upgrades.

arobertson 01-21-2011 11:03 AM

stacking chips is never a good idea. if you are gona buy a new one anyway get a big one. stacking chips can fry ecms and computers on the injector pump. there are a few chips that are compatable but make sure they are before you stack it. id hate to see you melt down a good truck:tu::tu:


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