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cummins-dodge 12-18-2010 09:06 PM

surging,jerking
 
when i start do accelerate hard the truck starts surging or jerking like the motor is missing with the edge box on 6 but if i turn it off it does not do it it is the quad cab truck the first one in my sig.





01 dodge quad cab 5spd 275000 miles cold air intake afe, cooler tubz, duel electric fans, airdog 150, edge juice att. hot unlock, schied lighting pump, .093 connector tubes, ats head studs, 300 hp injectors, s400 turbo and s300 twins, custom billet intake plate, cooling mist water meth injection, valair twin disc clutch 3850lb , 1 3/8 input shaft, south bend upgrade hydulics, duel 6 inch aussy stacks, 4 inch lift, eagle alloys, 35x12.50x16.5 bfg's, ranch hand front and rear bumpers, valair on board air with Siberian express train horns,
pulling stats.
hanks 4x4 3rd 282.56ft


01 dodge reg cab 5spd 275000 miles cold air intake afe, cooler tubz, single electric fan or i can put the stock clutch fan on, air dog 150 new 1 month old, stainless steal nerf bars, edge juice att. hot unlock, .093 connector tubes, valair single disc clutch, 4inch from turbo to duel 5 inch miter stacks, leveling kit, American racing wheels, 33x12.50x16.5 bfg's, ranch hand front and rear bumpers for sale

84 chevy k30 reg cab with 94 12v p pump cummins and nv4500 trans 205 transfer case 3 inch body lift, 6 inch suspension lift, 36x14.5x16.5 parnelli jones dirt grips, 16.5x12 weld scorpio wheels, dana 60 front, duramax rear axle, duramax intercooler, schied custom injection pump, 370 injectors that are extude honed bigger, o- ringed and head stud, marine lift pump, custom ground cam, cooling mist water meth. injection, valair twin disc clutch 3850lb , 1 3/8 input shaft, valair hydulic upgrade, industrial injection silver bullet 66 turbo, no fuel plate, single 5 inch miter cut stack
pulling stats
hanks 4x4 7th 256ft

92’ regular cab long-bed dodge power ram d250 Cummins automatic 4x4 truck. The truck has 220,000 miles on it, and 20,000 miles on the motor, and transmission.. The rebuilt motor has new pistons, bearings, crank, rods. The rebuilt transmission has new clutches, new overdrive gear, and new torque converter. The transfercase has new bearings in it and was done when the motor and trans was. The truck also has a new radiator, new red top optima battery, new starter, new rebuilt injection pump when motor was done, just turned up the pump and put a custom ground fuel pin in it, new steering box, new drag link, fresh gas tank straps, boost gauge, and 2 gauge-gauge pod, a two sizes bigger hx40 turbo, 5inch miter cut chrome stack, also has a dmi bumper and stock rear bumper with a newer reese hitch, new drivers door window switch, power locks, and a set of tires with 80% tread left that come with it also. Truck only needs upper balljoint on passenger side and the brakes bled, brakes work you just need to pump the pedal FOR SALE


03 honda rincon 650 1500 miles with 2 inch lift, 27 mudzillas, 1 1/2” rear wheel spacers, 1 inch front wheels spacers, hmf pipe, dynatek cdi, dynatek coil, k&n air filter, rejeted 170 main , spring clipped 8 coils, 5000 lb winch, heated grips, 14% gear reduction, 2 inch snorkel

95 yamaha warrior 350 bored out to 366, stage 2 hot cam, JE 85mm piston 12.5:1 compression, new rod, k&n air filter, white bros. pipe, bigger coil, performance cdi box, nerf bars, oil cooler mod, full skid plates, heavy duty racing clutch, jetted


07 Kawasaki klx250 on offroad bike moose air filter, fmf pipe mostly stock

prison 12-18-2010 09:09 PM

sounds like either your airdog is dying or you're ip is dying. btw that sig is long

H.R.D 12-18-2010 09:12 PM

I'm willing to bet its the edge jacking up on you. Mine did that for a while then it went completely hay wire. I would send it back to edge and have them check it out.

prison 12-18-2010 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by H.R.D (Post 670403)
I willing to bet its the edge jacking up on you. Mine did that for a while then it went completely hay wire. I would send it back to edge and have them check it out.

also a definite possibility. what is with these edge's it seems like a lot of people are having problems with them

cumminsman315 12-19-2010 11:58 AM

check your fuse in the fuse box under the hood, where the edge power wire taps too

yesterday i had a guy come in that was doin something very similar to what you described, and the problem was the fuse would move after he hit a bump and start surging, never had one do that before..his problem felt like you fell of the pedal then when it picked back up it would jerk forward hard enough to move your foot and do it over and over lol

so i chopped a little plastic out of the holder so the fuse jumper still lets the fuse sit tight and good as new

cummins-dodge 12-19-2010 05:53 PM

my airdog is holding at 17-20 psi and is a little over a year old and it didnt do it untill i put the bigger injectors in and it has gotten worse since it has gotten cold could it be that the injectors are so big and the fuel and timming that the edge box is putting to it the pump cant keep up because when i turn the box to 0 it dont do it so would a bigger pump fix the problem




01 dodge quad cab 5spd 275000 miles cold air intake afe, cooler tubz, duel electric fans, airdog 150, edge juice att. hot unlock, schied lighting pump, .093 connector tubes, ats head studs, 300 hp injector, s400 turbo and s300 twins, custom billet intake plate, cooling mist water meth injection, valair twin disc clutch 3850lb , 1 3/8 input shaft, south bend upgrade hydulics, duel 6 inch aussy stacks, 4 inch lift, eagle alloys, 35x12.50x16.5 bfg's, ranch hand front and rear bumpers, valair on board air with Siberian express train horns,
pulling stats.
hanks 4x4 3rd 282.56ft


01 dodge reg cab 5spd 275000 miles cold air intake afe, cooler tubz, single electric fan or i can put the stock clutch fan on, air dog 150 new 1 month old, stainless steal nerf bars, edge juice att. hot unlock, .093 connector tubes, valair single disc clutch, 4inch from turbo to duel 5 inch miter stacks, leveling kit, American racing wheels, 33x12.50x16.5 bfg's, ranch hand front and rear bumpers for sale

84 chevy k30 reg cab with 94 12v p pump cummins and nv4500 trans 205 transfer case 3 inch body lift, 6 inch suspension lift, 36x14.5x16.5 parnelli jones dirt grips, 16.5x12 weld scorpio wheels, dana 60 front, duramax rear axle, duramax intercooler, schied custom injection pump, 370 injectors that are extude honed bigger, o- ringed and head stud, marine lift pump, custom ground cam, cooling mist water meth. injection, valair twin disc clutch 3850lb , 1 3/8 input shaft, valair hydulic upgrade, industrial injection silver bullet 66 turbo, no fuel plate, single 5 inch miter cut stack
pulling stats
hanks 4x4 7th 256ft


03 honda rincon 650 1500 miles with 2 inch lift, 27 mudzillas, 1 1/2” rear wheel spacers, 1 inch front wheels spacers, hmf pipe, dynatek cdi, dynatek coil, k&n air filter, rejeted 170 main , spring clipped 8 coils, 5000 lb winch, heated grips, 14% gear reduction, 2 inch snorkel

95 yamaha warrior 350 bored out to 366, stage 2 hot cam, JE 85mm piston 12.5:1 compression, new rod, k&n air filter, white bros. pipe, bigger coil, performance cdi box, nerf bars, oil cooler mod, full skid plates, heavy duty racing clutch, jetted


07 Kawasaki klx250 on offroad bike moose air filter, fmf pipe mostly stock

ironhead79 12-20-2010 07:08 AM

jerking / surging.....
 
Mine does the exact same thing, are you getting any codes?:argh:

cummins-dodge 12-20-2010 08:08 PM

no i have not check for any codes yet

Rustin 12-20-2010 08:48 PM

Hmmm... Sounds like you not getting the fuel like you need. The Edge is wanting to add fuel, and the Trucks system is fighting it. Find out if you have any codes if not I would send the Edge in. Those things are starting to create problems. Hmmm.... I think I mentioned this in the beginning of the year. Or last year before the first ban.

Whit 12-20-2010 09:30 PM

I would say fuel delivery myself:humm:

PaleHROse 12-20-2010 09:38 PM

Level 6 sounds like a lot of hp....maybe your clutch/transmission grabbing/not grabbin trying to keep up?....:c:

kazairl 12-20-2010 09:54 PM

IMPOSSIBLE! Only Quad ADRs can make a truck surge! An Edge could never do such a thing!

kyle davis 12-20-2010 10:22 PM

my edge did this i unplugged it for a week and drove without then pugged it in and no more problems

ironhead79 12-20-2010 11:51 PM

EDGE = Quantity not Quality, about ready to sell it & get a smarty or xzt+. Anybody have any other idea's. And (NO) IM NOT GETTING AN ADR.

kazairl 12-20-2010 11:57 PM

The wonder box Dukeboy has been touting for a couple years?

springer 12-22-2010 07:39 AM

Mine has been doing this for years. As soon as the temp hear drops below 40* it starts to do it. I have sent it back to Edge several times and it still does it. If you have the box on 0 or stock truck runs fine if you turn it on 1-6 it starts to miss, mine only misses when you are under a load. Hope someone figures it out been bugging me for a while now. I've cleaned and checked all connections cleaned, battery terminals, cleaned the plugs for injectors, all of these Edge told me to do....still does it.

kazairl 12-22-2010 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by springer (Post 672393)
Mine has been doing this for years. As soon as the temp hear drops below 40* it starts to do it. I have sent it back to Edge several times and it still does it. If you have the box on 0 or stock truck runs fine if you turn it on 1-6 it starts to miss, mine only misses when you are under a load. Hope someone figures it out been bugging me for a while now. I've cleaned and checked all connections cleaned, battery terminals, cleaned the plugs for injectors, all of these Edge told me to do....still does it.


How do you clean the plugs for the injectors?

springer 12-22-2010 10:22 PM

Im not 100% sure if thats what the plugs are for. When I called and talked to Kelly at Edge (I dont think he works their any more). He told me that the 2 plugs that are located on the firewall on the drivers side right behind the motor had something to do with the injectors. So I took the apart and used electrical cleaner on them and put them back together. It dint help my surging at all and I dont know if thats what the plugs are for it's just what I was told.

kazairl 12-22-2010 10:44 PM

Ok I understand what your talking about now.

cummins-dodge 12-23-2010 02:38 PM

i checked the codes today and i got p1693 and p0500





01 dodge quad cab 5spd 275000 miles cold air intake afe, cooler tubz, duel electric fans, airdog 150, edge juice att. hot unlock, schied lighting pump, .093 connector tubes, ats head studs, 300 hp injector, s400 turbo and s300 twins, custom billet intake plate, cooling mist water meth injection, valair twin disc clutch 3850lb , 1 3/8 input shaft, south bend upgrade hydulics, duel 6 inch aussy stacks, 4 inch lift, eagle alloys, 35x12.50x16.5 bfg's, ranch hand front and rear bumpers, valair on board air with Siberian express train horns,
pulling stats.
hanks 4x4 3rd 282.56ft


01 dodge reg cab 5spd 275000 miles cold air intake afe, cooler tubz, single electric fan or i can put the stock clutch fan on, air dog 150 new 1 month old, stainless steal nerf bars, edge juice att. hot unlock, .093 connector tubes, valair single disc clutch, 4inch from turbo to duel 5 inch miter stacks, leveling kit, American racing wheels, 33x12.50x16.5 bfg's, ranch hand front and rear bumpers for sale

84 chevy k30 reg cab with 94 12v p pump cummins and nv4500 trans 205 transfer case 3 inch body lift, 6 inch suspension lift, 36x14.5x16.5 parnelli jones dirt grips, 16.5x12 weld scorpio wheels, dana 60 front, duramax rear axle, duramax intercooler, schied custom injection pump, 370 injectors that are extude honed bigger, o- ringed and head stud, marine lift pump, custom ground cam, cooling mist water meth. injection, valair twin disc clutch 3850lb , 1 3/8 input shaft, valair hydulic upgrade, industrial injection silver bullet 66 turbo, no fuel plate, single 5 inch miter cut stack
pulling stats
hanks 4x4 7th 256ft


03 honda rincon 650 1500 miles with 2 inch lift, 27 mudzillas, 1 1/2” rear wheel spacers, 1 inch front wheels spacers, hmf pipe, dynatek cdi, dynatek coil, k&n air filter, rejeted 170 main , spring clipped 8 coils, 5000 lb winch, heated grips, 14% gear reduction, 2 inch snorkel

95 yamaha warrior 350 bored out to 366, stage 2 hot cam, JE 85mm piston 12.5:1 compression, new rod, k&n air filter, white bros. pipe, bigger coil, performance cdi box, nerf bars, oil cooler mod, full skid plates, heavy duty racing clutch, jetted


07 Kawasaki klx250 on off road bike moose air filter, fmf pipe mostly stock

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ironhead79 12-23-2010 10:39 PM

those are the same codes i had, just changed my map sensor, so far so good !!

bcbigfoot 02-11-2011 12:25 PM

Ironhead any update on the new map sensor, still no surging? I have a similar problem (not as severe) with my Adrenaline and I don't tap the wire.

ironhead79 02-14-2011 10:07 AM

So far so good, seems like it fixed it. Just made a 2,700 mi. trip w no prob. !!:jump:


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