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kingbrad89 08-16-2010 08:37 PM

What injectors to go with
 
Ive been wanting to switch my hot running 150 jammers with something different. Thinking DDP 200's or Fireball 200's. Dont tow much, but looking to decrease my egt's, decrease spool time on the 64/71/14 BD Super B Special, and gain some power. Reason for this post, im curious about 370's or RV 275's... Dont know much about them or how they run and the benefits/downsides. Daily driver truck with the mods in my sig. Obviously the 275's or 370's are significant cheaper to do, just wondering if i would see my desired results with a setup like that. My main concern right now is spooling faster and running cooler. Its laggy and easily hits 1450 degrees at a short period of wide open throttle with no load. In the future i wouldnt mind hookin a sled once or twice but i could only imagine what the temps would be there... I dont wanna melt the 6th cylinder or something stupid all because of a :edit: injector. Suggestions? Thanks!

wyodiesel92 08-16-2010 10:54 PM

From what I understand you can't go wrong with fireballs or ddps. Personally I'm looking at the fireballs because of the price and from what I've heard they are a great injector, maybe rawilliams will chime in in, he's got the fireball 65s and if I remember right he said with them he has low smoke, better starting qand I believe someone with the 150s said better smoother idle also. I'm actually planning to run almost the identical setup to yours, the 150s with the edge and a super b and then a 4 inch exhaust straight piped or possibly 4 into 5 into 6 or 8 inch stacks with a high ram intake and 3 piece exhaust mani.:rocking:

24vmatt 08-16-2010 11:06 PM

Talk to luke @ DieselDawgs..I have heard good things about the fireballs, i dono anything about the bigdawgs.:c:

Farmboy 2.0 08-17-2010 01:20 AM

If I'm not mistaken rv275's are only 50 horsers. And 370's are twelve valve injectors. I just installed a set of custom honed industrial injections 220's super dragon flows which are awesome. Ddp's and II Injectors are basically the same injectors.

RAW 08-17-2010 08:21 AM

You bet! AS wyodiesel92 says I am really happy with my Fireball 65's, and when my S400 starts feeding my HX35, I'll be going with Fireball Pro 150's. Great customer service from Luke at Diesel Dawgs. There is no way I can get the same deal up in Canada, even after shipping.

Cummins Smoke 24v 08-17-2010 11:24 AM

what are RV injectors? do they come out of a cummins diesel RV lol???

wyodiesel92 08-17-2010 01:03 PM

I think they are either cummins rv injectors or just the nozzles. I'm sure a quick google search would tell you if someone else doesn't chime in.

kingbrad89 08-17-2010 01:53 PM

What injectors to go with
 
Ok cool. And farmboy thx for lettin me know what horse. That's kinda what I was gettin at. I have no idea what rating those injectors are. Maybe I'll do fireball 200's.

Farmboy 2.0 08-17-2010 02:04 PM

Yes rv 275's are out of an rv with a cummins in it. Yeah i think you would like the 200's in your truck. I love my 220's but my 62 is to small now. But my truck wont go over 1350 egts wise.

wyodiesel92 08-17-2010 02:25 PM

Sounds like compounds are in order now:rocking: I don't think id go with anything bigger than 150s using a single turbo. Too much smoke and too much fuel with not enough air. There is too many people in my town who are so obsessed with smoke that they hurt their engines and don't make the power they could if they had proper air flow. Personally I like smoke but not a ton, the smoke I get with my edge on level 5 with my stock turbo is plenty in my opinion. Around here you see more trucks anymore that are all blow and no go, I mean they are faster than my truck obviously but I even raced a guy and he had edge with injectors on a stock turbo and I kept up with him, he just blew tons of smoke throughout the entire powerband. Looks cool and make prius drivers mad but just seems like a waste. Id rather have a well running fast low smoke truck than a truck that blows tons of smoke and doesn't live up to its potential

Farmboy 2.0 08-17-2010 06:09 PM

Yeah i dont drive around with my edge on. But if you buy 200's i would suggest going the twin route. I have a set of twins sitting in my shop i just need to nut up and buy the rest of the parts and put them on.

RAW 08-17-2010 08:40 PM


Sounds like compounds are in order now
Agreed on that, doing it myself. Not TWINS though, no need for TWO TURBOS THE EXACT SAME feeding the engine. More is gained from COMPOUNDS.

kingbrad89 08-19-2010 09:25 PM

What injectors to go with
 
I agree on the smoke thing. I'm getting sick of the amount of smoke those jammers put out while they're having a hard time spooling the turbo. I'm not doing compounds right now. It's completely out of the question. Not enough money. I thought I may pick up some spool time by going with 200's over 150's. The jammer 150's are just not spooling that turbo... And it's hotttt

wyodiesel92 08-19-2010 11:04 PM

You may benefit more from fireball 150s than edge 150s but I'm not sure, I just hear jammers are a shit injector though

RAW 08-19-2010 11:06 PM

Jammers run HOT and smokey, that what I have heard from many people. I think they are only 6 hole as well, as the Fireballs are 7.

00CumminsMan 08-20-2010 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by RAWilliams (Post 608238)
Jammers run HOT and smokey, that what I have heard from many people. I think they are only 6 hole as well, as the Fireballs are 7.

Agreed. i have the 150 jammers and adrenline and it put alot of smoke out, and got hot lik egt's over 1400 sometime's. i have stock turbo to. i ran this setup for almost 2 months and burnt up acouple of exhuast valve's.

kingbrad89 08-21-2010 12:34 PM

What injectors to go with
 
Yeah. See I run about 800-1050 cruising on the highway with no load depending on the grade. Slight uphill just cruising about 70mph in usually knocking on 1100's door. Get on it hard and i see 1500 in 3 seconds... I need to ditch those injectors. And I thought the jammers were 8 hole... I'll check

kingbrad89 08-21-2010 12:35 PM

What injectors to go with
 
Yeah they're 8 hole


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