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zeismaster 03-22-2010 12:25 PM

Grid Heater delete
 
if you get a high ram intake is it ok to not get a grid heater delete piece and just leave the grid heater in?

Deezel Stink3r 03-22-2010 01:06 PM

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"Diesel respond extremly well to increases in the density of the intake charge, so when you increase the mass flow through the engine, you increase power"

If you improve airflow with wide gentle turns(high ram intake) and bends lower than 10°degree you increase power.
A grid heater acts restrictive. I also read about claims to gain 0.5 psi boost pressure with the delete- but I don't know about that.

But I know for sure that a better, smoother intake with gentle bends increases power.

Before you delete the grid heater try out the difference- you can't go wrong!
Just compare the stock and banks picture of the intake. Can you see the difference? The banks head widens like a cobra and provides smooth turns.

MUSCLE1 03-27-2010 01:43 PM

take a look at the wilson thrasher intake and plate big opening the plate and horn for around $500 it has a30% larger opening just google it? look nice

Dr. Evil 03-27-2010 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by zeismaster (Post 521572)
if you get a high ram intake is it ok to not get a grid heater delete piece and just leave the grid heater in?

Save your money on the Banks high ram. On a second gen 24V - its mainly a decoration. Makes a much bigger difference on a third gen Cummins.

jkidd 03-27-2010 09:46 PM

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Get one of these instead. more air to cylinders 1,5&6 check out the last picture you will see the casting on the motor that is a huge restriction. I have them for 98-02 and a different model for 03-07:tu:

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turbo20psi 03-27-2010 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by jkidd (Post 525453)
Get one of these instead. more air to cylinders 1,5&6 check out the last picture you will see the casting on the motor that is a huge restriction. I have them for 98-02 and a different model for 03-07:tu:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...sidebyside.jpg
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...one-no-bkd.jpg
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...stockplate.jpg
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a..._withlines.jpg

How much are those big boys?

RAW 03-28-2010 08:31 AM

Are different delivery lines required with this setup? :humm:

jkidd 03-28-2010 01:58 PM

Uses stock lines.

Here is more info.

https://www.dieselbombers.com/diesel...tml#post525693

giant870 04-19-2010 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by jkidd (Post 525453)
Get one of these instead. more air to cylinders 1,5&6 check out the last picture you will see the casting on the motor that is a huge restriction. I have them for 98-02 and a different model for 03-07:tu:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...sidebyside.jpg
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...one-no-bkd.jpg
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...stockplate.jpg
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a..._withlines.jpg

I would recommend one of these to anyone. I noticed there was more power, the turbo spooled faster, and there was defiantly less smoke. I am sure there the temp dropped, but I was having some problems my pyro at the time so I don't have anything to compair it to.:tu:

Hammer 04-19-2010 08:21 AM

There is zero HP gained from deleting the grid heaters.We have done back to back dyno runs with and without them and seeen no difference in HP/Tq.

Be careful of what intake horns you buy also as there are some out there that will cost you power and some that will only lighten your wallet and are more of a ornamental item.

jkidd 05-04-2010 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 540739)
There is zero HP gained from deleting the grid heaters.We have done back to back dyno runs with and without them and seeen no difference in HP/Tq.

Be careful of what intake horns you buy also as there are some out there that will cost you power and some that will only lighten your wallet and are more of a ornamental item.

This is not a grid heater delete. Although you could get rid of yours if you want. This works like porting the intake side of your head and lowers restrictions.

kingbrad89 10-04-2010 08:24 PM

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[QUOTE=jkidd;525453]Get one of these instead. more air to cylinders 1,5&6 check out the last picture you will see the casting on the motor that is a huge restriction. I have them for 98-02 and a different model for 03-07:tu:

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Hey J Kidd, PM me the cost of one of these bad boys! :tu:

And andy, I run mine with the heater

PLMCRZY 10-04-2010 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by jkidd (Post 525453)
Get one of these instead. more air to cylinders 1,5&6 check out the last picture you will see the casting on the motor that is a huge restriction. I have them for 98-02 and a different model for 03-07:tu:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...sidebyside.jpg
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...one-no-bkd.jpg
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...stockplate.jpg
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a..._withlines.jpg

Have you seen the bottom of the intake that is on the side of the head? I dont know how this tunnel ram thing would get anymore air to 1,5 and 6? Its not the top of the intake that is restricting air, its the bottom of the intake the ports block half of the cylinder ports on 1 and 6.

RAW 10-04-2010 09:34 PM

I guess by having more clearance on top, there is more volume in the intake, allowing more air to flow. The Tunnel Ram doesn't have all that "X" and square pattern all the way down causing turbulence either. Never held one, but thats my guess from the pictures.

PLMCRZY 10-04-2010 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by RAWilliams (Post 631494)
I guess by having more clearance on top, there is more volume in the intake, allowing more air to flow. The Tunnel Ram doesn't have all that "X" and square pattern all the way down causing turbulence either. Never held one, but thats my guess from the pictures.

So slighty more air. The ports are still blocked.....

RAW 10-04-2010 09:48 PM

Thats the point, more air! :rocking:

Turbolvr 10-05-2010 06:33 PM

The Tunnel Ram is NOT a replacement for porting the head. It is but one of the easier/cheaper (<$300.) things that will increase the balance/flow to the engine without pulling the head and milling off the intake to properly address the ports (>$2000.)
Most guys running decent boost have also blown the paper gasket under the stock cast plenum cover, so when you have to pull that corroded restrictive flat plate off, may as well put something on that not only looks much better, but will work better too! And unlike some bombs that may raise EGTs or produce less power under the curve, the Tunnel Ram has been shown to broaden the curve, and thats something you can enjoy EVERY time you drive your truck!:tu:

jkidd 10-06-2010 01:02 AM

getting HP is cheap (fuel), keeping it cool and driveable is expensive. Tunnel Ram intake plate is a good bang for the buck.:rocking:

big bad diesel 416 10-06-2010 01:57 AM

I would vote for this for the price you cant beat it I have hours and hours into building one for my truck now that I am done with it I would have been better off buying one from Jacob here PM me a price as well Jacob got another rig to run one on :argh:

jkidd 10-06-2010 11:22 AM

Sure thing Brice

kingbrad89 10-06-2010 12:50 PM

Hey Jkidd PM me that price too. I really need to cool things down big time

Smoke 'em 03-02-2011 04:34 PM

Jkidd, what r ur thoughts on the tunnel ram dual intake??

proflow 04-27-2011 04:48 PM

New guy gets best price
 

Originally Posted by kingbrad89 (Post 632335)
Hey Jkidd PM me that price too. I really need to cool things down big time

Me too !!! Jkidd ,
Also ATS 3-piece exhaust manifold, ATS intake & 12mm ARP head studs please !

Thanks---Proflow

jkidd 04-27-2011 04:50 PM

The dual intake will not have much more benefit than the tunnel ram.

Turbolvr 04-27-2011 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by jkidd (Post 746173)
The dual intake will not have much more benefit than the tunnel ram.

Not to mention it wont fit a 24v without custom injection lines.

KillStroker 04-27-2011 06:47 PM

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