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24v'd_Fury 05-13-2009 11:07 PM

Fass,Airdog,Ect...?
 
First off I wanna say I just got the truck, its an 01 2500, extra cab 8' bed automatic 4x4
Of course I wanna make it quick and go to diesel events this summer where I live but first I am going to do basic maintenance to get the truck perfect and get familiar with my first diesel I actually own. Second I wanted to get guages and mostly a fuell pressure guage and "alarm" for low FP. Than before the "cool" stuff I was going to get an aftermarket LP this way when I add power I can actually handle it without blowin the vp44.
My questions are...should I get the LP or the LP/Filters? Can I add the fuel/water seperator on the LP if I buy just the LP for now? What way would you go as in buy them together or no? Lastly, what brand and what site/vendor do you deal with?

Thanks for the help!!!

Fishin2Deep4U 05-14-2009 03:02 AM

If you want a simple reliable system, you don't need the system with the filters. You have a good filtering element right now and the filter changes are easy. However, some guys do prefer the full systems and I do understand that as well.

The prices are about as low as they are gonna get. So your timing is right.

I would not worry about a fuel pressure alarm. They are not all that accurate and most guys watch the gauges that are in the truck, so no sense in doubling up.

And who do I deal with? Vulcan of course! But I think the reason for that one is obvious. :w2:


Dave

24v'd_Fury 05-14-2009 06:19 AM

Ok thanks, I'll probably just get the FP guage and the LP with the filters. I'll check out Vulcan. Thanks!

01quadcab 05-14-2009 10:54 AM

If your going to get a programmer get a edge juice with attitude or a quadzilla adrenaline as they both have gauges including a fuel pressure gauge. This option is less than buying a programmer and mechanical gauges.

turbomar 05-14-2009 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by 01quadcab (Post 337726)
If your going to get a programmer get a edge juice with attitude or a quadzilla adrenaline as they both have gauges including a fuel pressure gauge. This option is less than buying a programmer and mechanical gauges.

x2:yeah:

cummins army 05-14-2009 12:46 PM

i just bought an air dog 150 with the filters i dealt with diesel dawgs luke there is great and will help you out and right now air dog is on sale and the 100 and the 150 are the same price and you still get the lifetime warranty as long as you pay map price just make sure you pay map price so you get the warranty and for guages i am running the quadzilla scout nice set up easy install and welcome to diesel bombers

24v'd_Fury 05-14-2009 11:37 PM

Thanks all for the feedback, was lookin at the Quadzilla with Pulse but need to know if it has a FP guage because thats one I really wanted along with the 3 other needed ones. I heard the guages on the chips monitors arent as accurate as mechanicle guages....?
Also when looking at LP's I saw 150/150 I asuume the first 150 is the GPH but the second? I also saw things like 150/100 ect.
Just wondering the right pump to buy, was going to get a 150GPH
Will check diesel dawgs too, thanks

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rkadcock 05-15-2009 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by 24v'd_Fury (Post 337947)
Thanks all for the feedback, was lookin at the Quadzilla with Pulse but need to know if it has a FP guage because thats one I really wanted along with the 3 other needed ones. I heard the guages on the chips monitors arent as accurate as mechanicle guages....?
Also when looking at LP's I saw 150/150 I asuume the first 150 is the GPH but the second? I also saw things like 150/100 ect.
Just wondering the right pump to buy, was going to get a 150GPH
Will check diesel dawgs too, thanks

The first number is the model and the second is the GPH

24v'd_Fury 05-15-2009 10:10 AM

Oh ok, would it be ok if I run a 150ghp till I add a tuner and other extra's?
Do I need to worry about too much FP?
I would like to get the best pump I can so I have that taken care of so when I add the tuner it can handle it...

Uncle Bubba 05-15-2009 10:20 AM

As long as you run a an inline regulator you can run all the extra fuel you want, the extra just returns back to the tank.

01quadcab 05-15-2009 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by 24v'd_Fury (Post 337947)
Thanks all for the feedback, was lookin at the Quadzilla with Pulse but need to know if it has a FP guage because thats one I really wanted along with the 3 other needed ones. I heard the guages on the chips monitors arent as accurate as mechanicle guages....?
Also when looking at LP's I saw 150/150 I asuume the first 150 is the GPH but the second? I also saw things like 150/100 ect.
Just wondering the right pump to buy, was going to get a 150GPH
Will check diesel dawgs too, thanks

I know the boost is off on my edge compared to the mechanical one I installed but the fuel pressure and pyrometer don't get their readings from the map sensor they have their own senders that go in place and read back to the monitor. I am not sure how accurate they are but they should be close enough. Might as well start out big with your lift pump and it will always supply you with what you need. I wish I would of gone with the 150 instead of the 95 on my fass.

24v'd_Fury 05-16-2009 11:12 PM

Yea I'll just throw an inline regulater in and and get the Airdog 150.
I'm probably going to do my own muffler delet, BHAF and silencer delete till I get the cash for the rest. I'm coming out of the Jeep and rock crawler scene and this is my first personal diesel so I'm exited to hook her up!
Thanks for the help!!!

Diesel Dawgs Performance 05-16-2009 11:25 PM

Get the Airdog 150 and you will be fine. It will return all unused fuel to the Tank.



Luke

Fishin2Deep4U 05-17-2009 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by 24v'd_Fury (Post 338610)
Yea I'll just throw an inline regulater in and and get the Airdog 150.
I'm probably going to do my own muffler delet, BHAF and silencer delete till I get the cash for the rest. I'm coming out of the Jeep and rock crawler scene and this is my first personal diesel so I'm exited to hook her up!
Thanks for the help!!!

No need for a regulator. The fuel pump has one built in.

Dave

24v'd_Fury 06-04-2009 08:55 AM

I cant find a thread on an airdog install, does anyone know of a place I can fint one? Or does it come with instructions?

Depending on how long it takes I may do it in my driveway so the shop where I work doesnt get mad..

Diesel Dawgs Performance 06-04-2009 01:13 PM

They all come with detailed instructions.

oklahoma_6speed 06-09-2009 05:16 PM

make sure you run some of the fuel out of it... youll have to drop the tank... and it is a blast.... block off the return line and you will get more fuel































just kidding on the return line

24v'd_Fury 06-09-2009 11:21 PM

yea I was going to do that when it comes time to install it, was hoping just to lower the tank alittle to run the return rather than fully dropping it

I'll run the return under my seat so I can have "cooled" seats:argh:

Uncle Bubba 06-09-2009 11:23 PM

See if this helps ya to drop the tank. https://www.dieselbombers.com/24-val...-easy-way.html

24v'd_Fury 06-10-2009 10:28 PM

yes it does thank you!!
cant wait to get it and put it in.

Rooster24v 06-12-2009 09:32 AM

also you could raise the box of the truck off of the frame... if you really wanted to... we just dropped the tank, just make sure you syphon most of the fuel out of there 1st it can get kind of heavy! i noticed that with this new airdog and filters im getting 2-3 mpg better on the highway!! no lie!!
also i bypassed the stock fuel filter on the engine too. hope this helps!

Uncle Bubba 06-12-2009 09:50 AM

If you drop the tank it also gives you a chance to clean it out after you check for crusties in there. Sometimes they can be pretty nasty and other times they re spotless but this gives ya the chance to know one way or other.

Personally I got rid of the stock filter canister for a few years and then put it back. Once you take it out you also lose the fuel heater and water in fuel sensor and if you get some bad fuel and that WIF sensor is unplugged your gonna pay a price so I ended up puttin it back. No right and wrong here, just personal preference.

24v'd_Fury 06-13-2009 07:27 AM

Do the instructions show you how to and how to not bypass the filter?
I'm probably going to keep it.
Also, it may be a stupid question but what happens to my stock lift pump when the airdogs in? is it just sitting there doing nothing?

turbo20psi 06-13-2009 09:41 PM

You don't need it (Stock pump) I remove mine or you can keep it bolted up your choice. Your air dog filters the fuel now. The instructions tell you not to use the stock filter at all as this would add restriction to pressure . As for water in the fuel and diesel geling in the tank if you use a good ( name brand fuel station ) you are ok. If you you need to add a aditive to feel better so be it just personal perference. :pca1:

24v'd_Fury 06-16-2009 07:33 AM

I should get it today so I'll hopwfully look at the instructions and get to have time to install it at work if its slow.
I always use BP fuel so I should be ok but I dont wanna need fuel and be somewhere where there is no BP.
My BP sucks, there's no b-20 or anything cool, just regular diesel...

24v'd_Fury 06-18-2009 09:44 AM

Got my airdog today, the insructions say take out the filter, does that mean just take it out of the canister? Also, what kind of threadlock approved for diesel fuel did you guys use?
And what is the best way to get to the vp44 to hook up the lines?
Thanks!

Diesel Dawgs Performance 06-20-2009 07:22 PM

Bypass the stock fuel canister.

24v'd_Fury 06-20-2009 08:10 PM

Yea I did during install, I worked myself up over nothing Airdog is such a great kit and easy to install, I love how my truck feels now and cant wait to get my tuner

Any idea where to hook up my fuel pressure guage from?
My kit from Luke came with this silver canister with female npt threads on it with 1 arrow showing fuel to guage, thats about as far I got during install.


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