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nosparkCummins 03-18-2009 08:42 PM

AirDog? FASS? MITUSA?
 
So today I got back from hauling my little trailer and... My lift pump took a crap on me. So now I have 3psi. Now it's time to fix it. I know I can always get a stock replacement.

So I'm torn between going with a FASS or Airdog

or

A MITUSA pump or something like this:U:
Glacier Diesel Power - Product List

My only problem is that the mechanical pump uses your stock pump to "prime" it or whatever.

So Guys what should I do. This is my Daily Driver. I do tow a lot too.:choochoo:
thanks a lot

busta 03-18-2009 09:01 PM

Had an air dog 150 on my 99 and it ran good with the adrenaline w/pulse
ya also can`t beat lifetime warranty:U:
I don`t know much about the fass but hear they are a little noisy

wtfd6 03-18-2009 09:09 PM

Airdog:U:

nosparkCummins 03-18-2009 09:14 PM

Airdog:2
Fass:0
MITUSA:0

I like the idea of a mechanical pump I've always ran one on my other cars. (14:1 540 btw)

wt_offroad 03-18-2009 10:08 PM

x3 AirDog, lift time warranty, big lines come with 150 kit, fass 95 same price as the 150, less noise than the fass. I really like my 150.:w2:

01quadcab 03-18-2009 10:45 PM

I vote fass just me though as fass supports events all over around me and are awesome to deal with. at the nor cal rally last year he was crawling around helping many people with issues they had and making sure all was taken care of no matter what.

nosparkCummins 03-18-2009 10:57 PM

I guess I'm starting to lean towards the Fuel Boss system. I've been talking to the guy and he said it would be perfect for me. He also said that you don't even need the stock pump, most people unhook them. Only thing is the guys in state so they tag me with tax.

Diesel Dawgs Performance 03-19-2009 01:38 AM

For the $$$ Can't go wrong with either the FASS or Airdog. Lifetime Warranty on both.


Luke :U:

Uncle Bubba 03-19-2009 01:41 AM

First off I love the the Glacier Diesel Mechanical pump I have and I have never had an electric pump since I installed this thing some years back. I have full pressure within a second of start up no problem. I will never by choice go back to an electric motor pump.

Now that being said, what Glacier is selling is not the real MITUSA Pump. It is a copy. The real MITUSA Pump is marketed by the man that spent years on research and development of the design and went through many changes before he opened it up to the public. You can find it here. Learn more about our high performance diesel products!

Don't take this the wrong way, what Rich is selling at Glacier is a good product and his after the sale service is great so I'm not knockin him in any way but credit has to be given to the man that spent years workin on it and that is Opie.

nosparkCummins 03-19-2009 12:36 PM

Yah Opie has the real Mitusa pump. he just a few min. north of where I live. The only problem is that he doesn't have a retail store so he can avoid taxes and all that other stuff.


Could a clogged Fuel filter be causing some of my problem?

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So I fired the truck up this morning, just cause i'm curious to see if it was still pulling 3 psi. to my suprise a rock solid 7 psi:c::booo: i took it around the block and fuel pressure stayed above 5psi. I went and got a fuel filter and tomorrow i'm going to change it and see if that helps.

For now my parents let me borrow there truck (1997 cummins) till I can save up some money and not put the pump on my credit card.

Uncle Bubba 03-19-2009 01:29 PM

If your runnin the stock pump still they will hold pressure intermittently when they are just going bad, you just can't count on em to keep that pressure. So ya it's common to have that happen until one day it will just die for good.

Just curious though as to where your pressure guage is, can you see it the whole time your driving. If not then you need to make it so you can. I have had pumps hold 20 psi while I was sittin in one spot but take it on the road and hit the go pedal and they go right to 0.

nosparkCummins 03-19-2009 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Bubba (Post 308122)
If your runnin the stock pump still they will hold pressure intermittently when they are just going bad, you just can't count on em to keep that pressure. So ya it's common to have that happen until one day it will just die for good.

Just curious though as to where your pressure guage is, can you see it the whole time your driving. If not then you need to make it so you can. I have had pumps hold 20 psi while I was sittin in one spot but take it on the road and hit the go pedal and they go right to 0.

its on the pillar just below my boost gauge:rocking: I'll probably put my Glacier diesel order in next week or so

Rooster24v 03-19-2009 04:01 PM

I just got my Airdog hooked up, I really like it.. nice and quiet. Go for the Airdog!:U:

Fishin2Deep4U 03-19-2009 04:10 PM

The original diesel belt drive is the RASP by DTT. But all the pumps have the same issue, they wear in the front bushing causing leaks eventually. This is why I did not go that way. I have seen a much better design, but it just has not seen the light of day yet.

I am running a 12V mechanical pump, but any setup that requires or could require the use of 2 pumps seems silly to me. Why buy an aftermarket pump if you have to rely on the stocker for any use??

Just my thoughts.

Dave

Uncle Bubba 03-19-2009 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Fishin2Deep4U (Post 308172)
The original diesel belt drive is the RASP by DTT. But all the pumps have the same issue, they wear in the front bushing causing leaks eventually. This is why I did not go that way. I have seen a much better design, but it just has not seen the light of day yet.

I am running a 12V mechanical pump, but any setup that requires or could require the use of 2 pumps seems silly to me. Why buy an aftermarket pump if you have to rely on the stocker for any use??

Just my thoughts.

Dave

The MITUSA is the updated version of the RASP, all deigned and R&D by the same group a guys.

DDT was doing the marketing for Opie, but Opie has since started his own site and is selling them through it. I tried to buy the pump through DDT but he was impossible to get a hold of, that's how I ended up with the pump from Rich. Would have rather bought the real one but had to have one to get the truck rollin again and time wasn't allowing me to wait for the other.

Fishin2Deep4U 03-19-2009 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Bubba (Post 308182)
The MITUSA is the updated version of the RASP, all deigned and R&D by the same group a guys.

DDT was doing the marketing for Opie, but Opie has since started his own site and is selling them through it. I tried to buy the pump through DDT but he was impossible to get a hold of, that's how I ended up with the pump from Rich. Would have rather bought the real one but had to have one to get the truck rollin again and time wasn't allowing me to wait for the other.

The story is told differently on the other end. But it's neither here nor there. They all have the same design.

Dave

bigjon 03-20-2009 11:11 AM

3 of my buddys have air dogs they love it. 2 of them had fass before hand and said it was ok but there were a couple things they didnt like about. they also said air dogs has 1 or 2 parts in it system that fass doesnt to make it better ill try and find out more info.

1999 Sport Cummins 03-20-2009 11:21 AM

I would go With Fass... My stepdad has one on his 01 dodge and it works great:U:.... pluse when you get a aftermarket pump it reduces ur chance of your injector pump going out witch are about $1000 to $2000 But i dont know much about the other two listed

nosparkCummins 03-20-2009 01:00 PM

Ok guys I changed my Fuel filter today and that seemed to help a little. I think the old filter was clogged. I still have 7psi, it just doesn't dip as much.

I got ahold of Opie @ Intelligent Engineering. I told him I'm having a hard time finding somewhere that stock the Mitusa pump. He said that a lot of places don't stock them as there isn't much profit in them. I'm waiting on a reply but hopefully i'll be able to pick one up from him.

stkdram55 03-20-2009 01:03 PM

your workin on borrowed time at 7 psi get that thing fixed quick or your gonna be buying a new IP:argh:

nosparkCummins 03-20-2009 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by stkdram55 (Post 308800)
your workin on borrowed time at 7 psi get that thing fixed quick or your gonna be buying a new IP:argh:

I only drove it around the block today to see if the filter helped. I'm using my parents truck as a daily driver for right now

Mr.Krabs 03-28-2009 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Fishin2Deep4U (Post 308172)
The original diesel belt drive is the RASP by DTT. But all the pumps have the same issue, they wear in the front bushing causing leaks eventually. This is why I did not go that way. I have seen a much better design, but it just has not seen the light of day yet.

I am running a 12V mechanical pump, but any setup that requires or could require the use of 2 pumps seems silly to me. Why buy an aftermarket pump if you have to rely on the stocker for any use??

Just my thoughts.

Dave

That's funny,I've got a pile of miles on my belt drive and never had a leak yet,about 250k on it I guess.
I think most people get the belt too dang tight.

dirtyOl'B 04-02-2009 09:00 PM

Had a fass for about three years worked fine till on day the motor on it just quit. Called them about the warranty and some how they miss placed my info for it. got a holly blue and a inline filter now for about $150 18 psi and plenty ov volume.

nosparkCummins 04-15-2009 12:19 AM

Just an update. I got ahold of Opie when he was out of town on a job. He said about mid April. well... I got ahold of him he's setting me up with a MITUSA pump. Its substantially less than the Airdog, and he is going to deliver and help me install it. He's pretty stand up guy if you ask me

Uncle Bubba 04-15-2009 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by nosparkCummins (Post 323934)
Just an update. I got ahold of Opie when he was out of town on a job. He said about mid April. well... I got ahold of him he's setting me up with a MITUSA pump. Its substantially less than the Airdog, and he is going to deliver and help me install it. He's pretty stand up guy if you ask me

Can't ask for better then that.:U::c: Now if we could just get him to be a vendor on here and active on the site.

nosparkCummins 04-18-2009 02:44 PM

Well Opie came down this morning and Helped me put the MITUSA in and all I can say is WOW its so simple. Drove the truck and now my problem is its too easy to hit the de-fueling spot. Guess its time for a box:5::rocking:

Oh BTW it make 17psi at idle and doesn't go any lower:choochoo::U::c:

stkdram55 04-18-2009 02:46 PM

:U:

Uncle Bubba 04-18-2009 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by nosparkCummins (Post 325555)
Well Opie came down this morning and Helped me put the MITUSA in and all I can say is WOW its so simple. Drove the truck and now my problem is its too easy to hit the de-fueling spot. Guess its time for a box:5::rocking:

Oh BTW it make 17psi at idle and doesn't go any lower:choochoo::U::c:

That's the best part of these pumps. As opposed to a normal electric motor pump that is at it's highest psi at idle, where you need it the least. These belt drive pumps are at their lowest psi at idle and go higher as the truck RPM's climb, giving the extra psi when you need it most under load.

Opie 04-19-2009 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by Fishin2Deep4U (Post 308245)
The story is told differently on the other end. But it's neither here nor there. They all have the same design.

Dave

Please fill us in on the other end then. This story is can be right here and now. IMHO Your going to get caught in yet another lie again Dave.

Uncle Bubba 04-19-2009 04:42 AM

Hey Opie, glad to see ya here for first hand info. It's hard to get new ideas excepted out here in the real world and we need some first hand info to spread the word on these pumps. greatest hidden improvement out there for our trucks as far as I'm concerned but we need some help to get the idea excepted.

Again thanks for comin by, hope ya make it a habit.:c:

KSStew 04-19-2009 10:51 AM

I bought the FASS 95, but still havent' been able to get it installed. I do have a question though, with the FASS 95, will it solve my fuel pressure problem I have when I stomp the pedal? I noticed on the edge monitor, when I drop the hammer, my fuel pressure drops to 0 and the buzzer goes NUTS! Will the FASS solve that and do I need anything else for installation, or what FASS sends enough?

01quadcab 04-19-2009 11:56 AM

your fuel pressure should be fine. Mine drops 1psi from what it has at idle.

KSStew 04-19-2009 09:56 PM

So until the FASS, which by the way should be in this week, but until then, I am good? NO permenant damage to worry of? Will the other pump need altered or will it plus the FASS fump pump be fine together?

stkdram55 04-19-2009 10:00 PM

you could take out your Injection pump, thats bad...$1000 dollars too by the way for a new one...take it easy and keep that PSi as high you can until you get your FASS, if you can dont drive the truck but i know that aint always a option in this world

01quadcab 04-19-2009 10:40 PM

the fass is a stand alone fuel pump it doesn't use the stocker at all.

Uncle Bubba 04-20-2009 12:27 AM

Just to be sure that everybody understands what I'm sayin here about this mechanical pump. I'm a die hard believer in it and that's a fact. But that's not saying that either the FASS or Airdog will not do everything you need. They are both great pumps in their own right I just don't have faith in any electric motor pump anymore.

You won't be disappointed with any of the three.

Opie 04-21-2009 01:00 AM

I should agree with Unkle Bubba but mechanical pumps are boreing. They are too quite, the most effiecent, flow more, last way too long, and are just plain too simple. So basically they are no fun as they don't need warrantee so you don't get to change them out every two year$ like you get to for the always getting prettier, always growing higher in flow ratings electric pumps. Well thats my opinion anyway. Besides mechincal pumps are all sleepers and others out in town can't hear that you have modded your truck like they can with most the electrics. :humm: Perhaps if the pulleys were modded with spokes we could use cards with clothes line clips to make them louder like we did on our bikes back in the old days.

cashwheel 04-21-2009 10:27 AM

:lol88: thats pretty good Opie, by the way I emailed you the other day, I'm ready to order, would you pm me your contact info please sir.

nosparkCummins 04-21-2009 12:33 PM

Glad to see you on here Opie. I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pleased with my Mitusa pump. My only problem is now I want more power. I have a steady platform now, I'm starting to think injectors:yeah:

Mr.Krabs 04-21-2009 07:48 PM

Exactly what I think Opie,I've got a pile of miles on my mechanical pump,still working good,if it broke tomorrow I'd just buy another just like it.


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