need programmer info please
 

ok im looking for a programmer for my 2001 dodge 6 speed.

i have an airdog 150, fuel pressure/boost/EGT gauges, and a BHAF.

im wanting to have a programmer that will give me some decent safe power, good fuel mileage, and relatively cheap...

im trying to decide between Edge Comp, Smarty S03, and Quadzilla ADR... really dont know what to choose. ive heard mixed reviews about all of them..

previous owner had a Smarty on the truck before i bought it, and said he really liked it.

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i would just like to hear everyones opinions about them, and if you have one of these could you let me know what kind of mileage increases that your seeing.

thanks guys :tu:

Edge comp since you already have gauges.

A set of RV275 injectors will help

Luke

Is edge comp a pretty reliable comp with good mileage gains and powerful?

Luke, will those injectors help my mileage any, and whats the cost for 6?

I was told to get 75 horse injectors, is that the same thing?

Yup 275s are rated at 40hp, but would increase mileage, although I prefer smarty over edge

Smartys are nice but they don't give you much on a VP powered truck, no pump tapping. Plus they are not "On The Fly" either. :c:

I would like on the fly. But if the power and mileage offsets the price of the smarty which is like $150 more, then i might consider it. Although smarty doesnt tap pump so isnt that just a straight 65hp?

Explain why you peefer it please, i need all the info i can get before i buy one.

How muh are those injectors?

In my opinion smartys dodge tuning is superior to edge, as far as increase in hp smarty is tuning and is adjustable because it programs through the OBDII, the edge is a box that plugs into the harness to add tuning. That's why they can be stacked. The smarty is now adjust on the fly with the edge insight as well

So the smarty is adjust on the fly? Can u send me a link to that?

it can be with an edge insight monitor
CONTROL SMARTY’S POWER-ON-DEMAND FEATURE USING YOUR EDGE INSIGHT!

Your Dodge is tuned with Smarty, but how are you monitoring your vital engine parameters? Tuning your Dodge and not running an Insight monitor is like taking a knife to a gun fight. The Edge Insight beats any analog gauge system or other digital monitors hands down when it comes to features, monitoring, and maintenance. With our new software update, Smarty users can now control their Power-On-Demand from the Insight monitor. You have a lot of money invested in your Dodge you deserve the best. You deserve Edge!

• Use the Insight to change the Power-On Demand settings of your Smarty programmer with a touch of a button
• If your truck is tuned by Smarty, simply connect the Insight to your OBDII (diagnostic) port and control the Smarty Power-on-Demand tuning that was loaded into your trucks computer!

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If I was going to recomend a tuner for that truck it would be a quadzilla adrenaline, wV2 if you want it tune on the fly but it is more expensive than either

I have the comp box. Mom runs the quadzilla. Dad and brother run SMARTY. Smarty makes truck look "cleaner" because you can unplug after tuning, cons is no pump tap. The quadzilla fuels harder than my comp does ( it seems so anyhow ) but my comp feels to have the same amount of power but egts stay under 1150, moms egts can hit 1200 on flat ground under 3/4 throttle. My vote is for comp. It is cheapest, has same power feel as other 3, shift on the fly, pulls harder on bottom end (in my opinion) and lastly the biggest thing in my mind A+++ customer service. All my opinions and experience.

there you have it I would definitely listen to the man that personally runs all 3:tu:

Thats good to have one person run all 3!!!

Is the insight a programmer, or just a monitering system? I have guages so i dont really need another set of them, but now sounds like i have even more choices.

So 53, your saying comp feels more powerful, and quad seems to fuel harder. What about the smarty? What does its piwer and everything feel like?

By the quad fueling harder, are you saying it makes more smoke? I dont want to have tons of it thrown out constantly like all the other kids in town.

If it smokes more than the other 2, i might stop considering it. :humm:

insight is just a monitor, although it allows smarty tuning to be changed on the fly, it is not a tuner itself

I have the quad in my truck, I like it a lot, on the mpg tune and tow tune I have almost no smoke, max hp tune a little, I also put in a set of rv275 injectors, made it smoke a little more but not binch. F2f75 probably best for power that I've noticed. Also if in cold area the quad has a high idle tune. Customer service is also good.

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Hmm its a tough choice it really is... :argh:

I also have the quadzilla adrenaline, if you buy from thoroughbred diesel they have the best price on them. they offer the most power and a ton of different tuning download options on their website. i dont get any smoke in economy mode. and my miles per gallon went up a lil bit.

I will beat that price

so you can beat the price of quad only, or smarty/edge too? :humm:

because i was debating thoroughbred since its an hour and a half from my house

You have a pm

thank you :tu:

anybody else have more info about these 3 programmers? :humm:

The quad smokes a little bit more than my comp box but really they are about the same when both are on the high setting. Now I aint sayin your gonna blanket the freeway, none of them seem to smoke THAT bad even on the high settings. As far as a power comparison, the smarty doesnt seem to have quite as much snot as the quad or comp. BUT the comp and quad are to close power wise to tell a difference, IMO if anybody says there is a big difference in power between those 2 I would say they are being more bias than truthful. Also my mothers truck and mine are identical trucks with the same mods minus her having 35 inch tires over my 33s and the quad over my comp. And driving to the local big city(which is half country roads half highway and about 150 miles away) her truck on economy setting with the quad gets her 24 and mine on level 2 on comp gets me 23. I choose the Comp box because it is simple to use/adjust and you cant beat the price of it for what you get. I hope I am helping but if you have any more specific questions fire away. Oh one nice thing about the quad is high idle. Here in PA it gets pretty cold in the winter so hi idle is a plus.

I never ran the Quad, but have ran the other two. Still running the Smarty, and it delivers good mileage. The Comp has unbeatable power for the price, IMO. The Comp is adjustable, which can make things easier to control in poor weather. I live in Canada, so this is very helpful. The Smarty is adjustable as well, but needs to be done through the OBDII, unless the Insight can do it. I thought the adjustability of the Smarty through the insight was only for CR trucks. I may be wrong.

The comp is sounding promising. I just dont like how confusing the quad seems with all that stuff. The edge will work for me for a while, maybe down the road when im pushing more power i might switch over to quad or smarty stacked with something else.

Thanks for info guys, im still open to all into though i want to be 100% sure when i buy it.

RA, ive also heard insight can work to change on fly, but im not sure where i read it. Was on cumminsforum, but cant remember if it was CR's or VP's that i was looking at

That is what I was thinking too.:humm:

I agree with 53 block 100% on the power of the Edge vs Quad. The quad does offer a myriad of adjustments where the Edge doesn't. I run the quad and my brother runs the smarty. Identical trucks to include turbo, injectors, and trans. His has "way mo betta" off the line but I catch up and pass quick. The quad can get very, very hot depending on the tune I run. What it comes down to, is do you want adjustability on the fly? (edge or quad). Do you want the ease of install? (smarty). Best re-sale? (Smarty). Most tuning options? (Quad). Most power with ease of operation? (Edge). It's not an easy decision. It took me 5 months to make it. And thats because I got a killer deal on a used Quad (I'm elated I ended up with it, soooo many options with one box). Also the Smarty does 3cylinder high idle. (scared the $h!t out of me first time it did it!!!).

I seriously wish you the best of luck. It's a very difficult decision to make. You will need lots of beer!

Yea im deciding on smarty or edge.. Cant make up my mind. I just want the gas mileage and bottom end power. Im not looking to race cause i dont want a new clutch lol

Either way you go, you'll need a clutch (the smarty, though not as much HP as edge still will tear it up). And I personally feel that the Smarty would be the best choice for now if all you want is mileage and bottom end (the mileage setting is spectacular! as well as off the line tire shredding ability). Then later I'd go Quad or redline box if you want to stack for power. One can never go wrong with a Smarty!

Well i might just do that then! If i get the smarty though, will it smoke a ton on mpg tune? I dont want to join the "cool" crowd. I dont mind a little if im gaining something, but i dont like idiots that "roll coal" all over the place.

This is intereasting Im learning too, but im still gonna get the edge EZ... lol But RV275 run about 375 bucks for all six after a core return..

i dont know if i want to have 120 hp.. the truck is slippery enough, and i dont necessarily have a new clutch in mind either.. might just go with the smarty....:argh:

The clutch is not a matter of if its when! you may want to invest into a new clutch that can handle what your gonna want to put into it then worries are solved..

Well hell.. I dont know what pogrammer to get lol. And how much is a good clutch? Like southbend single disk. Big enough for WAY under 400 hp dailydriving

Ok. The smarty won't really "smoke" on any of the settings if everything else is stock. That being said, a stock truck will "poot"(small puff of smoke/haze) on jack rabbit starts or initial heavy acceleration. Injectors will add smoke more so than a pressure box or smarty alone. Clutch...Southbend seems to be the way to go from what I hear. AndI do believe a quality single disk clutch will suffice.

think my friends paid 160-180 for his clutch look em up I dont have that worry I got an auto.. Shes still ticking at 239K and just to think I bough it in august 2011 with 212

thank you, good to know! i dont want to cover all the little children in black smoke. i hate jackasses that do that makes me wanna beat the hell out of them...

i just really cant choose between smarty and edge comp... im not much of a hot rodder, ill use the MPG tune 95% of the time anyway... kinda hard to race with a standard anyway

Kinda hard to race with a standard :scare2: practice my friend and it let if be an extension of your arm lol!

THe smarty should net a better MPG than the edge. Of course you'll have nay sayers, sooooo JMHO. And again...if you're not racing or sled pullin'... I'm gonna stick with recommending Smarty.

Yea i believe im gonna go with smarty. Goin to order tonight!

And ranchhand i know lol

But its hard to race a standard when auyos with same power can beat u lol