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94 12valve 10-26-2010 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by shortbusdriver (Post 642178)
Did I say you should run 21º? No, just giving an example.

blazier18, your pm box is full.


Originally Posted by shortbusdriver (Post 642135)
You can run more then that and the gasket will hold just fine as long as you dont try and blow it running it cold or beating the fark out of it. Running 21º on our current truck with stock bolts and gasket and that truck is treated like a $50 hooker.


you said "You can run more then that and the gasket will hold just fine " then said your truck holds fine at 21* of timing, implying that it is ok to run 21* on every truck with stock bolts and no o or fire rings.

shortbusdriver 10-26-2010 11:41 AM

More then 16º also includes 17º and 18º and 19º. As I said, 21º was just an example, not that every truck should run it. To say that you CANT run more then 16º on stock gasket and bolts without the gasket going is not true.

85_305 10-26-2010 05:35 PM

Running more than 16* is asking for trouble.

shortbusdriver 10-26-2010 05:56 PM

and you say that out of opinion and not out of experience?

85_305 10-26-2010 06:00 PM

I state that opinion based upon facts I have collected on others whom have had bad luck running high levels of timing w/out supporting mods.

lodal cummins 10-26-2010 08:03 PM

maybe MAX was the wrong term for stock head bolts. the term SAFEST would be more fitting!

85_305 10-26-2010 08:16 PM

Well I believe max-safest would be even better :P

dieseltech8100 10-27-2010 01:56 AM

Well if you want safest, don't mess with it. Stock is safest. (but who wants stock?)

I personally would crank it up to 17 or so and call it good. 18 if you retorque

blazier18 10-27-2010 03:48 AM

wat would i need with 5x12 injectors

85_305 10-27-2010 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by dieseltech8100 (Post 642955)
Well if you want safest, don't mess with it. Stock is safest. (but who wants stock?)

lol isn't that the truth


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