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Neibe 10-25-2010 06:35 PM

Advance Timing
 
How much should I advance my timing? All I have added is a #10 plate BHAF and straight piped.

lodal cummins 10-25-2010 06:54 PM

16 degrees max with stock head bolts:c:

94 12valve 10-25-2010 08:53 PM

stock injectors?

Neibe 10-25-2010 09:11 PM

yes 215hp. when i replace the injectors what should i go with

shortbusdriver 10-25-2010 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by lodal cummins (Post 642006)
16 degrees max with stock head bolts:c:

You think you cant run more then that on stockers?

lodal cummins 10-25-2010 09:35 PM

sure you can but the head gasket will not hold up and i think u run the risk of stretching the head bolts. but what do i know:s:

shortbusdriver 10-25-2010 09:59 PM

You can run more then that and the gasket will hold just fine as long as you dont try and blow it running it cold or beating the fark out of it. Running 21º on our current truck with stock bolts and gasket and that truck is treated like a $50 hooker.

94 12valve 10-25-2010 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by shortbusdriver (Post 642135)
You can run more then that and the gasket will hold just fine as long as you dont try and blow it running it cold or beating the fark out of it. Running 21º on our current truck with stock bolts and gasket and that truck is treated like a $50 hooker.

not all trucks will last like your "$50 hooker"

blazier18 10-25-2010 10:33 PM

mine was a 8500$ hooker wwhen i bought her and she aint put out since i changed tips LMAO:rocking:

shortbusdriver 10-25-2010 10:40 PM

Did I say you should run 21º? No, just giving an example.

blazier18, your pm box is full.

94 12valve 10-26-2010 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by shortbusdriver (Post 642178)
Did I say you should run 21º? No, just giving an example.

blazier18, your pm box is full.


Originally Posted by shortbusdriver (Post 642135)
You can run more then that and the gasket will hold just fine as long as you dont try and blow it running it cold or beating the fark out of it. Running 21º on our current truck with stock bolts and gasket and that truck is treated like a $50 hooker.


you said "You can run more then that and the gasket will hold just fine " then said your truck holds fine at 21* of timing, implying that it is ok to run 21* on every truck with stock bolts and no o or fire rings.

shortbusdriver 10-26-2010 11:41 AM

More then 16º also includes 17º and 18º and 19º. As I said, 21º was just an example, not that every truck should run it. To say that you CANT run more then 16º on stock gasket and bolts without the gasket going is not true.

85_305 10-26-2010 05:35 PM

Running more than 16* is asking for trouble.

shortbusdriver 10-26-2010 05:56 PM

and you say that out of opinion and not out of experience?

85_305 10-26-2010 06:00 PM

I state that opinion based upon facts I have collected on others whom have had bad luck running high levels of timing w/out supporting mods.

lodal cummins 10-26-2010 08:03 PM

maybe MAX was the wrong term for stock head bolts. the term SAFEST would be more fitting!

85_305 10-26-2010 08:16 PM

Well I believe max-safest would be even better :P

dieseltech8100 10-27-2010 01:56 AM

Well if you want safest, don't mess with it. Stock is safest. (but who wants stock?)

I personally would crank it up to 17 or so and call it good. 18 if you retorque

blazier18 10-27-2010 03:48 AM

wat would i need with 5x12 injectors

85_305 10-27-2010 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by dieseltech8100 (Post 642955)
Well if you want safest, don't mess with it. Stock is safest. (but who wants stock?)

lol isn't that the truth

Neibe 10-27-2010 09:06 PM

So where can I find detailed instructions to advance the timing? Like idiot proof or so easy a retard could do it:)

85_305 10-27-2010 09:31 PM

If you've never done it, DONT mess with it. It's not easy by any stretch of the mind (at least not for a noobie). If you are REALLY good, you can get away w/ not removing the FC. But 95% of people cant do it that way (my last diesel shop are the only ones I know of that can...), there is a lot to it.

tiremann9669 10-27-2010 10:19 PM

There are detailed write ups on here, just use the search, if you can turn wrenches and follow instructions I say go for it. Of course you have to have the kit to do it. (around 200 on fleabay) :c:

blazier18 10-27-2010 11:52 PM

so how much should i ''HAVE IT'' adavanced with injectors turbo and tuned pump and afc and custom dv's

85_305 10-28-2010 07:13 AM

16* til u get a gasket & fire ringed

shortbusdriver 10-28-2010 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by blazier18 (Post 643525)
so how much should i ''HAVE IT'' adavanced with injectors turbo and tuned pump and afc and custom dv's

What injectors/turbo/dv's? What will the injectors be set too?


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