I for one an very open armed towards compatition......

compatition forces all the products to get better and also to have respectable prices for said product

I love the fact that Valair clutch is now a marketable and dependable clutch and I for one would fully support them as I do with all of our fine site sponsers

I look forward to seeing sponsership of the site from Valairclutch

Good news

I guess I am old school.. I have been following the diesel boards since, well, before there was the TDR online, and I can say that SBC and Peter have outperformed anyone who competed with them. Competition is good, but as SBC goes, the product and service speak for themselves, even if other want to throw dirt at them. Being the puffiest chest doesn't gain customers and there are many many performance vendors that have fallen using that tactic.

This is IMHO, so flame away..

1st of all we do not bash anyone, ever. we a just regular people well maybe rednecks trying to make a living. I personally have been manufacturing Heavy Duty Clutches for 31 plus years.and i still don't know it all.


2 nd of all i can't pm anyone cause i dont have enough posts, can someone send me information on being a site sponser

no one is trying to flame anyone, we all have different opinions. By your statements though it makes me think you are saying valair is bashing sbc, I for one would like to know where or when you saw/heard them do that. I have talked to them here and on the phone and never heard them say anything bad about any other vendor out there. In another post Hammer said that valair was bashing sbc on another forum, when he was asked what post this happend on I never saw a reply but they could be talking in PM's who knows. All I know is what I have experienced with Valair and because Im a actual customer with valair I think my words go a little father than someone who has never even spoke with them. Buy who ever you want no one here is saying peter is a bad guy but at the same time just because valair is the new guy dosent mean his service/product isnt as good as the old guys.

One more thing on the bashing subject I thought I would include....

I have talked with Dan (owner of valair) on the phone several times and of all the times I talked to him he had nothing bad to say about SBC, in fact what he said about them was that they offered a very good product, and that Peter was a very good guy.

He then went on to say that valair clutches would likely be as exspensive as SBC's if it wasn't for the fact that valair can get their materials alot cheaper because he buys so much due to them being a Heavy Truck clutch builder, and that he felt the need for a more affordable option in the high performance diesel market. So he decided a few years ago to use his 30+ years expierence and buying power in the heavy truck market to start making performance clutches for us, and simply passes the savings on....

Just figured I would pass that on for those that might be interested....Josh

i am not nick i am the owner of valair. no one but me will be logged in as Valair1

Well, there you have it. He is using his buying power to get product cheaper then us with his 30 years in business. We have been in the clutch business since 1942 with 4 generations. We build and sell clutches for all makes, semi, agricultural, passenger car, trucks, industrial machines. We now have over 20 people building clutches with many double shifts. Our monthly accounts payable is roughly $500,000 to $600,000. We helped finance and introduce Kevlar friction material to the market 35 years ago. We introduced the agricultural feramic to the pickup and passenger car market 8 years ago. We implemented the semi HD disc to the pickup market in 1999 for the Ford 7.3. Before us there was no 13" spicer style disc with a 1 3/8" spline. We designed the 13" upgrade clutch for the 5sp dodge trucks. We designed the solid flywheel conversion for the Duramax trucks Ford 6.0 trucks and the Dodges with the G56 transmission. We spent $150,000 To have the 3400 lb 13" covers made for us. We designed the adjustable HD hydraulics. We designed the 1st spring loaded dual disc clutch to ever be put into a diesel pickup. The Feramic friction material we use in the 13" full ring is soley ours and only sold to us. Detroit is working with us on redesigning their dual disc clutch for the late model Mustangs. Our products are in know way shape or form the same as any other companies. The cost of a clutch is not only in what it takes to build it, it is also the development of the product. Nothing on said companies web page was designed by said company. We had a clutch available for the Dodge G56 2005-2007 before the trucks were on the market because we knew there was going to be premature failure with the dual mass flywheel. Working with dodge and the development cost big $$'s. We, South Bend Clutch will not and do not sit back and wait to see what another company develops and copy it. My rant is done...Sorry.

Peter
South Bend Clutch

Well what everbody says on here basically just renforces the old saying you can't believe everything you here or read for that matter....

The main point I was trying to get across was that Dan had nothing but good to say about you peter

....josh

I did not use the term bash, however I have been directed to less than above board comments and honestly, I have been a follower of Peters for a long time. I am biased towards SBC so I will not argue the point any further.

I am not going to go through all the posts and link them here just to prove a point. Why bother? Then its weather vane of blame of who said what and where, out of context yada yada. I will visit this post in about 2 years and see whose still kickin around.