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spetersen502 05-08-2010 07:16 AM

3k govenor springs
 
how much time would this take like an hour or two just wondering and its just on the side of the pump just turn it over right

cummins95 05-08-2010 07:24 AM

for your first time it should only take maybe an hour n a half. it took me that long because i was extremely cautious getting the shims out, but it really isn't that bad. pull the plug out of the side of the pump, replace 1 side, then roll the motor til u see the other spring n change it. what kit did u get? it should have instructions with it.

Dr. Evil 05-08-2010 10:03 AM

Instructions:

PDR governor spring installation

12vcummins96 05-08-2010 11:38 AM

well doc you beat me to it :c:

96dodgeplayer 05-10-2010 01:04 AM

:tu:

Threesixty 05-13-2010 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Dr. Evil (Post 553098)

Those instructions are to go thru the top, If you read further down there are some more instruction of going thru the side.

Also, there is a discussion here that also has written instruction of going thru the side....
I've yet to try it myself, but I will, eventually.

https://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-1...springs-2.html

I suggest buying 2 heater grid gaskets, before you attempt it though....

96dodgeplayer 05-13-2010 11:18 PM

when you buy the kit it comes with instructions. to go on the side

12valvetater 05-14-2010 12:06 AM

Just for your information. Not all pumps have shims under the springs.

relay93 05-15-2010 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by 12valvetater (Post 556331)
Just for your information. Not all pumps have shims under the springs.

Or the same amount of shims on both sides.

biged681985 05-15-2010 04:47 PM

i thought all of them had shims from the factory :humm: just make sure there isnt any in there, there kinda hard to tell if theres any in there, they stick to the bottom of the barrel

glfredrick 05-16-2010 08:38 AM

I did mine, first timer, took me less than an hour. Most of the time was spent getting other stuff out of the way so I could get at the plug. I did mine through the side. VERY easy. Not at all as bad as it seemed from the pictures and warnings. Just have a good pencil magnet handy. Everything lifts out simple.

relay93 05-16-2010 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by biged681985 (Post 557176)
i thought all of them had shims from the factory :humm: just make sure there isnt any in there, there kinda hard to tell if theres any in there, they stick to the bottom of the barrel

I haven't heard where there wasn't any shims but I know myself and others have found that there was one side that had less than the other side. Freaked me out when I seen this:scare2:, I thought had dropped a shim. Found out I wasn't the first one this happened to.:jump:

Threesixty 05-17-2010 12:49 PM

If the shims could be from anything, to mismatched, to none.... what are they for? And if it's done for balance. Wouldn't the kit make things unbalanced, which would eventually cause some sort of problem in the long run?

relay93 05-23-2010 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Threesixty (Post 558298)
If the shims could be from anything, to mismatched, to none.... what are they for? And if it's done for balance. Wouldn't the kit make things unbalanced, which would eventually cause some sort of problem in the long run?

The way I understand it is the idle springs is for idle and low rpm range. I have not heard of anyone seeing an unbalance of shims with the idle spring. The other shims are for balancing the springs, the smaller springs, that are used in governing the high rpm spectrum. The shims are for balancing I believe the height of the springs and not so much the spring rate therefore when the height is matched there is a balance when they start compressing due to the increasing centrifugal force caused by engine rpm. The higher staring torque single phase electric motors use the same principle to open the start winding circuit when the motor reaches approx. 75% of rpm.

I believe most governor spring kits will have better matching springs most of the time. I know of one diesel shop that measures spring height to get the springs as closely matched before installing. Only real world driving will let you know how close the spring are matched.

If I am thinking wrong here some one please chime in.

96dodgeplayer 05-24-2010 05:27 AM

i never seen one with out shims either, nor have i ever seen any issues after changing the govern spring,

well i take that back, after i changed the govern springs, sometimes i do have to bump up the idle 200rpms or so. but as far as that, nothing else.

relay93 05-24-2010 06:15 AM

My truck idles fine but the issue that I have been dealing with is governor bounce while pulling a heavy trailer. It can cause a jerking similar to a weak throttle return spring.

94 12valve 05-24-2010 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by 96dodgeplayer (Post 562162)
i never seen one with out shims either, nor have i ever seen any issues after changing the govern spring,

well i take that back, after i changed the govern springs, sometimes i do have to bump up the idle 200rpms or so. but as far as that, nothing else.

bump it up? every set I have put in I have to set the idel down a little

96dodgeplayer 05-24-2010 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by 94 12valve (Post 562204)
bump it up? every set I have put in I have to set the idel down a little

yes bump it up, idle would be down to about 500rpm

94 12valve 05-24-2010 02:25 PM

sure you gave the springs enough clicks?

relay93 05-24-2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by 94 12valve (Post 562204)
bump it up? every set I have put in I have to set the idel down a little

I had to adjust the idle down as well.


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