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12valvecory 04-14-2010 09:14 AM

Want to go faster!
 
just got my new truck and i put #6 Plate in it FF and everything turned up. It would smoke alot but its just not fast like i cant even burn the tires out so what do i need to do i turned the star wheel back and dosent smoke as much but still is not fast. I thought about moving the plate up some but i mean what will help. Ive got about a 1000$ to spend so what next.

94 12valve 04-14-2010 09:21 AM

what exactly did you turn up on the truck?

Shea@L&N Performance 04-14-2010 11:08 AM

Get dome gauges if you don't already have some then bump the timing up to round 16

12valvecory 04-14-2010 11:36 AM

like i cut the line to the waste gate. afc ff #6plateff and those 191delivery valves and i got gauges and it runs pretty hot will timing make the temps go down.

captain_stabbin 04-14-2010 12:25 PM

its running hott cause you have 191dv's and stock injectors

85_305 04-14-2010 01:30 PM

Huh.. a 7k lb diesel dually wont burn it's tires. Son of a b*tch imagine that.

But anyways with the few mods in my sig I can lite up the tires on the right pavement and right clutch popping in 3rd gear. With 5 people in the truck. And 1,070 lbs of sand bags over the rear tires.


Ask me how I know...

Red_Rattler 04-14-2010 01:57 PM

Because you broke it too...

85_305 04-14-2010 02:23 PM

Ah touche', my commonrailed friend. I beg to differ. I see it as, the cummins broke itself lol :lol:

Shea@L&N Performance 04-14-2010 02:24 PM

Bumping the timing should make your egt's go down a little bit. Aftermarket turbo and injectors would help alot

Threesixty 04-15-2010 05:00 PM

If you just want to go faster...
I don't see anything about a 3k/4k Governor Spring Kit (GSK) in your descriptions.

Heh... ever think of just buying corvette or something?

12valvetater 04-15-2010 05:38 PM

Might want to reconsider the whole cutting your wastegate line thing.

85_305 04-15-2010 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Threesixty (Post 538442)
If you just want to go faster...
I don't see anything about a 3k/4k Governor Spring Kit (GSK) in your descriptions.

Heh... ever think of just buying corvette or something?

F*ck corvettes when you can build a turbo diesel to be faster, get better mileage, hold 3x the amount of people, AND tow that corvette when it breaks down :lol: lol


Originally Posted by 12valvetater (Post 538472)
Might want to reconsider the whole cutting your wastegate line thing.

I thought that was silly too but didn't want to be the first to say anything

wisconsin redneck 04-15-2010 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by 12valvetater (Post 538472)
Might want to reconsider the whole cutting your wastegate line thing.

yeh i was thinkin the same thing too.. :argh: i think its like wut anything above 30 or 35lbs of boost the hx35 just starts pushin hot air..... which does nothing for preformance.... theres a reason the wastegate is there :tu:

94 12valve 04-15-2010 08:31 PM

The main reason would be the drive press. With cutting the wastegate and that small 12cm housing the drive press would go through the roof.

And when that happens it chokes the engine and you atuall lose more power than you gain

12valvetater 04-15-2010 09:07 PM

Also did you just plain cut it or did you plug it.

joey 04-15-2010 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by 85_305 (Post 537687)
Huh.. a 7k lb diesel dually wont burn it's tires. Son of a b*tch imagine that.

But anyways with the few mods in my sig I can lite up the tires on the right pavement and right clutch popping in 3rd gear. With 5 people in the truck. And 1,070 lbs of sand bags over the rear tires.


Ask me how I know...

Ummm dont wanna bag on you but his truck aint a dually, but i could be going blind also.

hereismylife 04-16-2010 12:16 AM

I am in the same boat. I still need more but mine does go good now. gov springs,no plate,no afc with 30 lbs of boost works well.:jump:

85_305 04-16-2010 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by joey (Post 538637)
Ummm dont wanna bag on you but his truck aint a dually, but i could be going blind also.

Well I was a bit confused too; his sig says a '95, but his avatar info on the top right says a '94 dually:humm:


Originally Posted by j_k_auto (Post 538740)
I am in the same boat. I still need more but mine does go good now. gov springs,no plate,no afc with 30 lbs of boost works well.:jump:

I cant WAIT to get a gsk

12valvecory 04-16-2010 09:12 AM

well i had a 94 but sold it and havent changed that. I plugged the waste gate cause my truck wont make more than 30lbs with it plugged so. And i moved the 6 plate around and put a cold air on it and it helped alot and it is a 2500.And i am about to order some GSK springs.

85_305 04-16-2010 09:45 AM

30psi is PLENTY on an hx35. Whats it boosting at now? Probably way too much

Threesixty 04-16-2010 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by 85_305 (Post 538476)
F*ck corvettes when you can build a turbo diesel to be faster, get better mileage, hold 3x the amount of people, AND tow that corvette when it breaks down :lol: lol

I did add, or something...

Anyway, what is the expected top end of a modified diesel? I just know with the two stock one's I've owned ('91 & '94), neither one would get much above 90.

Oh, and you can't tow a 'vette; you'll break it.

BIG NIG 04-16-2010 02:13 PM

spend the extra few dollars and get DDP gov springs
pac brake springs wont fuel past about 34-3500rpms and have a bad lope when the engine is cold

85_305 04-16-2010 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Threesixty (Post 539026)
I did add, or something...

Anyway, what is the expected top end of a modified diesel? I just know with the two stock one's I've owned ('91 & '94), neither one would get much above 90.

Oh, and you can't tow a 'vette; you'll break it.


I dunno my modded dually will get to 90+ very quickly though. Just raced some VW and turbo audi from a 55ish roll and the needle was VERY burried hehe

williamhuckeba 03-02-2011 02:17 AM

Hey guys just reading up on this and i was wondering... i have done alot of these mods to my truck too. I took out my fuel plate, star wheel FF, 4" exhaust, i upgraded my turbo from and hx35 to a custom one(the guy i took it to rebuilt it with a bigger turbine), and i have a 4"x8" free flow air filter AFE, and wastegate capped off. My question is why is it that i can only boost 15-19lbs on the first 3 gears then it jumps to 35lbs on the last gear? it did the same thing with the stock turbo. I thought by putting a bigger turbo it would boost higher in the early gears? Whats wrong with my truck? Engine has 245k miles on it. it feels very strong on the final gear. Stock turbo had no side or endplay- only rebuilt it to get more boost. SOMEONE HELP PLEASE!:scare2:

94 12valve 03-02-2011 03:07 PM

gov springs

dmaxkiller 10-29-2011 04:40 PM

i have a 97 with no plate gutted afc 4k gsk bhaf and stock turbo and i pull 38-45 psi outa my stock turbo... however my trucks not real fast with the gsk but its not slow i can beat most single tuner CRs and psds... but my top speed is also abot 140mph... after about 95 it takes it a lot longer to get to that speed but it will run that fast... it needs injectors and bigger turbo... gsk's arnt all that great just allows more fuel to rev higher... yea they help but injectors would do more and dont use ddp... im not allowed to use the words to discribe them well enough but they *$&%$#(^*$%^($*^$(%^&@(^&^(&^(&%(^*)()_#$%*!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if ya want a great injector and a good price go to SDX

monster12valve 10-30-2011 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by dmaxkiller (Post 814502)
i have a 97 with no plate gutted afc 4k gsk bhaf and stock turbo and i pull 38-45 psi outa my stock turbo... however my trucks not real fast with the gsk but its not slow i can beat most single tuner CRs and psds... but my top speed is also abot 140mph... after about 95 it takes it a lot longer to get to that speed but it will run that fast... it needs injectors and bigger turbo... gsk's arnt all that great just allows more fuel to rev higher... yea they help but injectors would do more and dont use ddp... im not allowed to use the words to discribe them well enough but they *$&%$#(^*$%^($*^$(%^&@(^&^(&^(&%(^*)()_#$%*!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if ya want a great injector and a good price go to SDX

im gonna have to disagree with gsk arnt great....and running bigger injectors without a gsk will be a waste:tu:

dmaxkiller 10-30-2011 09:02 PM

why would it be a waste? not evevybody wants to rev to 5k rpmand are happy with 2500... and as for the 4k gsk i never said it wasnt helpful just said its not the best thing.... i would think if he wants to go faster a set of injectors with a turbo and maybe a rack plug with a 0 plate and afc tuned maybe some DVs but he dont need any... a gsk will just let him fuel harder at a lower rpm and travel to higher rpms... is he lookin for 10sec 1/4's? prolly not in the next yr.... just my thoughts on the matter


Originally Posted by monster12valve (Post 814926)
im gonna have to disagree with gsk arnt great....and running bigger injectors without a gsk will be a waste:tu:


captain_stabbin 10-30-2011 10:29 PM

remember when modifying anything its about makin everything work together not just throwing 1 part on an expecting it to work.. getting the right setup is keyed.

85_305 10-31-2011 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by dmaxkiller (Post 814935)
why would it be a waste? not evevybody wants to rev to 5k rpmand are happy with 2500... and as for the 4k gsk i never said it wasnt helpful just said its not the best thing.... i would think if he wants to go faster a set of injectors with a turbo and maybe a rack plug with a 0 plate and afc tuned maybe some DVs but he dont need any... a gsk will just let him fuel harder at a lower rpm and travel to higher rpms... is he lookin for 10sec 1/4's? prolly not in the next yr.... just my thoughts on the matter

Rpm's=power. End of story. The more rpm's you can turn, the more power you can make. The stock fueling is very limited. Installing a gsk allows more fueling throughout the entire rpm band, which is good. No if's and's or but's about it.


Originally Posted by captain_stabbin (Post 814993)
remember when modifying anything its about makin everything work together not just throwing 1 part on an expecting it to work.. getting the right setup is keyed.

True:tu:

monster12valve 10-31-2011 08:02 PM

whats the point in running an aftermarket turbo that lights at say...1400rpm when u quit fueling at 2300? waste of money with out a gsk. hands down one of the best cheap mods to do to a 12v imo

85_305 10-31-2011 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by monster12valve (Post 815340)
whats the point in running an aftermarket turbo that lights at say...1400rpm when u quit fueling at 2300? waste of money with out a gsk. hands down one of the best cheap mods to do to a 12v imo

I was going to make mention of that too but was already winded so I decided not to:lol:

dmaxkiller 11-01-2011 08:43 PM

right but cummins have wayy more power at lower rpms they tend to fall on there face after about 3k im not saying your wrong but im not saying that a gsk is everything its nice but even a stockish (pump turned up) is very powerful and is very willing to tow anything just a lil smokey...


Originally Posted by 85_305 (Post 815092)
Rpm's=power. End of story. The more rpm's you can turn, the more power you can make. The stock fueling is very limited. Installing a gsk allows more fueling throughout the entire rpm band, which is good. No if's and's or but's about it.



True:tu:


85_305 11-02-2011 08:38 AM

I understand that... but thats like saying cummins make plenty of power on stock boost and fuel, so why bother turning those up?!

dmaxkiller 11-02-2011 01:46 PM

for the everyday person they do make enough power... but its a power thing most diesel ppl cant leave things alone... once you have turned it up and made power youll never stop... aot of ppl do leave there trucks stock


Originally Posted by 85_305 (Post 815896)
I understand that... but thats like saying cummins make plenty of power on stock boost and fuel, so why bother turning those up?!


85_305 11-02-2011 01:51 PM

Thats find and dandy.. but to say a gsk is "stupid" or "worthless" would be plain ignorant.


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