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piperca 11-03-2007 05:36 PM

5.9 CR Versus 6.0 PSD?
 
I'm going to be getting into a new truck and it's going to be one of these two. I want to hear honest pros and cons for both. I'm looking at 2004.5 Cummins and up and 2005 PSDs. Let me have it! :sos:

Uncle Bubba 11-03-2007 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by piperca (Post 69324)
I'm going to be getting into a new truck and it's going to be one of these two. I want to hear honest pros and cons for both. I'm looking at 2004.5 Cummins and up and 2005 PSDs. Let me have it! :sos:

:DD::bat::madd::voodoo::gunner: ANDREW, we aren't gonna start this all over again are we.:argh:

I can't wait for Doc to see this.

Diesel Dawgs Performance 11-03-2007 05:46 PM

I had a 05 CC 6spd 6.0L and with straight pipe exhaust, SCT programmer and airaid intake I averaged 13-14mpg. I never abused the truck but I believe the headgasket was about to pop on me. I never had the EGT's over 1250* It only had 29,000 miles on it when I got it. The truck its self was built good as far as the body and interior. I also prefer the looks of the Ford. I also owned a 04 Xcab Automatic 6.0L. It averaged 15mpg and the TQ Shift transmission was flawless. With Straight Pipe Exhaust, Intake and SCT it was an extremely fast truck. I can't give any insite to the new Cummins because I have personally never owned one. From what I have read though I will never own another Auto Transmissin. The Ford 6.0L seems to be a hit and miss as far as fuel milleage or engine problems.

piperca 11-03-2007 05:59 PM

Where the hell is he???? I knew I'd catch someones eye! How are things, Dennis?

It's time to put the old girl to pasture. I started a new job and need a new mode of transportation. You know how I feel about those PSDs ... what do you think?

What's average mileage on the CR/PSD?

Any major problems with either?

I don't intend on modding this truck.

BTW: Doc, my 53 is still running strong! LMFAO!

Uncle Bubba 11-03-2007 06:08 PM

They're all to new for me to know anything about but from reading through these boards I sure would suggest addin the Duramx to the list. The big race dispute bewteen truck quality seems to be between Duramax and Cummins these days.

Lifes good on this end, glad to see all the smoke didn't chase you off yet.

dieseljunkie 11-03-2007 06:13 PM

I'm biased, and I have seen too many issues with the 6.0 to buy one. If we were talking the 6.4 though, I think I'd buy one of them.
Scott

piperca 11-03-2007 11:22 PM

I was able to get some video of the fires from my back yard. We weren't bothered too much by them, other than the smoke and ash.

Duramax would be nice, but the truck is UGLY! My wife's boss picked up a Mega Cab today. Fully loaded for $39K ... sweet deal! I guess he bought it over the internet and they gave him $4000 rebate AND 0% financing ... oops! He's paying it off in a month or two, so no harm done!

The wife took a ride in it today and she said it is beautiful. She's trying to encourage me to get into one, but I can't justify the price. I'm trying to stay under $30K. I've seen a few quad cabs around here for the high 20's with 30K miles. I just need to make my mind up as to what I'm doing ... Ford or Dodge????

Where the hell's Shane? I stop in for a visit and he doesn't say hello? What gives? :ph:

Gerry 11-03-2007 11:42 PM

can't speak much of the fords... I bought my dodge just because of the cummins.. a few friends have them one has almost 400K miles with few problems (tranny only).. he doesn't maintain it.. it leaks a quart of oil a month so he just dumps in a new one and figures that is an oil change..

work trucks are all 5.9 cummins... we work the heck out of them and they just keep going... if it can pull my 30K truck it can sure pull a little pick up..

Gerry

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3 more bucks

piperca 11-03-2007 11:49 PM

Gerry, what's the word on mileage with the CR? I'm looking at 4x4 crew cab with the higher gearing ... I'm tired of the high RPMs of my 4:10s on the freeway.

Gerry 11-03-2007 11:53 PM

I am averaging about 16-17 mixed freeway and city... I am pretty easy on the pickup...

WOrk truck there is no telling.. it sits parked running a pto most of the time so there is no real way of caculating milage...

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3 more bucks

skynyrd 11-04-2007 09:54 PM

i have an 05 reg cab 4x4 and i get about 17-19 mpg about 75% highway driving. i have upgraded my tranny to a fully built race tranny though it was running around 20 mpg before i did the tranny swap. if you plan on running the dodge stock just put a better TC in the tranny and you'll be fine maybe turn the pressure up a little on the valve body. other than that i have had my truck for 2 years and have 58K miles on it and nor problems yet and beat on it everyday. towing, racing, sled pulls, burn outs

Alli_Gator 11-04-2007 10:23 PM

My choice would be the Dodge. Hands down the most reliable motor between the two. My brother had an 05 Excursion with a 6.0 and it went through both headgaskets, an EGR valve, can't count how many ECM reflashes, and an Injector in 35K miles. On the other hand, my cousin has an 06, had a Bully Dog on Extreme since 10K (now has almost 70K on it) and it hasn't even seen the shop. Very hit an miss with the Powerstroke 6.0L trucks. I still like the Ford for looks over the Dodge, but I still can't get past the motor.

2001shrtbedcummins 11-04-2007 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by skynyrd (Post 69774)
i have an 05 reg cab 4x4 and i get about 17-19 mpg about 75% highway driving. i have upgraded my tranny to a fully built race tranny though it was running around 20 mpg before i did the tranny swap. if you plan on running the dodge stock just put a better TC in the tranny and you'll be fine maybe turn the pressure up a little on the valve body. other than that i have had my truck for 2 years and have 58K miles on it and nor problems yet and beat on it everyday. towing, racing, sled pulls, burn outs

Timmay tested and approved huh?

skynyrd 11-04-2007 10:30 PM

yeah tug-a-war (bumper pulls) in the parking lot at ts performance in may timmay wiped up the place with my truck

2001shrtbedcummins 11-04-2007 10:35 PM

thank god for billet trannies

skynyrd 11-04-2007 10:40 PM

yup thanks to dusty at HTS, tranny held up enough to drag a 637hp cummins backwards that night. it has held up to the abuse i have put it thru the last 6 months

Dr. Evil 11-05-2007 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Uncle Bubba (Post 69326)
I can't wait for Doc to see this.

:mum::mum::mum:

Dr. Evil 11-05-2007 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by piperca (Post 69464)
Where the hell's Shane? I stop in for a visit and he doesn't say hello? What gives? :ph:

I think u just stopped by to yank my chain...:poak: lol

I dont know what to tell ya - I dont really like anything on the market now...they ALL seem to be expensive and unreliable. I still waiting for the day I can walk in the dealership and buy a new 12V. :se:

piperca 11-06-2007 11:07 PM

I'm with you on that ... good to see your still around, Shane.

Yank your chain ... me .... never! :w2:

Well, it looks like the wife wants me to keep the existing truck and get myself a commuter. I do a bit of driving now, which has a tendency to eat up the fuel. I guess a little four cylinder gasser would probably be a better choice ... for her! And here I was thinking I was getting the O.K. on a new(er) truck ... stupid Andrew! Damn, it would have been nice to post a picture of that PSD ... just for you, Shane! :tttt:

Dr. Evil 11-06-2007 11:24 PM

If you were going to go with 7.3 Id say have at her. I wouldnt mind one of those myself. To be honest, this 12V has given me way more trouble than my 24V EVER HAS.

Besides, youve put way too much work into that 24V to give up on it now.

Dont be a stranger Andrew - Uncle Bubba get so lonely !!....:sad: :sad: lol

Uncle Bubba 11-06-2007 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by Dr. Evil (Post 70765)
If you were going to go with 7.3 Id say have at her. I wouldnt mind one of those myself. To be honest, this 12V has given me way more trouble than my 24V EVER HAS.

Besides, youve put way too much work into that 24V to give up on it now.

Dont be a stranger Andrew - Uncle Bubba get so lonely !!....:sad: :sad: lol

You aint kiddin, sometimes it gets so bad i gotta break down and talk to the Dr. just to get it off my chest.:map::argh:

Dr. Evil 11-06-2007 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Bubba (Post 70766)
You aint kiddin, sometimes it gets so bad i gotta break down and talk to the Dr. just to get it off my chest.:map::argh:

Its a good thing I have a thick perscription pad....

dalton06 11-08-2007 08:29 AM

only reason to get a psd is nice sounding turbo and exhaust. Other than that stick with the ram

piperca 11-15-2007 10:23 PM

Okay, you'll be happy to know I bit the bullet and got a new vehicle. Not what I intended on getting, but it gets 32+mpg, 0-60 in 6.8 seconds and is turbocharged ... meet the new mistress:

http://www.nctd.com/06/06-93-hero.jpg

She's identical to the one in the picture. I'll get some pics of mine when I get a chance.

BTW: I kept the old lass too!

Johnny Cetane 11-16-2007 08:15 AM

Saabs have their oddities but I think they're sex on wheels. Nice choice. :up:

adam05 01-14-2008 07:46 PM

Well If I can fellas I would like to add the fact that I have a cousin that works at a dealer and he tells me that the that the Duramax and the PSD both have longevity issues between 60k and 80k due to the high boost used to build power in the two of them both really don't build good power until 35psi or better, as opposed to the Cummmins that releases at 32psi. Kind of makes sense considering strain placed on head bolts and the bottom end. There is a trade off though the Cummins is the worst when it comes to fuel economy but it all has to due to the boost used to build pressure.

mattyboy72 01-14-2008 11:15 PM

is adam serious with the cummins havin the worst fuel economy, did i read that right my truck running with almost dead injectors idling all the time still goes almost 850kms too a tank and thats hammerin on her too

MotorOilMcCall 01-15-2008 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by adam05 (Post 103944)
Well If I can fellas I would like to add the fact that I have a cousin that works at a dealer and he tells me that the that the Duramax and the PSD both have longevity issues between 60k and 80k due to the high boost used to build power in the two of them both really don't build good power until 35psi or better, as opposed to the Cummmins that releases at 32psi. Kind of makes sense considering strain placed on head bolts and the bottom end. There is a trade off though the Cummins is the worst when it comes to fuel economy but it all has to due to the boost used to build pressure.

I sure hope you know how dumb that just made you sound :poak:. The Cummins have always been known for superior fuel economy, and the Duramax trucks have been getting closer since their debut. The Fords have never had any fuel mileage to brag about, being the worst of the 3. Longevity is hit and miss with ANY truck, but look at the facts and the PSD's have had BY FAR the most problems, resulting in over 500 vehicle buy backs due to numerous engine failures. In the same time frame, GM and Dodge have numbers in the single digits.

The reason the Cummins makes more power lower down is because its an I-6 design, not a V8. Boost plays its part, but shouldn't the engine be designed to handle it?

Ignorance is bliss...until it gets beaten out of ya right? :bat:

At least thats how I was raised...:wack:


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