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BLACKSMOKEMOAN 01-26-2010 07:35 PM

Putting a 12 valve in a 2005??????
 
Have a chance to buy an 05 cummins with a bad motor. I have a pulled 12 valve sitting in the garage. Anybody know if this conversion would work? Anybody done it? advice would be awesome. Thanks

dangerous1965 01-26-2010 07:37 PM

Easy as pie since you only need one wire to run the 12v! Lucky you!

07redsled 01-26-2010 07:56 PM

after market dash and more the TIPM will not be happy lol i was gonna do the same thing to my 04 ended up rebuilding the common rail

Dr. Evil 01-26-2010 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by 07redsled (Post 480490)
after market dash and more the TIPM will not be happy lol i was gonna do the same thing to my 04 ended up rebuilding the common rail

More info if you have it.



I cant see why it wouldnt work. Of course, you will need to be good with wiring.

07redsled 01-27-2010 06:29 AM

the dash, lights , and other controls are all controlled by the TIPM ( totally ingerated powertrain module) my step dads truck lost signal in the tipm and the truck started but had no dash no radio no lights nothing and when put in gear it shut down, the 12 valve will run thats the simple part making it work with all the rest of the truck it the pain. to many computers to fool. now if you run stand alone gauges and light wiring to bypass that tipm then your ok

NadirPoint 01-27-2010 08:27 AM

If you wanted to spend the money to do a complete custom dash and associated electrical work to re-wire the entire truck it could be a very interesting, one-off truck. Assuming it was done right, a nicely modded P-pumped '05 12v would be quite unique. And expensive.

Unless you are willing and able to spend alot of money and time, it would probably end up being a kludgy beast that never worked quite right.

cerberus60 01-27-2010 09:49 AM

And after you get all that done the auto trans won't work right cuz the controls are in the ECU.

Its not the TIPM that sthe problem, thats only power distribution center. Its all the OTHER computers that control the AC, Alternator, dash cluster, ABS, etc, that won't like things.

A 12V into a CR truck is NOT for the faint of heart and by any means easy. Your much better off fixing the CR motor if you want the truck to be useful.

tltruckparts 01-27-2010 12:32 PM

dont forget about these new smog laws either. within the few next years all states will be requiring smog. when they pop the hood and see an 05 truck with a 96 or so motor in it, you will one truck that isnt worth a dime and cant be driven on the road

392hemix 01-27-2010 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by tltruckparts (Post 480961)
dont forget about these new smog laws either. within the few next years all states will be requiring smog. when they pop the hood and see an 05 truck with a 96 or so motor in it, you will one truck that isnt worth a dime and cant be driven on the road

Thats a f&*king piss pore additude. If you look at it like that then it will happen for sure, if wer fight off these tree hugging trouble makers maybe we can get america back and free it from the greenies!

cerberus60 01-27-2010 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by 392hemix (Post 481298)
Thats a f&*king piss pore additude. If you look at it like that then it will happen for sure, if wer fight off these tree hugging trouble makers maybe we can get america back and free it from the greenies!

Poor attitude or not, its a reality. Its not a matter of IF its a matter of WHEN. You think its bad now, take a look at the tier 4 requirements.

Beating him up for pointing out the obvious ain't gonna change the facts. :argh:


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