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DieselWeasel 11-19-2010 04:34 PM

O-Rings, Pictures, Myths, Facts and Info!
 
Just figured i would post a thread that could easily be found for people searching for info and pics about O-ringing their heads...

First some facts and fiction;
  • An O-ring does not have to be installed in the engine block
  • An o-ring does not need to have a grove cut in head AND block
  • An O-ring can be glued or more correctly pressed into the grove in the head
  • An O-ring is nothing more then a piece of wire put into a groove on the head that gives extra clamping force directly on the fire ring of the head gasket.
  • An O-ring protrudes past the heads surface to establish the clamping force.
  • O-rings require many heat cycles to clamp the head down to proper torque
  • O-ring wire is cut and filed down for a tight fit in the head
  • The gap on an O-ring should be near a head bolt to help keep it tight.

Here are pictures of my O-ring job done by Advanced Sleeve in Mentor, Ohio.

450$ Later (Machining, Cleaning, O-ringing)...

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3...8225920996.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4...8225937893.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/626...8225927972.jpg

400$ Head Studs, You should NOT use head bolts with O-rings...

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5...9164524988.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9...9164755348.jpg


Any questions? Just ask!

diesel pap 11-19-2010 04:39 PM

:tu:

crzycummins 11-19-2010 04:57 PM

good info:c:

dieselboy88 11-19-2010 06:45 PM

does that just help the headgasket from blowin out at higher boost and higher compression? pardon my ignorance. :argh:

LORDDiESEL 11-19-2010 11:09 PM

great info!

DieselWeasel 11-20-2010 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by dieselboy88 (Post 654640)
does that just help the headgasket from blowin out at higher boost and higher compression? pardon my ignorance. :argh:

Yes, in combination with head studs the rings help seal up things to over 75psi. I stretched my stock bolts and poopped the head gasket @ 35psi (and smill high boost spikes to 40psi) with the stock turbo. I ordered 130hp injectors and will probably have twins in spring. So it will need to hold strong.

jake 94 11-20-2010 11:43 AM

Can any machine shop do this and usually if I take it some place how much would it run me cash wise?

DieselWeasel 11-20-2010 12:04 PM

No its not some thing that every shop does. I had to call around some. Its very precise work. I am not sure what most places charge but for cleaning, resurface head and o-ring it was 450$. I will dig up my reciept and give a breakdown.

asmxb24 01-25-2011 10:31 AM

When is it necessary to do O rings? I am planning on running small twins with a hx35 over ht3b and was wondering if you thought i would need to o ring or i can just get away with a better gasket and ARP head studs?

arobertson 01-25-2011 12:25 PM

so they dont cut grooves in the head ether? they just glue the wire on or they only cut grooves in the head and not the block?


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