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DirtyDiesel58 02-03-2015 06:45 PM

1999 Cummins. No speedometer or odometer
 
Hey guys,
this is my first post and I must say that I have look at this website for a couple years and now I finally joined!

OK. So my 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.9l Cummins has an issue that I cannot seem to figure out and I have been looking for an answer for months.

My speedometer, odometer, compass/thermometer/mpg don't work. My ABS and break lights are not illuminated but they illuminate when I turn the key to "on" without starting the engine...

I have also replaced the VSS and the rear ABS sensor with no luck

Has anyone had this problem or know how to fix it? I would like to know how many miles I have put on each oil change and how fast I'm going lol :argh: :dang:

gh0stman 02-04-2015 05:12 AM

Is it throwing any codes? You should be able to get something using the key on-off trick.

DirtyDiesel58 02-04-2015 10:43 AM

thanks for your reply.

I have done the key trick and it came up with nothing and went through instrument cluster test and they all were fine. Now, I hooked up my OBD scanner and only after driving for long periods of time (around and hour) will the P0500 code come up but it won't come back for weeks at a time...:argh:

CJJD4640 02-04-2015 05:45 PM

I could be wrong but I am pretty sure the key trick will not work on a 99 truck. As for your gauge problems I would go under your dash and there is a very big connection for your instrument panel to the left of your brake pedal. It will have a white cap with a bolt in the center, 10mm I believe. loosen that bolt, it wont come out because it has a keeper on it, but once it is loose enough you will be able to undo that big connector. Try blowing it out good then plug it back in. I have a 99 as well and I would lose all my gauges at once, sometimes while driving. They would also go in and out of working. Every time I could loosen this and sometimes just plug it back in without blowing it out and it would be working again. I don't know how but that big connection can collect a lot of dirt and dust somehow. I even found a blade of old grass in mine. I do not have the mpg or temp in the overhead but I would think it connects into this as well. Oh and I would get a no bus where the odometer normally reads. Hope this help!

Oh, and when I was getting my no bus and no gauge issue my odometer didn't count any miles I had driven when it wasn't showing :/

bigdaddy0608 02-05-2015 09:15 PM

Does the tach still work? Is it chagong properly? How does the transmission shift? Poss bad pcm? I've heard stories of the pcm going bad and people lose all the gages except for the tach but all the dummy lights still work etc.

DirtyDiesel58 02-07-2015 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by bigdaddy0608 (Post 1086232)
Does the tach still work? Is it chagong properly? How does the transmission shift? Poss bad pcm? I've heard stories of the pcm going bad and people lose all the gages except for the tach but all the dummy lights still work etc.

Yes, the tachometer and all other gauges are functioning properly besides the speedometer and the odometer. As for the transmission shifting...takes a little long but I think that might have to do with the BANKS Ottomind that I just found out was on it today lol

I have checked the wiring to the rear differential ABS sensor and changed it along the the VSS on the transfercase/tranny. I'm not even getting the lights! I'm stumped!

Thanks for yall's input so far!

DirtyDiesel58 02-07-2015 12:05 AM

As for the key trick on it. It actually does work. idk if it was the beginning of when they started that or not? It went through the gauge tests and whatnot.

uncle mike 02-09-2015 02:00 PM

How about something simple
Have you checked any fuses?
If your ABS fuse is blown both your speedo and odometer will go out (ask me how I know hehehe ). :w2:

DirtyDiesel58 02-09-2015 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by uncle mike (Post 1086486)
How about something simple
Have you checked any fuses?
If your ABS fuse is blown both your speedo and odometer will go out (ask me how I know hehehe ). :w2:


Is the fuse in the cab or under the hood? i've check the fuses but i could have completely overlooked some.

uncle mike 02-10-2015 07:41 AM

It's under a small panel @ the left end of your dash (at least that's where mine is ).
There should be one marked for ABS.

Schlepdawg 02-10-2015 10:47 PM

That's easy
 

Originally Posted by DirtyDiesel58 (Post 1086098)
Hey guys,
this is my first post and I must say that I have look at this website for a couple years and now I finally joined!

OK. So my 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.9l Cummins has an issue that I cannot seem to figure out and I have been looking for an answer for months.

My speedometer, odometer, compass/thermometer/mpg don't work. My ABS and break lights are not illuminated but they illuminate when I turn the key to "on" without starting the engine...

I have also replaced the VSS and the rear ABS sensor with no luck

Has anyone had this problem or know how to fix it? I would like to know how many miles I have put on each oil change and how fast I'm going lol :argh: :dang:

Yes! And the fix is easy too! The clue for me was the brake drums. How do you have pesky ABS brakes using a drum with no tone ring? And: you don't! The data signal is pitched up from the rear pumpkin. On top of the Dana 80, is a small sensor. It had gone bad. Thirty bucks at the dodge dealer and fifteeninutes to install . Good Luck

P.s. Saw you already been there. Off hand I would say you have a wite issue between the sensor and the PCM . Could be a faulty input or output stage to the PCM. Hopefully not.

DirtyDiesel58 02-12-2015 06:31 PM

All fuses are good! I am stumped. I cleaned the connectors by the drivers side fender well too, and on the ABS unit.

DirtyDiesel58 02-12-2015 06:34 PM

If it helps. The original sensor on the rear pumpkin was cracked open...

DirtyDiesel58 05-01-2015 07:34 PM

Still no idea. I replaced the sensor on the rear differential again and still nothing. This is driving me crazy! No voltage drop, no lights on (Except the occasional CEL and the code is the VSS code), I am fed up with this. Can anyone help or is anyone experiencing this?

DirtyDiesel58 05-04-2015 02:28 PM

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DirtyDiesel58 06-07-2015 09:38 PM

So I figured it out after changing my rear differential fluid! I have no tone ring! Whoever rebuilt the differential last time just must have forgotten to install it.

Jet A Fuel 06-07-2015 10:14 PM

Thats some F'd up stuff Good job man.:jump:

cummins011 09-26-2015 12:06 PM

need help!!!
 
hello I have a 2001 cummins just bought for a pretty good deal of $5000 no rust at all 170k miles has 150hp injectors 165 air dog lift pump 4in turbo back exhaust with glow shift gauges it had a superchips tunner no longer in the truck thou ok I have no idea whats going on with the truck thou it starts fine if no power is need for the lights or ac but if I turn the lights on before start it will never start just keeps turning over turn lights off it starts right up once its running and I turn lights on it will bog down shift crazy all gauges read zero and reads no bus also my mph gauge does not work and air bag check engine and abs light is on please help !!!

gh0stman 09-27-2015 07:07 AM

Have you checked for codes?


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