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kemcclintock 12-29-2012 07:21 PM

rough at idle, white smoke, lack of power
 
Hi I'm new at this.

I have a 1998.5 cummins 24 valve with a fass lift pump, 4 in manderal bent exust. one mornnig i started it up and let it warm up for ten minutes and then drove two blocks down the road and it just up and died and would not restart. checked fuel pressure and had 16psi. cracked open injector lines and had no fuel. ran code scan and had a code for injection fuel metering malfunction a, and IP controller malfunction. I then had my IP replaced and now it runs rough at any RPM, lack of power and white smoke out of the tailpipe. still have 16psi after filter any Ideas ? Thanks

RanchhandTCR 12-29-2012 07:47 PM

So you have had you Injection Pump replaced already? and you have 16 PSI after replacing fuel filters, and you still have these issues. Now does you diesel smell like fuel or gained any oil. Because if you have diesel in your oil it indicates you have a bad injector.

Next set of questions do you have a programmer if you do, disconnect it and run the truck without it and see if it helps the problems.

If not, It can be Crank, or cam sensors. Even a map sensor. But lets keep it simple though first and also check your air filter make sure its in good shape.

WORSE CASE: You have poor compression and you need new rings.

Best Case: its something simple and its most likely simple.

kemcclintock 12-29-2012 08:19 PM

Yes i replaced the IP and no i do not have a programer, air filter is new and i will check the oil for fuel smell and there are no codes to read.

RanchhandTCR 12-29-2012 08:39 PM

Let me know if there is fuel in the oil..

kemcclintock 12-29-2012 08:56 PM

no fuel smell in oil

RanchhandTCR 12-29-2012 10:28 PM

hmmm, check all the connections to your injection pump, and check the fuses, how does it act when you accelerate.

kemcclintock 12-29-2012 10:55 PM

When I accelerate it runs rough like it has a miss, blows white smoke out of tailpipe and lack of power. Could these be caused by a bad turbo. It the cam or crankshaft position sensor was at fault it would show a check engine light right?

better_off_witha_diesel12 12-29-2012 11:55 PM

The 53 block would scare me the most:dang:

RanchhandTCR 12-30-2012 08:24 AM

Yes it can also be the turbo, and if it was the cam or crank you would see it in your tach too. And throw an CEL. And a turbo will cause a proablem also, but it happened after you replaced the IP. But im not gonna rule it out. As for the 53 Block it wouldent cause these issues if it cracked it would actually be difficult to tell if you had a anti frezze leak untill you ran it for some time. But I wouldent worry bout it. Im gonna be traveling home today so I will try to get on tonight after my 10 hour drive.

kemcclintock 12-30-2012 12:37 PM

OK today I started it and let it warm up to operating temp and broke open the fuel lines. When 2,3,5,6 where cracked open individually I got a change in rpms. When I cracked open 1 and 4 individually no change in rpms and the same both cracked open. There is fuel to them and I have replaced both injectors no change. Any ideas ?

RanchhandTCR 12-30-2012 08:16 PM

I was just about to tell you to crack injectors, hmm it can possibly be a head gasket if it sounds like it misses have you checked you coolant to see if there any contamination. You can perform a pressure test on the cooling system and see if there is a leak and a compression test. Did you happen to take a look down the injector holes and look at the top of the pistons to see what how they look, if they had some white color to them it indicates a coolant leak.

kemcclintock 12-30-2012 08:26 PM

Pistons looked OK and coolant was clean and its not overheating

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I might have just got a bum VP 44 ?

RanchhandTCR 12-30-2012 09:19 PM

Possibly who did you get it from?

kemcclintock 12-31-2012 05:34 AM

Oriley auto parts

DanLowe 12-31-2012 05:17 PM

That's the first problem. How much did they soak you?

RanchhandTCR 12-31-2012 07:57 PM

oh boy, is it a bosch bump or some offbrand injection pump.

kemcclintock 12-31-2012 08:44 PM

Ok got it running it was a simple fix when they installed injection line 1 and 4 switched
But I have a new issue when I was on my way home I stepped into it to pass a car and I got a pop and now I have what sounds like a knock any ideas ?

RanchhandTCR 12-31-2012 11:46 PM

they had injection lines one and four switched? how they manage that.... Now the knock scares me it can be a simple injector fuel knock or you just blew a hole thru the top of your piston. Who did the job for your where they an Auto repair shop or a diesel repair shop?

kemcclintock 01-01-2013 08:41 AM

It was a diesel shop they said they work on dodge but all that was in the lot was Ford's.
How can I tell of its an injector knock. Yes they and 1 and 4 switched

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If I blew a hole in the piston would I have fuel in the oil?

RanchhandTCR 01-01-2013 11:57 AM

yea you would have fuel in oil to test an injector knock go and crack injectors again and see if it quites.


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