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jdbigblue12v 06-08-2011 04:49 PM

should i sell it?
 
so i out my truck up for trade for a 5 speed and i had a call for $7000 cash for the truck. i wanted to know if anyone knows of a clean 5 speed 4x4 ext. cab 1st gen forsale. please let me know so i know to sell my truck or not

KD93 06-09-2011 05:07 PM

It might take a while to find one, but I'm sure you can if you're willing to travel. What sort of shape is your truck in? Miles, rust, mods or lack thereof? I'm just curious 'cause $7k sounds like a pretty good price if your truck is 'average.' I'd be over the moon if I got offered that for my heap.

sootnsmoke 06-09-2011 08:21 PM

5 speed EXTRA cab 1st gens. Lets see, I have been looking for 5 months now and I have seen 2 for sale during that time (4x4 trucks). During that time, I came across 2 extra cab 2wd 5 speed trucks. Thats 4 total. I am not talking just local to me, that takes into account the entire West Coast and up into Canada BC areas. They are freaks of nature, a true rarity.:dang:

jwirth 06-09-2011 08:27 PM

I want put a 5 speed in it I where you. at least you know you truck. Just a thought

KD93 06-09-2011 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by jwirth (Post 762161)
I want put a 5 speed in it I where you. at least you know you truck. Just a thought

THAT ^^^ is a very good point. G360 or NV45/5600 and you're good to go. :tu:

jwirth 06-09-2011 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by jwirth (Post 762161)
I want put a 5 speed in it I where you. at least you know you truck. Just a thought

WTF was I smoking when I typed that quote lol.
I would put a 5 speed in it if I were you. At least you know ur truck.
Guess I shouldn't talk on the phone and type.

KD93 06-10-2011 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by jwirth (Post 762241)
WTF was I smoking when I typed that quote lol.

lollol

justanother92 06-10-2011 08:57 AM

Yea i say go with the swap i have done it and it wasnt a big deal.:tu:

Longshot 06-11-2011 06:20 PM

You can go to NV4500 Transmissions - Adapters - NV4500 Conversion Kits | NV4500.COM they have the whole setup. I was wondering what you were on with that jibberish also

sootnsmoke 06-12-2011 10:46 AM

Longshot- The NV4500 adapter kit seems like a good solution at around 550 bucks. Guess you would just need to find a Getrag 5 speed crossmember and then modify it as required during NV4500 trans install. It would be nice if someone who has done a conversion put together a write with some photos or video.

jdbigblue12v 06-12-2011 01:28 PM

my truck has no rust everything works power mirrors power locks power windows criuse works and there is no major body work to be done may need paint in a year or 2 but i think i may just stick with it and do a swap

KD93 06-13-2011 05:53 AM

Dang man, if you have no rust and everything works you'd be mad to sell it. It's both a known quantity and it's not a sieve, which from what I've read is a rare truck in your neck of the woods. Invest a bit more money on the transmission and you shouldn't have to tough it for another 15 - 20 years, apart from routine maintenance. Heck, dropping say $2500 now, (as I pull that figure out of mid air) and divide that over even 10 years, is only $250 a year. You'll spend a boatload more than that on beer, probably. What's beer going to do for you in 10 years but give you a big belly? That truck'll still be running strong if you look after it. :tu:

t-bone117yamaha 06-20-2011 11:56 AM

i am also looking to swap my auto for a 5 speed but my father is against it because he thinks it is too hard to swap an auto to manual so how hard is it really? i have heard that the first gen has a cut out already in the floor board you just have to drill out the rivits? and is there anyone that sells a complete kit from auto to manual? thanks guys
Tanner

cummins smokin 06-20-2011 12:41 PM

My dad tells me the same thing when i bring it up too.. really want a manual trans... :dang:

jdbigblue12v 06-20-2011 10:48 PM

im just gonna end up doiung a 5 speed swap eventually

sootnsmoke 06-21-2011 12:23 AM

I was just reading the original owners manual the previous owner gave me when I bought my truck a couple days ago. I though it was interesting that the manual states the maximum towing capacity for a W350 with a Getrag 5 speed is 17K pounds but when equiped with an auto it is only 12K. That is a significant difference in my opinion. If you tow heavy, it appears that is definately the way to go.

KD93 06-21-2011 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by sootnsmoke (Post 765802)
I was just reading the original owners manual the previous owner gave me when I bought my truck a couple days ago. I though it was interesting that the manual states the maximum towing capacity for a W350 with a Getrag 5 speed is 17K pounds but when equiped with an auto it is only 12K. That is a significant difference in my opinion. If you tow heavy, it appears that is definately the way to go.

Just goes to show you how much faith they had in their crappy torque converter. Although, that capacity increased a bit if you had a tranny cooler installed.

In saying that, those are just numbers on paper. In the real world, things are a little different. The truck I currently own was bought by my wife in '96, (when it was stock and mint:tu:) who promptly towed in the vicinity of 20k all over the country for the next 8 years, with the only problem being a headlight switch burning out on her during that time.
When I had the tranny rebuilt two years ago, (just because) the hard parts were in perfect order. :rocking: Don't believe everything you read... :w2:

sootnsmoke 06-21-2011 09:28 AM

Perhaps the reduction in tow capacity for an auto was because they new the weakest link was their torque converter. Wow, 20k is heavy. How many miles did the trans have on it before you rebuilt? Did you ever tab the KDP on that truck?

KD93 06-21-2011 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by sootnsmoke (Post 765868)
Perhaps the reduction in tow capacity for an auto was because they new the weakest link was their torque converter. Wow, 20k is heavy. How many miles did the trans have on it before you rebuilt? Did you ever tab the KDP on that truck?

150k miles, and ... ahh ... no... :sad: I haven't killed that danged pin. :scare2:

t-bone117yamaha 06-21-2011 12:42 PM

i think the five speed swap is the way to go and then i think the nv4500 is the way to go everything i have heard about it says its bulletproff im shure the work is maybe not so hard but an extensive process that will be worth it in the end.:rocking:

jwirth 06-21-2011 03:19 PM

:pca1:

justanother92 06-30-2011 06:01 PM

I think i posted before on this. I did the swap in my sig. It went well just had to buy a new hydraulic kit, 350 bucks! Had to cut the hole in the hump. All in all i like it and have plans on swapping out my 95 strokers auto too!


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