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Chevy355mark 08-23-2011 11:10 PM

truck wont start
 
I ran the truck out of fuel and the injection pump started to hang up as its done in the past, so i shocked the fuel filter with 2 cycle oil and cranked it and the pump instantly freed up, it must have just been really dry. but the thing is it will only sputer after i bleed the air out of the system, then theres air in it again, i simply cant get the system to bleed. do i need to try harder or do you think the lift pump is bad? being that the pump has seized in the past that could easily indicate a bad lift pump, no?

so basically, the pump is free and working but i cant get all the air out of the system, thus it only sputters.... it ran fine before, all this came from running the truck clean out of fuel.

12vcummins96 08-24-2011 12:11 AM

whats the fuel pressure

94 12valve 08-24-2011 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by 12vcummins96 (Post 790229)
whats the fuel pressure

Great question :c:

PowerstrokeConvert08 08-24-2011 08:34 AM

the IP or LP is roasted...need a fuel pressure gauge to figure out which. running these out of diesel is one of hte worst things to do for fuel system components

Chevy355mark 08-24-2011 06:04 PM

i know its horrible for the fuel system, to make a long story short my brake line poped and i plowed down 2 trees and broke my tie rod and got stuck, everyone left and told me to come back for it but the truck would have been stripped if i did that so i spent the night with the truck and left it running. barely had enough gas to get it out of the woods and onto a flat bed.

how can i check the fuel pressure, do i need an adapter or a special tool? ive just got a regular fuel pressure tester that i use on my gas truck.

geddy's uncle 08-24-2011 08:56 PM

:pca1: morbid curiosity :pca1:

wizard 08-25-2011 06:38 AM

gas or diesel?

Chevy355mark 08-25-2011 08:57 PM

the fuel pressure tester is for my gas truck, i use it on the chevy in my sig.

Chevy355mark 09-01-2011 11:44 AM

Well i went ahead and removed the lift pump, a new one is on the way. the pump looks like its been replaced before being that it has regular black silicone smeared all over it, but it is a carter pump, made in usa. when i tilted it back fuel came out of the plunger area, wouldn't that indicate a ripped diaphragm? theres a relief hole near the plunger just like on a water pump, im thinking this is a weep hole to indicate a shot pump, am i wrong?

this truck is turning out to be a bigger headache then my gas truck, cummins reliability... big woop, run it out of diesel 2 times and it needs a pump? come on, my brothers duramax has ran out of diesel several times and he has never ran into any problems, an d the truck is twice as fast and twice as reliable as mine. so whats up with the p7100 being so great? Not to rag on my own truck, i love the truck and the fact that it comes with better front running gear then chevy but im starting to think theres a little bit of hype to these trucks.

dmaxkiller 09-01-2011 07:06 PM

is ur fuel shut off working? atleast halfass.... and it sounds to me like hole in a line somewhere... u say u hit trees and got stuck and all that good stuff could u have hurt a line and your suckin air? hit me up 620-277-8992 tyler

94 12valve 09-02-2011 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Chevy355mark (Post 793422)
Well i went ahead and removed the lift pump, a new one is on the way. the pump looks like its been replaced before being that it has regular black silicone smeared all over it, but it is a carter pump, made in usa. when i tilted it back fuel came out of the plunger area, wouldn't that indicate a ripped diaphragm? theres a relief hole near the plunger just like on a water pump, im thinking this is a weep hole to indicate a shot pump, am i wrong?

this truck is turning out to be a bigger headache then my gas truck, cummins reliability... big woop, run it out of diesel 2 times and it needs a pump? come on, my brothers duramax has ran out of diesel several times and he has never ran into any problems, an d the truck is twice as fast and twice as reliable as mine. so whats up with the p7100 being so great? Not to rag on my own truck, i love the truck and the fact that it comes with better front running gear then chevy but im starting to think theres a little bit of hype to these trucks.


you ran the pump out of fuel twice, have no idea what your fuel pressure is, and wonder why the pump failed or wonder why your truck isnt reliable? got news for ya, none of this is the trucks fault. As for the dmax ... just wait until it needs a set of injectors

Jerroh 09-04-2011 03:57 PM

If fuel ran out the plunger then its a good chance that is the leak...good easy way to test for leaks is to use a air pump ..i use one made for filling air matresses...i wrap a towel around thwe hose and stick it in the fuel filler. turn it on and pressurize the system with air. check for leaks. my biggest leak was on top the fuel tank. also clean your prefilter screen located under the pre heater, chances are running it dry may have caused you to suck crap into the system.

angelic0- 09-04-2011 04:38 PM

mod your truck like i've modded mine (my sig) and your brothers Dmax will be the least of your worries...

i've abused my truck in every single possible way, i had a dmax before put EFI Live on it this and that... suncoast IV transmission and ended up toasting the piston rings on it while racing a ford... stopped paying and gave it to repo....

not that the dmaxes are bad... i just like my cummins a whole lot better ;)

Chevy355mark 09-05-2011 04:24 AM

iv got the new pump and iv got an oil pressure guage that I'm going to use as a fuel pressure guage for the lift pump.


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