Smoke
 

Anyone know how to make it somke it ISA 95 12v cummins besides gringin the fuel plate

You could put a plastic bag over the air cleaner? (yes, this is a sarcastic response, but it will definitely result in smoke)

Why do you want smoke? Smoke is wasted fuel and excess heat....both generally BAD things...

If you would like more smoke (or power), you can move the fuel plate forward or custom grind it. You can also tune your AFC with a softer spring and dial the star wheel to its least compressed position (turn toward engine moving AFC spring pearch forward thus relieving any preload on the AFC spring), and turn the "smoke screw" all the way in which bumps up the initial max fuel position with zero boost. After that, you're looking at bigger delivery valves and bigger injectors... Just please keep in mind the added heat that smoke brings with it. Get some gauges to monitor EGT and boost, then start tuning for desired output without melting down the motor. Words of experience...trust me. :ouch:

get some 370 fuel injectors,pinch the wastegate,tune the AFC,staright pipe your exhaust,& to let ya know soot is unburn fuel so your wasting your diesel causing extra heat im all for rollin coal but its not always the best thing to build your truck for

:argh::argh::argh: light it on fire. works every time:w2:

disconnect your intercooler boots.

smoke is NOT power, contrary to popular beleif... wasted $$$$$ is all... people with high EGT, horrible fuel milage and a black trail of money following them are truly ruining motorsports in general. if you want it to really smoke ^what prison said

thanks rattle bomb. i'm glad theres still some out there that follow my belief

smoke is stupid unless you are making 1000hp on fuel or run enough nitrous/meth to keep the egt's down.

Originally Posted by wt_offroad
EH..... Cheap and easy way.... you can even get it at wall mart. Go back to the women"s section. Ask the clerk for a pair of extra large Granny panties. now go out to your truck and open the hood. put the panties on your head. take the bag they gave you and wrap it around the air filter jump in it and go. You will look just as dumb as the cloud coming out of the pipe..... :pca1:

if you want it to smoke take the plate out and the afc finger then it will roll coal.:rocking:

seriously.... with more power comes more smoke... on these 12v P7100 trucks at least...

I've not seen a single Cummins that doesn't smoke.... and not a single Cummins that doesn't smoke heavy if making over 300hp...

definition of heavy being more than that normal haze..

mine is putting out somewhere near 380hp and it does a little more than haze....

but it's still smoke, and if i put it in a heavy gear it wil smoke HEAVY !

don't try to tell me that it's not true !

However... smoke IS unburnt fuel !

There are a few trucks running with no smoke. Look up darren morrison, or team green. They both are over 1000hp, with no smoke. Just tune the AFC the right way.

idiots like you are the reason why we have to smog our diesels now.smoke isnt always mean power.yeah it looks badass but its also ignorant

It only looks badass if you have the power/flow to shoot it into the air like a train. If it just comes out in a light and fluffy cloud it looks like it is sick.

still doesnt look cool then

You don't like when a puller is blowing smoke 100ft in the air? there's something wrong with you son.

Do the truck a favor and put the plastic bag over your head and make sure and get the bottom good and tight. :tu:

I'd have to agree with madmikeismad on this. A puller blowing smoke 100 foot in the air is badass=Schied diesel pulling trucks among many others:yeah:

if you want your truck to look like it has power then put the shit under the hood that will GIVE it power. you dont need shit on the outside to tell people youve got bag, when your truck takes off the line and is gone a half second later, people will know youve got something special.

but, if you just want the cheaper way to make it look like youve got power, i hear each sticker you put on your truck gives you an extra 10hp xD

ok yea if you dont have enough air then yea smoke comes with power. but this guy is asking how to make it SMOKE, not asking about power... sorry to anyone I offend but excessive black smoke on a STREET truck is ignorant, gives motorsports in general a bad rep MAKE POWER NOT SMOKE

when its necessary its fine. smoke doesn't impress me. power and skill does

with people looking to black smoke comes emmissions this is why the new ford and dodge trucks come with eurea exhaust systems, wat you know bout the air coming out is cleaner than when it went in, and i feel like we are forgetting black smoke is a trade mark that gasser's cant produce and still be healthy lol

why does everyone make smart ass comaints whenever someone asks about smoke?i agree theres a time & place for it(every time i pass a ricer:tttt:) but there nothing wrong with a lil soot to start the day off

if your truck does it on its own but not when you try to make it smoke so you can feel cool

whoever said smoke is not making power, a waist of fuel, ect is a fool. what do you think all that extra fuel does? creates heat and volume in the exhaust, which in turn spools the turbo up. all that smoke is what it spooling that turbo up, and then not only did it spool the turbo up in a hurry, now you have all the fuel right there ready to go now that the motor needs it to run with all that air the turbo is now providing. a quick puff of smoke is typical of a diesel performing at its peek, its not a waist of fuel, not just too look cool. now putting it to the floor in 5th gear and rolling a cloud, yea thats a waist, its the price you pay tho... imo you simpky cant expect to make power without smoke especially on these trucks, the tuning is very limited, give it enough fuel to light up that turbo and run strong, its gonna end up smoking.

the starwheel is whats going to give you smoke and drive the turbo harder, its the adjustment for pre-boost fueling basically, the fuel plate determines how much fuel the pump is going to deliver. you can also crank the governor springs in 3 clicks, iv discovered that this makes an enormous difference, most people dont do it tho, not sure why. governer springs dial back your fuel with rpms, its what makes these trucks have such a horrible cruise, play around with the governor springs and its like moving the gas pedal back an inch basically, you just get alot more pedal where you used to cruise near the floor on the highway. its kind of funny to me that this motor is making so much power with literally 0$ invested into the engine, just turn up the wastegate, play with the pump, not even a set of governor springs for me, just cranked in the stock ones lol, talk about making cheap hp, nothing compares to these trucks!

EDIT: o yea, i forgot you do have to invest 6$ into a can of red paint... so it at least looks like it a badass engine, right? lol
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i painted mine blue to match my trucks paint

To much fuel to quick and you drown out the fire though. Alot of people dont even try or understand afc tuning today.

umm hoss your a fool. black smoke is unburned fuel. meaning theres not enough air for it to combust and since it continues the turbo is obviously not doing anything more. it can only spool so much. if you wanna waste your fuel and look like an idiot, destroy your truck and go broke go for it. i'll be laughing at ya when i go past ya

I turned my fuel up and I love it it's faster but no smoke I was fixing to sell it Bc it was slow and now I love my truck :rocking:

smoke is lagggg! build your truck the right way!

are you inbred?? exhaust smoke has never been or never will be cleaner than the air we breathe, at least not in colorado, where the F$%# you from cali???? do your diesel a favor and sell it.

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wow dude write a book on it.. smoke IS UNBURNT FUEL, wasted, if you can add enough fuel to give you more power without ungodly amounts of EXCESSIVE black smoke on a street truck go for it. but when its spewing out your tailpipe like diarrea its WASTEFUL! and with diesel at $4.00 a gallon go ahead and waste your "hard earned money" if you really think its cool. a little smoke before the turbo spools is fine, but you fuckers who ask about smoke instead of power are the reason for emmisions testing, end of story. IGNORANCE IS BLISS RIGHT???

im aware that smoke is unburnt fuel, once the turbo lights up you should no longer be smoking. all the fuel was waisted while your waiting on the turbo, its just what you have to put up with since turbos dont make boost instantly, if you want to not waist fuel thats fine, youl make the same power once the turbos spooled up and your on your way but everything is going to get going slower, the turbo will take longer to spool, and once it does then depending on how you have everything tuned you still may not have as much fuel as you could use because your so concerned with not making that initial puff of smoke that your really sacrificing giving it enough fuel to run at its max potential. tune it how you want, you can make it like a banks truck thats nothing more then a dyno queen but if you want the truck to run at its max, you have to put up with the first little puff of smoke before everything gets moving.

and honestly these trucks are an absolute joke to tune anyway, im arguing with people here who dont really even know what goes into tuning something real deal, iv actually tuned vehicles with one of them there fancy electronic fuel injection! i have efi live and tunerpro on my laptop and have tuned various vehicles and i can honestly say these old doges have very little fuel adjustments, fixed timing, really primitive peices of equipment, they really just end up smoking a bit if you want to get them in the ballpark. if you want to talk about smoke control you really need something with a timing table and a mass airflow sensor. a truck that actually does make close to the same power without dumping any smoke is a really finely tuned truck, your sitting here arguing me that you can get these turcks "fine" tuned with nothing more then a boost reference, rpm reference and a fixed amount of injection timing... really? lol

Yes there is fixed timing and some problems to be faced but a 12v can be tuned. Enough know how with an afc and your there. Are things going to be perfect, no. But in no fair way can you bring EFI live in here or something against a 12v, two totally different things.

wow........efi live and tuner pro.......coming from you i'm........not impressed. by the lack of knowledge you've expressed i'm waiting for your expertise to make a million horsepower :tu:

[QUOTE=RattleBomb7.3;726964]are you inbred?? exhaust smoke has never been or never will be cleaner than the air we breathe, at least not in colorado, where the F$%# you from cali???? do your diesel a favor and sell it.

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doesnt audi now have a car thats exhuast is cleaner than the air it takes in?

yeah, if you live in the city. personally, i choose to live where the air is crisp and clean and where america is still free

DAM RIGHT!!!!

Well then go get u a Toyota or some lil car lol:moon:

funny story is my dad has always said smoke is just unburnt fuel and ur wasting money... and he talked shit... until i started haulin cattle with him... i got right around 10 mpgs and he got 7... and i should easily have 200+ hp more than him.. i've heard the saying a perfectly tuned diesel wont smoke... i disagree.... if u are shoooting for the best combo of hp/mpg/and efficiency.. it will heavy haze pre-boost and all but clear up full boost... and even i still have them moments when i'm like i'll show this f&*^er and black stack him.. but mine does smoke because i built it for power... get your reasong straight and u will be golden bud...:c:

:choochoo::rocking: nicey put