vgt turbo on a 12valve
 

just wondering if it is worth it or if it even works to run a vgt turbo any more info about them would be awsome

It will take a hell of an expensive turbo, and a LOT of electronics to run it. The vnt on my Volkswagen is controlled by the ecu as well as by boost and vacuum. It's rather complicated, and since the 12v is 100% pure mechanical, I wouldn't hold my breath to it being a worthwhile swap.

somebody on compD has done it, running the VGT with a wastegate actuator. Working well for him I believe.

ya it works out real good on the 12valves, you have to use a wastegate actuator as state above to control the vains, and do some custom intercooler pumping and down pipe, i have also seen a guy running a 07 5.9 cr turbo with good luck on his 95

Yes the vnt mechanism is controlled by a wastegate actutator.. i'm not sure how the electronic portion is done though on a 12v? How would the ecu control everything if there isn't an ecu to begin with?

hense, "the waste gate accuator" there is no electrons, when the truck builds boost, the wastegate accuator opens the vanes to increase the exhaust housing size.

I figured you would be spouting off, jacka$$. Long time no speak.. you lose my number?

I'm no turbo expert, but at least on my volkswagen, the wg controlls when to begin opening to dump excess boost, and when to initiate the vnt (you can control the vnt opening points by toying with the ecu and the waste gate). So are you saying you can totally bypass the ecu and run it solely on boost/vacuum, in the case of a 12v truck?

on ebay there is vgt turbos for $300 off a 6.7 so the turbo it self are not that expencive how much boost would they push anyone know

it's not so much about psi, volume is what is important, but i'd say they'd push 40 psi depending on fueling, i've heard of guys hitting just a notch above 50psi on he351's so i'm assuming the he351vgt would be capable of the same thing

Sorry buddy but your on crack. A 200k mile garett vnt15 (oem) for my 1.9 liter volkswagen costs 5-600$ used and around 12-1500 new.

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$2,000 for a 6.4 vgt turbo ;)

EDIT: And thats a reman apparently... not brand new.

im finding buy it now he351vgt's for 200 bucks. i dont think he's on anything.

You can even use a spring with the right tension to control it the vanes will just open with exhaust pressure ... basic but still will work. I'm gonna be trying one out on my truck soon. I have all the parts except the he351:s:

Holyballs your right! Isht... I should just get one of these things for my volkwagen instead of spending 3x as much for a much dinkier turbo! lol

if any one does end up getting one one their truck let me know and will this lower my egt's b/c with the hx35 my egt's are too high not even towing

@85 305, there you go accusing people of being crack heads when your the one that needs to lay down the pipe:s:

Dan.. dude I'll wreck you and you know it. I'm getting another PSD. 7.3 6spd. This ones gonna be faster than my last. Get some.

zak, go look over at competiondiesel.com i can find a few threads for ya, everyone and there brother is putting on vgt turbos over there.

@85 305, all talk and no show, whats new

k thanks dan i'll do that if i do get a vgt someday after a while maybe i'll put a twin with it

take a look at the show and tell section...project rusty revival by mkriebs...hes got a 1990 with a vgt...maybe he can help ya out also

Dan lets not be silly here. If kyles truck can punk you, mine will wreck you.

If you can keep it running. :w2:

Oh believe me a powerstroke keeps itself running. It doesn't need constant maintenance like cummins.

a powerstoke not need maintance???? haha

hey does anyone know what the compressor wheel size is on these turbos? i heard they were a 62mm with extented tip, i just saw a write up were a guy put on his vp truck and it looks sweet along with the exhaust brake +++ the wheels are turning in my head now

Callin BS on that one!!!!!!! And I've had both the 7.3 and the 6.0
The only way a damn powerstroke keeps itself runnin is stock.
and even that is sketchy on a 6.0.
my 7.3 was always needing things fixed, and all I was runnin was a tune.

check out youtube there's plenty on videos on trucks running vgts on 12 valves and vp trucks. I think Fleece performance makes a vgt controller box so you can mount vgt turbos on about any damn truck out there.

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You can by a brand new Industrial Injection 6.4L twin setup for $2400 brand new and like $1800 for one from swamps. And you can buy a new reman 6.7L cummins vgt turbo for $950 and a stage 1 hyrbid vgt for $1400 that is a 64mm compressor wheel instead of like a 57 or a 60mm of the stock turbo. And the turbo from your volkwagen is expensive cuz its a volkswagen. I can get that turbo for 950.00

Oh buy one and you will become a believer brother. Ford makes the chariots that God himself rides in.

The 6.0 is a different story. I've never had a 6.0, but if you do the head studs and egr-delete they are great trucks. The 7.3 is a complete animal and is damn near bulletproof.

Those are some pricey turbos. They are absolutely worth it; vgt turbos are the coolest damn turbos, and give you AMAZING performance, but they aren't a dime-a-dozen turbo either like an hx35.

You can get a brand new vnt15 for 950$?

i had a powerjoke only last 120k before 6 bad injectors, 5 bad cylinders, leaking oil like a mother, turbo impeler wasted and tranny on its way out. both my 12valve are more abused than that ford and have 260k and 155k on them with no motor problems

also i worked at a diesel shop and on many 7.3s and 6.0s so im no stranger to them, 6.0s have alot more problems that just egr and heads

My PSD was a tank, wouldn't stop for anything. Never had ONE problem with it. My 12v had problem after problem with it. But both the 7.3 and the 12v truly are tanks. I love them both.

The price i quoted you was for a garret stock replacement from industrial injections

VGT is very doable. It just comes down to how you want to control the actuator, and there are several ways to go about that. You'll just have to balance cost and how much time you're willing to put in to make it work correctly.

What do you consider constant maintenance as? I change the oil in the 06 every 10,000 and teh oils in the 89 every 5000 or once a year... Thats it for maintanance other then the crap you should always check like fluid level, brakes, lights, ect....

My 12v had an assortment of issues. Probably due to prior owner neglect. I always had the thought in the back of my head "Am I going to get to where I need to be? Is my truck gonna be ok?"

My powerstroke, I never had ANY issues or negative thoughts.

So you judge almost 20 years of production trucks on one that you had that someone neglected?

Obviously everybody thats followed me in my 12v adventures knows I bought a lemon where the previous owner neglected it. Like I've said a few times now, I love both of the 7.3 and the 12v. They are both tough motors that pull like freight trains.