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450r racer 08-31-2014 04:01 PM

Glowshift gauge problem
 
Just installed the glowshift trans, pyro, and boost. I bought the wiring kit to just wire the 4 main wires together. I did everything by the book. The trans and pyro work great (trans takes a couple miles to read but whatever). My question is about the boost. I have a hx35 with plugged wastegate. It reads 21 at full throttle running 80. That seems a little low to me but that is why I'm asking. The bigger issue is the fact that the other two work great. They are bright and I can change the colors. But the boost is dimmer than the other two, is only red, and the button won't even move to change the colors. I haven't even peeled the sticker off the face of the gauges yet. Any help??

4x4manonbroke 08-31-2014 05:42 PM

Adjust the waste gate and see if it reads better ...

Also .. where did you install for boost reference .. I installed mine in the plug between #2/#3 cyl ... in the intake ..

I see 26 Psi .... :humm:

450r racer 08-31-2014 06:41 PM

Adjust? It's plugged. And yes I put it in the same spot

450r racer 08-31-2014 07:16 PM

Oh and this is my first boost gauge along with my first cummins. While running 65 it's only showing 4-5 lbs

4x4manonbroke 09-01-2014 05:30 PM

Ok .. sounds about right ... :tu:

JBearSVT 09-01-2014 05:34 PM

Welcome to Glowshift. Good luck.

4x4manonbroke 09-01-2014 05:50 PM

YEAH !!!!

I went Auto Meter .. havent been happier .. :tu:

wpg6.5 09-02-2014 09:13 AM

You won't see a heck of a lot more boost then 26 unless you have more fuel. What's your plate and afc set at? My buddy before his new turbo was hitting 35 max on his hx with a banks plate full forward, 50 sticks, afc housing full forward and some tuning with the gate plugged and a 4000 gov spring. Boost is fuel relative, aswell as timing and load.

gear_grinder 09-02-2014 10:19 AM

sounds about normal

glowshift gauges are very sensitive to electrical changes and deviations. sounds like the boost gauge has the switched power mixed up with the constant power wire (being only red and dimmer).

trans temp takes a few miles to read because the temp is probably below 100 degrees

4x4manonbroke 09-04-2014 11:39 AM

you wont see more boost pressure unless you adjust your wategate .. but if you havent gotten studs installed .. be careful .. as you could have a HG issue if you go romping on it .. especially when the enigine is cold or not fully warmed up .. :tu:

JBearSVT 09-05-2014 02:26 PM

I went from 21psi max (stock 12v) to burying my 40psi boost gauge with nothing more than fueling. I never once touched my wastegate, never got a "boost elbow", pinched any lines, or anything. Every time I hear about these things I scratch my head. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I still have a lot to learn about these trucks, but all these (for lack of a better term) tricks to get more boost out of a stock turbo- I just don't understand the point of them. In my experience, more fuel = more boost. That simple.

4x4manonbroke 09-05-2014 09:17 PM

yeah mine will not move more boost than what I see even with the fuel plate out .. it still is just stuck @ 26 .. I was told thats where my wastegate was set .. other than that ... good enough for me .. :rocking:

JBearSVT 09-06-2014 05:26 AM

I wonder if there's something different about the wastegate arrangement on the 98's. I know it's routed differently at least, because my line didn't go in where I saw it in any of the pictures I'd looked at for it which were all (I assume) older trucks.

4x4manonbroke 09-07-2014 11:02 PM

might had a better actuator on that turbo ? maybe bigger ? :humm:

JBearSVT 09-08-2014 05:23 PM

No idea. All I know is it was stock.

4x4manonbroke 09-11-2014 12:05 AM

"was" .. lol

JBearSVT 09-11-2014 06:44 PM

Well, that turbo still is stock... it just ain't on the truck anymore LOL

dieseldemon61 09-12-2014 04:58 AM

Check the yellow wire on the back of the plug. Same thing happened to me one time and that's what happened(my fault though)


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450r racer 09-13-2014 06:06 AM

Sorry have replied. Been busy as shit. So first off, it ended up being the gauge fucked up. Put 40psi off the compressor and it read 30... Plus my hose was pinched. As for the button it was stuck in. I guess if you hold the button down it will be that color. I grabbed it with a pair of needle nose and just pulled it out. Good as new... Not. Since then I have sent it back and got my new one yesterday. They were really cool about it. They may not be the most expensive gauges but gauges are gauges. I'm happy with them. I mean shit, my mechanic has a 800hp puller with an old oil gauge for boost. Gauges are gauges

450r racer 09-13-2014 06:12 AM

Oh and as for driving cold. I'm a farm kid so I know all about letting diesels warm up before pushing them. I got yelled at plenty as a kid for just hoppin in and going. And it's a welded gate, no plate, rack plug, turned up but not a lot. Smokes like a train before lit. Turbo cleans it up well for being stock. But no, I creep everywhere until I feel it's warm

JBearSVT 09-13-2014 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by 450r racer (Post 1073240)
Gauges are gauges

No. Quality, precision gauges that will stand up to abuse and remain accurate over time are quality, precision gauges that will stand up to abuse and remain accurate over time. Crappy, shoddily built gauges that will fall apart at the slightest provocation and often weren't remotely accurate to begin with (making them pointless to have) are crappy, shoddily built gauges that will fall apart at the slightest provocation and often weren't remotely accurate to begin with.
(making them pointless to have)

It's like needing a truck to pull your ten ton boat around, and backing a Honda Civic up to that trailer saying "vehicles are vehicles".

Bigg Redd 09-13-2014 10:01 AM

Point well made JBearSVT!

450r racer 09-13-2014 10:14 AM

Then don't abuse your gauges

JBearSVT 09-13-2014 06:31 PM

The abuse is the fact that they're taken out of the box and installed in a vehicle.

4x4manonbroke 09-15-2014 12:19 AM

I been wanting to take all the guages out of the original dash and install some aluminum flat black , and then runnign all new gauges ... wonder how much wiring I would have to manipulate for that to work out ? :humm:

Bigg Redd 09-15-2014 10:52 AM

When I first began to mod my rig, I bought glowshhift gauges thinking I got a good deal. A couple of years later my EGT gauge wouldnt register temps anymore, and my boost gauge suddenly read extremely high, over 50 psi. I have very conservative mods so 50psi is waaaaay out of whack. Got ISSPRO gauges to replace the glowshift, and love them. SHoulda done that in the first place.:argh:


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