A different kind of thread on Transmissions
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A different kind of thread on Transmissions
I've spent about 30 hrs total trying track down videos or information on the internet to figure out if I want to Build my Auto transmission, buy a built one, or swap in a nice manual. Taking costs, and brand specifics out of the decision, I just want to pick the transmission that will make me the happiest, and I'm starting to feel that the information I am looking for isn't out there and only personal experience will tell me, but that could be a waste of money if I decide I made the wrong choice, and I would like this tread to help others clear their head as how many threads there are on the internet about transmissions..
The questions I would like this thread to answer is;
1) What upgrades it takes for a Dodge Automatic Transmission to handle certain HP output.
As in, what will an Auto (Lets use a 47RE as an example) with a billet Flex Plate, Triple
Disk Torque Converter and Valve Bodies be capable of handling power wise. And little
Ad-ons here or there to be able to handle more power.
2) If going the route of buying a built Auto, Where would the HP output caps be for adding
billet shafts? At what HP should one add a billet input shaft to a built transmission, etc.
Also how often is it that a built Auto might have serious problems, such as reverse going
out, or something similar if any.
3) Finally if one were to go the route of having a manual transmission, obviously the choice of clutch would determine the HP capabilities, but how is the ride quality being matched with such a torque monster of the Cummins. Are the Shifts real rough, shaking the passengers heads after each shift. Is starting off from a stop a real jolt like some high HP cars can be? Or is it a pretty smooth ride, even in mild builds (lets say 500 HP as an example) where a passenger can sleep while one is driving.
As for me specific, and those few who can relate, I don't have a heavy right foot. I drive my truck like I want to keep it for the rest of my life. Drive it slow til it warms up, and even then I barely ever see WOT, but I have my days where I like to know how much power my truck has. I don't drag race, or tow that often. My rig is mainly a daily driver. Before my truck, I refused to drive an Auto car, as I just enjoy rowing gears all day. This is my first Auto.
Anyone with experience please share!
Thank You!
The questions I would like this thread to answer is;
1) What upgrades it takes for a Dodge Automatic Transmission to handle certain HP output.
As in, what will an Auto (Lets use a 47RE as an example) with a billet Flex Plate, Triple
Disk Torque Converter and Valve Bodies be capable of handling power wise. And little
Ad-ons here or there to be able to handle more power.
2) If going the route of buying a built Auto, Where would the HP output caps be for adding
billet shafts? At what HP should one add a billet input shaft to a built transmission, etc.
Also how often is it that a built Auto might have serious problems, such as reverse going
out, or something similar if any.
3) Finally if one were to go the route of having a manual transmission, obviously the choice of clutch would determine the HP capabilities, but how is the ride quality being matched with such a torque monster of the Cummins. Are the Shifts real rough, shaking the passengers heads after each shift. Is starting off from a stop a real jolt like some high HP cars can be? Or is it a pretty smooth ride, even in mild builds (lets say 500 HP as an example) where a passenger can sleep while one is driving.
As for me specific, and those few who can relate, I don't have a heavy right foot. I drive my truck like I want to keep it for the rest of my life. Drive it slow til it warms up, and even then I barely ever see WOT, but I have my days where I like to know how much power my truck has. I don't drag race, or tow that often. My rig is mainly a daily driver. Before my truck, I refused to drive an Auto car, as I just enjoy rowing gears all day. This is my first Auto.
Anyone with experience please share!
Thank You!
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I decided early on that I wanted an auto, so I can only speak to that, although there does seem to be a general consensus that once you start getting into bigger power numbers, a built auto is stronger than a manual.
I have been talking with Dave and Matt at Ultimate Transmission quite a bit lately as I'm hashing out an auto build myself. They think that a good quality single disk torque converter and a billet input, along with the rest of their typical buildup will be good for up to 450hp or so. After that, it's time to start looking at a triple disk and a billet output. Keep in mind, these guys have a lot of other custom tricks they use, so the power limits may vary with someone else's design. I would highly suggest giving them a call and asking some questions. They are more than happy to take the time, and they won't try to over sell you. If you can give them a good idea of what you are trying to build for power, and what you want to use the truck for, they can give you a good idea of what you need to build and spend on a trans.
I have been talking with Dave and Matt at Ultimate Transmission quite a bit lately as I'm hashing out an auto build myself. They think that a good quality single disk torque converter and a billet input, along with the rest of their typical buildup will be good for up to 450hp or so. After that, it's time to start looking at a triple disk and a billet output. Keep in mind, these guys have a lot of other custom tricks they use, so the power limits may vary with someone else's design. I would highly suggest giving them a call and asking some questions. They are more than happy to take the time, and they won't try to over sell you. If you can give them a good idea of what you are trying to build for power, and what you want to use the truck for, they can give you a good idea of what you need to build and spend on a trans.
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