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Old 02-17-2012, 10:52 AM
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I recently bought an 03 F-350 Fx4 Powerstroke 6.0, 186k miles. From what I can tell so far it's completely stock. I've heard some gripes about the 6.0 but they all seem to be revolved around mods. From what I've gathered, if left stock the don't seem to have many problems. Nevertheless, I would like to delete/bypass/remove the EGR system. But I have some questions. I've heard removing this component will avoid the problem of overheating the heads and stretching the head bolts causing head gasket problems. I've also heard it can give me more horsepower, and up to 2 mpg increase in fuel economy. My question is, are there any drawbacks or downsides to this? Will it cause any minor problems I need to be aware of? Other than the legal issues....to whom it may concern I do NOT plan to operate this vehicle on any public roads... That being said, I'm concerned about what mechanical effects this will have.

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Old 02-17-2012, 11:14 AM
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Glad u asked that I have had a few people tell me the same thing after I did my egr delete
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:35 AM
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Technically it is illegal to operate it on the road after an egr delete.

From what I have learned from this site the benefits out weigh the negatives. It is the EGR cooler that causes most of the problems with the 6.0 PSD. That in combination with the oil cooler.

There is s ton of info on here about the deletes. Do a search and you will be amazed what has been posted on the topic

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Yes, I'm aware of the laws, hence my disclaimer... :-)

I've read a lot of the threads on this topic and I'm confused about a few things. I haven't seen a clear distinction in the kits as to whether it removes the EGR system all together, or just removes/replaces the EGR cooler. I've come to understand that the cooler gets easily clogged causing it to fail, thus not cooling the exhaust fumes entering the intake. It also is known to boil the coolant, which I really don't want. I'd just assume remove the EGR system all together as long as it doesn't cause any major mechanical problems or have a negative effect on my fuel economy.
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The delete is just that - it deletes the cooler. Companies also make upgraded coolers.

Try this link - they have good info. I am no way a sales person or advocate for this company - they just supply good info. When I get funds and decide to do something I will most likey do a cooler upgrade not a delete.

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Old 02-17-2012, 12:20 PM
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"What are the draw backs to an egr delete?"

Not a damn thing, if you dont get smogged do it.

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[QUOTE=bkmac;860340]The delete is just that - it deletes the cooler. Companies also make upgraded coolers.

See, that's part of my confusion. Does it just delete the cooler, not the entire EGR system? If there are exhaust fumes recirculating into the air intake it has to be cooled, so I definitely don't want to delete the cooler and leave everything else. I want to remove the EGR system all together, meaning I do not want ANY exhaust fumes being recirculated.

And in this case, why do I need a kit for anything? Why can't I just remove the system all together??
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Originally Posted by ray486290 View Post
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I recently bought an 03 F-350 Fx4 Powerstroke 6.0, 186k miles. But I have some questions. I've heard removing this component will avoid the problem of overheating the heads Maintaining your cooling system will avoid over heating and stretching the head bolts causing head gasket problems. I've also heard it can give me more horsepower, and up to 2 mpg increase in fuel economy Don't hold your breath. That being said, I'm concerned about what mechanical effects this will have. Mechanical effects like peeling off EGTs quicker and better throttle response?
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The only drawback is you keep alot of money out of the repair shops hands. before you do the delete do a good coolant flush, I think there is a sticky on it, after flushing do the delete of EGR cooler, Do a rebuild on oil cooler/replaces the part that gets clogged/ and add a coolant filter... You won't have to worry about having any major issues with the truck being otherwise stock..

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The exhaust is taken from the up-pipes, routed through the EGR cooler, into the intake manifold. The EGR valve is what allows or restricts the flow of exhaust into the intake manifold. Once the cooler is gone, the exhaust can not get to the intake manifold.

You can do a full delete (removes the cooler itself, and replaces the stock up-pipe with the EGR cooler opening with a solid up-pipe, and you can either leave the EGR valve in or remove it, whichever)

Or you can do a "block off" by welding freeze plugs in both ends of the EGR cooler, that way it looks like everything is in tact for emissions testing (visual test) but no exhaust flows through anywhere...

Or do the upgraded cooler like that from BPD (what I would do if I lived in Cali).

There are a few different options out there from the $1 freeze plug method to the $600 GoGo manifold that actually removes material from the intake manifold so that coolant is never even routed through the intake manifold to begin with.

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