Cold start or long crank problem
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Cold start or long crank problem
Hello all I am completely new to posting but I have been reading for a month or so. I will post as much information as I can recall.
The problem is that the 2004 ram 3500 cummins will not start below 65 degrees unless the block heater is plugged in or I hit it with ether. Once it has started it will run great until it has sat long enough to cold soak. I have ran thro the air intake heater troubleshooting and even replaced the temp sensor. I have tricked the relay with a 9v battery and it still will not start. I have change fuel filters, air filters and both batteries.
I recently took it to a local diesel shop because I started to loose faith in my own troubleshooting. I informed them of all of my previous efforts. I asked that they look into the lift pump. The shop said this was not my problem. They requested that I approve $450 in additional troubleshooting to check the fuel injectors. I do understand that a small crack in an injector(s) could cause the fuel to bleed back and prevent me from getting the required pressure (5K psi I believe). So I took the truck back and started looking for tests I can run myself.
I have ordered the Miller line block tool. Having read many other post and talking with a person at Geno's garage my understanding is that I can block each (excuse my terminology if it is incorrect)output line on the common rail 1 at a time. My understanding is that if I block one off and I am able to start the truck it mean that the associated injector is cracked for worn.
My question is: Do I simply leave the fuel feed line to the injector disconnected with the output on the common rail pugged when I try and start the truck? Will this cause any damage? Can the fuel pressure back feed through the injector to the loose line? Am I missing anything?
If I find a back injector it is my intent to R&R it myself... Any thought?
One other pertinent fact about my fuel system is that I run aircraft fuel (jet a or the MIL cert version JP-8) I add stanodyne for additional lube.
Any help is greatly appreciated
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Couple additional notes
5.9L cummins
I live in Denver and the problem started in September at elk camp I did have to replace a surp belt that was coming apart at that time. Also I am at 137k miles. No mods other than the 5th wheel towing package.
The problem is that the 2004 ram 3500 cummins will not start below 65 degrees unless the block heater is plugged in or I hit it with ether. Once it has started it will run great until it has sat long enough to cold soak. I have ran thro the air intake heater troubleshooting and even replaced the temp sensor. I have tricked the relay with a 9v battery and it still will not start. I have change fuel filters, air filters and both batteries.
I recently took it to a local diesel shop because I started to loose faith in my own troubleshooting. I informed them of all of my previous efforts. I asked that they look into the lift pump. The shop said this was not my problem. They requested that I approve $450 in additional troubleshooting to check the fuel injectors. I do understand that a small crack in an injector(s) could cause the fuel to bleed back and prevent me from getting the required pressure (5K psi I believe). So I took the truck back and started looking for tests I can run myself.
I have ordered the Miller line block tool. Having read many other post and talking with a person at Geno's garage my understanding is that I can block each (excuse my terminology if it is incorrect)output line on the common rail 1 at a time. My understanding is that if I block one off and I am able to start the truck it mean that the associated injector is cracked for worn.
My question is: Do I simply leave the fuel feed line to the injector disconnected with the output on the common rail pugged when I try and start the truck? Will this cause any damage? Can the fuel pressure back feed through the injector to the loose line? Am I missing anything?
If I find a back injector it is my intent to R&R it myself... Any thought?
One other pertinent fact about my fuel system is that I run aircraft fuel (jet a or the MIL cert version JP-8) I add stanodyne for additional lube.
Any help is greatly appreciated
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Couple additional notes
5.9L cummins
I live in Denver and the problem started in September at elk camp I did have to replace a surp belt that was coming apart at that time. Also I am at 137k miles. No mods other than the 5th wheel towing package.
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