need some help sbc to 6.5 swap
#1
need some help sbc to 6.5 swap
I have a 75' scottsdale and a recently acquired 6.5 from a 94' truck with ~190kmiles I am swapping the motor into the truck, anything I need to know to make this happen? As far as I know, this should be a very straightforward swap, and the only other component I need is the Radiator, which I have. I do not know if the tranny is diferent, I have a th400 which it came with in the original truck. Is the torque converter, or flexplate different? Can I use the same motor mounts? I have poly mounts for the engine and tranny, and I'm not at all worried about rattling the fillings out of my teeth because I don't have any. I got a new belt, harmonic balancer, water pump, t-stat, and intake exhaust gaskets, and other associated gaskets. I am going to be wrapping the exhaust and intake manifolds with insulating heat wrap to prevent heat soak, and cyl no. 8 problem and overheating. I am also trying to source a good place to get good glow plugs from to put new glow plugs in. This isn't a complete rebuild, just a decent start on one. I want rather trouble free operation for a while, until I have enough money to run it on WVO.
thanks,
Kevin
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
it would be really great to get some feedback here, even a "screw off we won't help you" would be nice at this point, I have posted elsewhere with the same results and would really appreciate some help here.
thanks,
Sgt Kevin A. Davies, USMC
thanks,
Kevin
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
it would be really great to get some feedback here, even a "screw off we won't help you" would be nice at this point, I have posted elsewhere with the same results and would really appreciate some help here.
thanks,
Sgt Kevin A. Davies, USMC
Last edited by NintendoKD; 07-22-2012 at 04:33 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#2
Howdy there first off welcome and you will have a sweet truck when you can put it all together,first things first a 1994 model 6.5 has electronic injection which means unless you have the harness and fuel pedal position sensor PMD you will have to switch that engine over to mechanical injection which you will have to get a mechanical injection pump.Second you will have to switch the engine mounts you will want to get big block 454 engine mounts for a 75 model truck they give you the clearence you will need for your down pipeand turbo without cuting and modifiying the frame which may comprimise it's integrety.thirdly unless you put all the money you will save on not buying diesel WVO is not good for Stanadyne injection pumps as they use fuel for pump lubrication and WVO is not a good lubricant at all and as for youre trans I'm not sure how well it will stand up behind the 6.5 my 85 with a 6.2 in it has what the refer to as a TH 475 and as you probally know it has 65 HP less than a 6.5 and a whole lot less tourque good luck and keep us posted
The following users liked this post:
NintendoKD (07-23-2012)
#3
thanks for the info
Howdy there first off welcome and you will have a sweet truck when you can put it all together,first things first a 1994 model 6.5 has electronic injection which means unless you have the harness and fuel pedal position sensor PMD you will have to switch that engine over to mechanical injection which you will have to get a mechanical injection pump.Second you will have to switch the engine mounts you will want to get big block 454 engine mounts for a 75 model truck they give you the clearance you will need for your down pipe and turbo without cutting and modifying the frame which may compromise it's integrity.thirdly unless you put all the money you will save on not buying diesel WVO is not good for Stanadyne injection pumps as they use fuel for pump lubrication and WVO is not a good lubricant at all and as for your trans I'm not sure how well it will stand up behind the 6.5 my 85 with a 6.2 in it has what the refer to as a TH 475 and as you probally know it has 65 HP less than a 6.5 and a whole lot less torque good luck and keep us posted
items needed:
tranny switch
mounts?
IP, possibly
I want to go ahead and purchase everything this week and be done by Friday, no particular reason why.
Yes, I did correct all of your spelling mistakes, no I am not a teacher, yes, I am a bit crazy, what part of "Marine" didn't you understand? It is just a thing of mine, if I see it red, I feel I must correct it. All those years of typing up orders dammit.
thanks so far,
Sgt Kevin A. Davies, USMC
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
go here: and check out the neat little project I worked on in 2010 Metal Mulisha thought it was badass.
I also have a post here:
Last edited by NintendoKD; 07-22-2012 at 10:48 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#4
The following users liked this post:
NintendoKD (07-23-2012)
#5
a 96'???
well, found out today it is a 96' for sure. I know I'll need a mech IP, what else is involved in this process? is elctronic better, I hope not because I like mechanical.
which pump to use, I found a few at the junkyard. all are for v-8's there were three others, but they had been outside in the weather and the shafts wouldn't turn, doesn't mean they cant be brought back, but I don't want to mess with them. I should be able to use some components from the electric pump like the lines so that at least should not be a problem
roosa master
db2829vp 3977j
3436305 22510364
gold edition
roosa master
db2829vp 3973j
3427604 22510360
stanadyne
p9s4746fdj
64276431813300c91
which pump to use, I found a few at the junkyard. all are for v-8's there were three others, but they had been outside in the weather and the shafts wouldn't turn, doesn't mean they cant be brought back, but I don't want to mess with them. I should be able to use some components from the electric pump like the lines so that at least should not be a problem
roosa master
db2829vp 3977j
3436305 22510364
gold edition
roosa master
db2829vp 3973j
3427604 22510360
stanadyne
p9s4746fdj
64276431813300c91
#6
The following users liked this post:
NintendoKD (07-23-2012)
#7
*snaps fingers and slaps thigh* Hot Diggity Dog! thanks
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
Ok, so I'm going to have to rethink some things, maybe. I have a th400 tranny, which will work, but what will I have to do to it? I need to determine which of these pumps can be used. I also need to verify that the parts I already have will work. I have a lot more work to do. I thought that this would be pretty straightforward, but it doesn't look like it now. It looks waaaaay more fun.
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
anyone have a rundown on stanadyne part numbers?
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
I need to source an 831 pump to make this work, or, rather, I should be able to re-use the shaft etc from the electric pump, this should be interesting. the other two that I found will have to make suitable replacements to swap parts around and I'll need to source a nitrile seal kit for WVO use, to prevent the seals from going.
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
Ok, so I'm going to have to rethink some things, maybe. I have a th400 tranny, which will work, but what will I have to do to it? I need to determine which of these pumps can be used. I also need to verify that the parts I already have will work. I have a lot more work to do. I thought that this would be pretty straightforward, but it doesn't look like it now. It looks waaaaay more fun.
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
anyone have a rundown on stanadyne part numbers?
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
I need to source an 831 pump to make this work, or, rather, I should be able to re-use the shaft etc from the electric pump, this should be interesting. the other two that I found will have to make suitable replacements to swap parts around and I'll need to source a nitrile seal kit for WVO use, to prevent the seals from going.
Last edited by NintendoKD; 07-24-2012 at 12:03 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#9
I got that much, what I am wondering is if I can take the internals from the e-pump and swap them into a 6.2 pump to make a 6.5 mech pump that will work. As far as I know the only difference is the plungers size, which doesn't effect the inside housings inner dia. or inner workings.