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Old 07-08-2009, 11:15 AM
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Hi everyone.

Getting a "Sevice Now see Dealer" on the overhead but no codes detected by smarty.

Any ideas?

I did the key on and off 3 times and it gives me dashed followed by done. No code there either.

About 3 weeks ago - I installed smarty ME and egr+cooler delete along with 5" turbo back. I have had no problems and about 600 miles without any codes.

I did some searching but couldn't find an answer.

Any help will be great.

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Old 07-08-2009, 12:38 PM
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I beleive it will just go away eventually... But Im sure someone knows better then me.

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Old 07-08-2009, 12:42 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply FarmDiesel. I hope you are right. I like my truck better now than ever.

It is kinda scary when you get the truck complaining to me without any codes though.
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:45 PM
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Yeah, I have had a DPF delete for a year now, with nothing but codes... I got smarty and unplugged the old software, deleted my EGR... And DAMN the truck runs good.
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:24 PM
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Try taking your Smarty and go through the process to show codes. When it says NO DTC and goes back to the prompt to either check for codes or delete the codes, press delete codes.

After dead batteries a couple of times, my truck had several lights come on, on the dash but no codes. I tried the above and all went back to normal.

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Old 07-08-2009, 03:28 PM
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Sure it's not just a standard maintenance-interval, need-an-oil-change light?


How do you clear the maintance interval timer?

Turn key to "Run" with engine off, hold accelerator at 100%, pump brakes three times, release accelerator, put accelerator at 100%, pump brakes three times, release accelerator pedal?

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Old 07-08-2009, 09:50 PM
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Thanks for all the responses.

Tried clearing the non-codes with the Smarty and the notifications still comes on when I start the truck.

I also tried clearing the maintenance-interval by following the instructions posted to no avail.

I am used to clearing the oil change notification after oil changes. It might be some maintenance thing though.

Is there anything I can post that will help you help me in this dignosis?

Thanks everyone

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Just a little more info.

The overhead reads "system ok" for the first few seconds. When I start the truck it flashes "Service Required -> see dealer now". If I move off of this screen it acts normal and I can not return to the error screen.

Truck seems to run ok - gauges look fine, no smoke.

I looked at the connections I removed while installed the new exhaust, smarty and things and they all look ok.

Mileage is 29,645 if that helps.

Possibilities? I do not know of any custom shops here in Las Vegas.

Thanks for any advice.

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I think it might be something with my install of the Smarty.

I removed the exhaust and all its connections (o2s, egt's, etc...). I left only the connection on top of the tranny plugged in. per MADS instructions.

I found another post on another site
Service required see dealer now. - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum

It sounds like my problem - but I thought the smarty addressed this?

I am going to reach out to Rollin-smoke (place I bought the smarty, delete, and exhaust) for help.

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Old 07-09-2009, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Begle1 View Post
Sure it's not just a standard maintenance-interval, need-an-oil-change light?


How do you clear the maintance interval timer?

Turn key to "Run" with engine off, hold accelerator at 100%, pump brakes three times, release accelerator, put accelerator at 100%, pump brakes three times, release accelerator pedal?
Turn the key to the ON position, pump the accelerator 4 times to the floor. Turn the key back off. Service interval dinger should be gone. I did that when my oil change reminder came on at 7500. I'm at a hair over 27k now and it hasn't come back.

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Old 07-09-2009, 02:04 AM
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Sounds like you might want to change your oil...
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:44 AM
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What you have is a problem with the emissions delete. my first question would be what mileage did you do the delete? have you ever had the turbo/egr cleaned before the delete? I would find a tech that can do the clean on the side and slide him a few bucks. OR you can try to reset the entire system to see if that works.

READ CAREFULLY BEFORE DOING!!!

set truck back to stock (on smarty). then REMOVE ALL BATTERY CABLES. make sure you remove them all or you will be frying modules! after ALL battery cables have been removed touch the negative cable to the positive cable, wait 5 minutes then reinstall all cables. What this does is discharge the capacitors within the ECM. It does no damage (unless you don't remove all battery cables). It also resets the ECM back to base parameters and you will have to drive the truck a few miles so that the ECM does a re-learn. After you get everything re-installed, load the smarty (ME12) and report back to us.



The following is a description of the overhead console and its functions and displays.

OPERATION


The Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC) uses both non-switched and ignition switched sources of battery current so that some of its features remain operational at any time, while others may only operate with the ignition switch in the On position. When the ignition switch is turned to the On position, the EVIC display will return to the last function being displayed before the ignition was turned to the Off position.

The EVIC system is comprised of several different components that communicate over the Controller Area Network (CAN) Data Bus. If the system is inoperative a scan tool and the appropriate diagnostic information must be used to diagnose the system.

The EVIC push buttons are used to operate the different functions of the EVIC system. Pressing and releasing the MENU button (1) will change the mode displayed to one of the Personal Settings. The STEP button (2) is used to make a selection from the Personal Settings displayed at that time. Pressing and releasing the C/T (compass/temperature) button (5) will cause the EVIC to return to the compass/temperature/trip computer display mode from any other mode. From the compass/temperature/trip computer display mode the STEP button (2) is used to scroll through and make selections in the Trip Functions. Pressing and releasing the RESET button (4) resets the trip computer screen displayed at that time.


EVIC DISPLAY MODES


SYSTEM STATUS MODE
Displays warnings and user interaction messages. Critical text warnings will be displayed until the failure is corrected. Non-critical text warnings will be displayed for 60 seconds. The driver can scroll to view multiple messages by using the STEP button.

When the appropriate conditions exist, the EVIC displays the following messages:

TURN SIGNALS ON (with a continuous warning chime)
RKE BATTERY LOW (with a single chime)
PERSONAL SETTINGS NOT AVAILABLE – Vehicle Not in Park
LEFT/RIGHT FRONT DOOR AJAR (one or more, with a single chime if speed is above 1 mph)
LEFT/RIGHT REAR DOOR AJAR (one or more, with a single chime if speed is above 1 mph)
DOOR(S) AJAR (with a single chime if vehicle is in motion)
LOW WASHER FLUID (with a single chime)
SERVICE PARK ASSIST SYSTEM (with a single chime)
OIL CHANGE REQUIRED (with single chime)
LEFT FRONT TURN LAMP OUT
RIGHT FRONT TURN LAMP OUT
LEFT REAR TURN LAMP OUT
RIGHT REAR TURN LAMP OUT
SERVICE PARK ASSIST SYSTEM
SERVICE AIR FILTER
SERVICE CCV FILTER
COOLANT LOW
ESP SYSTEM DEACTIVATED
AUTO HIGH BEAMS ON
AUTO HIGH BEAMS OFF

NOTE: Depending on the build date of your vehicle or if the vehicle software has been updated, the EVIC will display one of the two following sets of messages.
Set One
CATALYST FULL SEE OWNER MANUAL
CATALYST STAT lllll 99%
CATALYST FULL SERVICE REQUIRED
Set Two
EXHAUST SYSTEM – REGENERATION REQUIRED
EXHAUST FILTER XX% FULL
SERVICE REQUIRED - SEE DEALER NOW
EXHAUST SYSTEM - REGENERATION COMPLETED
EXHAUST SYSTEM - REGENERATION IN PROCESS
EXHAUST FILTER FULL - POWER REDUCED SEE DEALER


PERSONAL SETTINGS MODE (CUSTOMER PROGRAMMABLE FEATURES)
Allows the driver to set and recall features when the transmission is in Park by pressing and releasing the MENU button until Personal Settings is displayed in the EVIC. If the transmission is not in PARK the EVIC will display NOT AVAILABLE and VEHICLE NOT IN PARK. The following personal settings can be set and recalled by pressing the STEP button:

“LANGUAGE” – When in this display you may select one of three languages for all display nomenclature, including the trip functions. Press the RESET button while in this display to select English, Espanol, or Francais. Then, as you continue, the information will display in the selected language.
“AUTO DOOR LOCKS > YES” – When ON is selected, all doors will lock automatically when the vehicle reaches a speed of 15 mph (24 km/h). To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “ON” or “OFF” appears.
“AUTO UNLOCK ON EXIT > YES” – When ON is selected, all doors will unlock when the vehicle is stopped and the transmission is in the P (Park) or N (Neutral) position and the driver's door is opened. To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “ON” or “OFF” appears.
“RKE UNLOCK DRV DR 1st” – When DRV DR 1st is selected, only the driver's door will unlock on the first press of the remote keyless entry unlock button. When Driver Door 1st Press is selected, you must press of the remote keyless entry unlock button twice to unlock the passenger's doors. To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “DRV DR 1st ” appears.
“RKE UNLOCK ALL DR 1ST” – When All ALL DR 1ST is selected, all of the doors will unlock on the first press of the remote keyless entry unlock button. To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “All DR 1st” appears.
“SOUND HORN W/LOCK > YES” – When ON is selected, a short horn sound will occur when the remote keyless entry “Lock” button is pressed. This feature may be selected with or without the flash lights on lock/unlock feature. To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “ON” or “OFF” appears.
“FLASH LIGHTS w/LOCK > YES” – When ON is selected, the front and rear turn signals will flash when the doors are locked or unlocked with the remote keyless entry transmitter. This feature may be selected with or without the sound horn on lock feature selected. To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “ON” or “OFF” appears.
“HEAD LAMP OFF DELAY > 0 SEC” – When this feature is selected, the driver can choose to have the headlights remain on for 0, 30, 60, or 90 seconds when exiting the vehicle. To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “0,” “30,” “60,” or “90” appears.
“KEY OFF POWER DELAY > OFF” – When this feature is selected, the power window switches, radio, hands–free system (if equipped), DVD video system (if equipped) and power outlets will remain active for up to 60 minutes after the ignition switch is turned off. Opening a vehicle door will cancel this feature. To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “Off,” “45 sec.,” “5 min.,” “10 min.” appears.
“ILLUMINATED APRCH > OFF” – When this feature is selected, the headlights will activate and remain on for up to 90 seconds when the doors are unlocked with the remote keyless entry transmitter. To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “OFF,” “30 sec.,” “60 sec.,” or “90 sec.” appears.
“UNIT IN > US/METRIC” – The EVIC, odometer can be changed between English and Metric units of measure. To make your selection, press and release the RESET button until “US” or “METRIC” appears.
“COMPASS VARIANCE > 1” – Press the RESET button to change the compass variance setting. (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8M - Message Systems/Overhead Console/CENTER, Electronic Vehicle Information - Standard Procedure) for additional information.
“COMPASS CALIBRATE > YES” – Press the RESET button to calibrate the compass. (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8M - Message Systems/Overhead Console/CENTER, Electronic Vehicle Information - Standard Procedure) for additional information.

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