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Old 08-03-2009, 08:16 AM
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i think my tranny is slippin just a little bit in o.d.the only time i notice any problem is if it's in high gear and i mat it,when the turbo lights i feel a slight vibration,and it kinda feels like it slips a little.how do you adjust the bands,i've got an idea,i just thought i'd ask.
 
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  • 1994
    • Front Band - tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 2-1/2 turns
    • Rear Band
      • 32/42RH - Tighten to 72 in-LB, back off 4 turns
      • 36/37/46/47RH - Tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 2 turns
  • 1995
    • Front Band
      • 42RH - tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 2-1/4 turns
      • 46RH - tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 2-7/8 turns
      • 47RH - tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 1-7/8 turns
    • Rear Band
      • 42RH - tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 4 turns
      • 46RH - tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 2 turns
      • 47RH - tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 3 turns
  • 1996
    • Front Band - tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 2-7/8 turns
    • Rear Band - tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 2 turns
  • 1997 [From: "Paul R. Haller" To: DiRT]
    • Front Band
      • 46RE - tighten screw to 8N.m or 72 inch pounds, back off 2 7/8 turns
      • 47RE - tighten screw to 8N.m or 72 inch pounds, , back off 1 7/8 turns
    • Rear band
      • 46RE - tighten screw to 8N.m or 72 inch pounds, back off 2 turns
      • 47RE - tighten screw to 8N.m or 72 inch pounds, back off 3 turns
    • The adjustment screw inside the case is a square head bolt. You will need a special 1/4 square head socket to fit your torque wrench.
  • 1998 unknown
  • 1999
    • Front Band
      • 47RE - tighten band adj. screw to 72 inch pounds, back off 1 7/8 turns
      • 42 RE - The final adjustment for the front band has been changed to:
        • back off 3 turns. (TSB 21-16-98)
    • Rear Band
      • 47RE - tighten band adj. screw to 72 inch pounds, back off 3 turns
      • The 47RH rear band requires a 1/4" hex driver, the front band requires a T-30 Torx driver, the filter is held in place by two screws which require a T-20 Torx driver
  • 2000-2001
    • Front Band
      • 42RE - Tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 3 turns
      • 44RE - Tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 1 7/8 turns
      • 46RE - Tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 2 7/8 turns
      • 47RE - Tighten to 72 in-lb, back off 1 7/8 turns
        From Bill Konolday's 47RE notes: I usually go a little looser than factory specs on this front band - backing off the adjustment screw 2 or 2 1/4 turns. Depending on the circumstances I have backed off the band up to 2 1/2 turns.
    • Rear Band
      • 42RE - tighten band adj. screw to 72 inch pounds, back off 4 turns
      • 44RE - tighten band adj. screw to 72 inch pounds, back off 4 turns
      • 46RE - tighten band adj. screw to 72 inch pounds, back off 2 turns
      • 47RE - tighten band adj. screw to 72 inch pounds, back off 3 turn
These 2 pics show the lock nut and the adjusting torx T-40 screw.
This is the front band adjustment on the drivers side of the transmission.
Disengage the spring from the lever so your wrench will have some working room.
Back off the nut about 5 turns and then torque the torx screw to 72 inch lbs. Then
I backed off the torx screw (1 7/8 turns). You must do this! Failure to back off the
torx will result in transmission damage! Then re torque the nut 30ft lbs. Don't forget
to re attach the spring to the lever.
Remove the tranny pan and filter to access the rear band adjustment.
Back off the nut about 5 turns and torque the torx screw to 72 inch lbs. Then
I backed off the torx screw (3 turns). You must do this! Failure to back off the
torx will result in transmission damage! Then re torque the nut 25ft lbs.
Install the new filter and pan, refill with ATF+4 and enjoy!
 
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good info
 
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:12 PM
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Ya, i used that same info last fall, worked good for a few months, but its acting up again, you should adjust evey 20,000 miles min, unless you have a light foot and don't tow. then you could get away with doing it every 30,000. IMO. I like to do it every 12,000. i do transmission fluid changes every 9,000 miles just for good measures, and i have never had a bad dodge trans, till i bought this cummins and beefed it up...Cant take the tourque. Good luck with it and take your time.....
 
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Wtf trans was shifting fine locking up at 40 mph, seemed to be slipping a little bit on hills with a heavy load. So I adjusted the front band exactly to spec, now it doesn't want to shift out of first , it will only shift with a slight release of the throttle ,then shifts through thr rest of the gears fine.everything else seems to work the same as before. I tried adjusting the tv cable but had no noticeable change. Does anyone have any suggestions of what I've done. I'm at a loss, please help me .
 
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Old 08-28-2014, 03:10 PM
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RE-adjust .. something not adjusted right ...

How much have you driven since the adjustment ?

Need to make sure the trans is up to temp and correct fluid level .. did you change anything else ?
 
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your throttle valve cable is too tight and you cant adjust OD it is a clutch pack that is assembled to a spec. not adjustable.
 
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Thanks for replying to my question. I did re adjust the band three separate times trying to be exact on the adjustment without any luck. I also adjusted the tv cable,no luck there either. I have driven the truck about fourth miles like this, kind of like a standard trans till 2nd gear, then it seems like normal. Just another thing ,before I adjusted anything,at about 50 mph I would have to release the throttle just slightly to shift into od. I don't think that is normal operation, but it worked and I got used to doing that. This is my first cummins and I have not driven in any others. Thanks again for your info , Neale
 
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Originally Posted by Neale sword
before I adjusted anything,at about 50 mph I would have to release the throttle just slightly to shift into od. I don't think that is normal operation,
It isn't, and that is an indication of improperly adjusted TV cable as well. If the cable is set correctly, the next thing to look at is the TPS. There's a tutorial floating around here somewhere for checking the voltages to make sure it's in spec...
 
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Old 09-04-2014, 11:47 AM
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I replaced my TPS as mine wasnt shifting into lock up and OD till way to late .. then I had to adjust my accelerator linkage ( the metal linkage from pedal to IP ) .. now it shifts awesome !!!!

If your having issues shifting from 1-3 .. its a VB issue and or pressure issue .. 4th and Lock up are going to be TPS and Speed sensor issues .. if it down shifts too early or with minimal pedal .. then go to TV cable .. ( this is how I adjusted mine ... shifts great and not to early or late .. ) .. NOTE : . this did take some time .. and tuning to get it right ..
 




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