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usmc_0331 06-16-2010 03:51 PM

anyboby running 19.5???
 
Looking at getting them for my truck, I've heard theyre alot more cost effective with comercial tires as opposed to regular tires.. Anybody have any experiance with these???

Dr. Evil 06-16-2010 04:08 PM

Whit and Uncle Bubba both have 19.5" wheels

usmc_0331 06-16-2010 06:33 PM

alright thanx man, ill pm them

Dr. Evil 06-16-2010 07:00 PM

Dont worry - they wil get to this.

Russ Roth 06-16-2010 07:27 PM

I have a set of 8R19.5 Goodyear G171's on my '67 PW. Probably not the size to use on a Ram but they work quite well on the PW. I think about all you can get in 19.5 tires are commercial ones and they are pretty expensive. :scare2: :scare2: :dang:

Whit 06-16-2010 07:36 PM

I am on my second set now, got 120k nout of the first set and yes they are more cost effective and also have a 6400 lb payload which is equal to a duelly, my only complaint is they are stiff so a set of airbags would really be a nice compliment

Uncle Bubba 06-16-2010 07:44 PM

Worth every damn dime your gonna spend on em. Just be sure you go with the Rickson's that are an exact fit for these trucks and not some of the other companies that sell you semi rims and you have to run adapters. Everybody always argues with me about that because "the other " companies are cheaper so that's what they want to use but those adapters kill your wheel bearings. After they have em for a while they start believing me.

You will also make up the cost in the long run because 1 set of the 19.5 tires will go 100,000 miles, no problem. About 4 set's of good conventional tires and they cost about the same as a good set of conventional tires.

I will say they aren't much good in mud though, and that is proven fact on my truck. Fine for snow and everything else but if I piss on my tire while i'm parked at the barn, I'm in 4WD to get out. That is the only drawback I've found to them, period. Everything else is positive.

I never track my mileage myself but you will see a slight increase just due to the hardness of rubber creating less rolling resistance.

Most of these tires are no more expensive then a good set of the conventional tires are.

These are my next set if I ever get to order new ones. http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/m608z

usmc_0331 06-16-2010 09:08 PM

thanx for the input guys!

blacktruck 06-18-2010 07:50 AM

A little taller please.......
 
I'm lookinng at a set too. I do some hauling with my truck so I'm interested in the longer tire life. How much of a difference will it make in the final gearing? I will get my ECM updated to reflect the new tire size but how will it pull the weight? At the present time I don't have a chip in it but I'm not opposed to getting one. Any comments are welcome here..
Stay safe out there.
Ken

K204DR 06-22-2010 07:52 PM

what pressure do you guys run in your 19.5's? does it help to run a lower air pressure or is the sidewall just too stiff to make a difference?

Uncle Bubba 06-22-2010 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by blacktruck (Post 575487)
I'm lookinng at a set too. I do some hauling with my truck so I'm interested in the longer tire life. How much of a difference will it make in the final gearing? I will get my ECM updated to reflect the new tire size but how will it pull the weight? At the present time I don't have a chip in it but I'm not opposed to getting one. Any comments are welcome here..
Stay safe out there.
Ken

The final tire diameter on most of these is only about 33 inches and that's all that counts for gearing. From stock size you will see some difference in torque but it's not significant. Stock tires IIRC are like 31 inches.


Originally Posted by K204DR (Post 578043)
what pressure do you guys run in your 19.5's? does it help to run a lower air pressure or is the sidewall just too stiff to make a difference?

Personally I don't think it matters much. With no air they still sit upright and don't even look flat. Mine are marked with a max pressure of 115 I think and I keep them at about the 100psi mark.

cowboyjack 06-22-2010 11:44 PM

We live out on a ranch and do a lot of hauling and am thinking about the 19.5 Ricksons and tires... Can I ask why you like the Toyos? How is the ride with the stiffer tires?

blacktruck 06-23-2010 12:10 AM

Torque or lack thereof.......
 

Originally Posted by Uncle Bubba (Post 578048)
The final tire diameter on most of these is only about 33 inches and that's all that counts for gearing. From stock size you will see some difference in torque but it's not significant. Stock tires IIRC are like 31 inches.



It's a difference of about 65 revolutions per mile. That sounds significant to me. It would slow down the final gearing but how much? Would it change the performance of the truck much at all?

Dr. Evil 06-23-2010 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by Uncle Bubba (Post 574567)
These are my next set if I ever get to order new ones. M608Z | Toyo Tires

Those are good looking tires. Any idea what they are worth?


Are you running balancing beads on yours?

Uncle Bubba 06-23-2010 01:23 AM

I run these wheels on a farm truck that hauls heavy during hay season, up to around 30,000 on a load with 3:55 gears and a 5 speed tranny. I tend to max out the pulling power of this truck but these wheels made very little difference in this, I was maxing it out before they were mounted also.

There's gearing calculator's all over the net that will give you specific's on actual numbers, but seat of the pants feel was very little on pulling power lost and some of it was made up for, I'm sure with the improvement on rolling resistance with these tires compared to D and E rated tires.

These trucks already ride so stiff that I felt no difference in ride quality myself with these wheels.

Uncle Bubba 06-23-2010 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by Dr. Evil (Post 578227)
Those are good looking tires. Any idea what they are worth?


Are you running balancing beads on yours?

I searched the net and found them for $230 per tire and then the old ones have a core refund on them so in the end it comes up to about $180 per tire, give or take a little for the going core rate at the time.

I don't have beads in the current ones but I bought them as a package already mounted and had weights. From here on out it will definitely be sort of beads though. If ya go to any sporting goods dept of a dept store they sell the overgrown rubber BB's. When ya mount the tire you just dump some of them in. Works the same way as the beads but won't clog the valve stem.

Dr. Evil 06-23-2010 01:39 AM

What are these overgrown rubber bbs for? if you go on the innovative balancing website you should be able to have an idea of how many ounces to add to those tires instead of guessing.

Ive been running beads for awhile - never had the problem your talking about.

Uncle Bubba 06-23-2010 01:49 AM

We've been tinkerin with these in some jeeps and other off roaders and they work great. Just sounds funny in most gassers cause you can hear them rollin around when you stop and go but I don't think that's gonna be an issue in our trucks. http://www.hobbytron.com/Ukarms5000B...XBAGGREEN.html

The bags of beads work great and I'd use them in a heartbeat myself. Once in a while the bags break open though and in cold weather they coagulate in the valve stem when this happens. They recommend that you use the gas, Nitrogen I think to fill your tires when usin these beads.

And you know me, I can't do nothin the normal way. I'm always lookin for a better way.

J-Pipes 06-23-2010 07:57 AM

I know a guy that is running the plastic airsoft bbs, to balance his tires, they are 35" muds. He got the dirrections on how much to use from an offroad site I believe, he printed of the article and showed it to me, it was directed at use in super swampers. He used 8 ounces, that was in January or Febuary that he put them on, and he said they have been working great. Just letting you know another option:hellox:

K204DR 06-23-2010 08:09 AM

the innovative website says not to use the balance beads in 19.5s on a 1ton. they say they won't work properly on the 19.5s on that size truck.

Dr. Evil 06-23-2010 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Uncle Bubba (Post 578241)

The bags of beads work great and I'd use them in a heartbeat myself. Once in a while the bags break open though and in cold weather they coagulate in the valve stem when this happens. They recommend that you use the gas, Nitrogen I think to fill your tires when usin these beads.

And you know me, I can't do nothin the normal way. I'm always lookin for a better way.

I dont believe the bags stay together. The bags the beads are in are thin and I imagine they break right away. They do recommend the longer valve stem or a filter on the stem but I havent had a problem.


I use counteract balancing beads. http://www.counteractbalancing.com/

They dont require nitrogen fill (although its probably a good idea)...Had them for 4 winters this way - and like I said, Ive never had a problem even at -40.

Dr. Evil 06-23-2010 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by K204DR (Post 578297)
the innovative website says not to use the balance beads in 19.5s on a 1ton. they say they won't work properly on the 19.5s on that size truck.

Interesting - I cant imagine why they wouldnt work. They use them in semis and on other large tires.

I use Counteract beads - looks like they recommend 8-10 oz for a 19.5" wheel:

http://www.counteractbalancing.com/application1.html

K204DR 06-23-2010 10:53 AM

something about the truck not having enough weight to make them balance out.

Dr. Evil 06-23-2010 10:57 AM

ah, I guess they know better than me.

NadirPoint 06-23-2010 12:39 PM

Another drawback you forgot to mention is weight. Rickson hasn't had the forged aluminum available for quite some time now. That is what I was going to go with before I ended up getting 20" Centerlines because the Rickson aluminum wheels are no longer avilable. The 19.5 Rickson steelies are heavy: Double the weight of the forged aluminum at over 60lbs. @.

esetzer 09-24-2010 06:43 AM

I already know i will run a set of 19.5's on my next tire swap and get away from my 17" nittos i run now. I want to run a direct bolt on with no adapters. Anyone know of the best place to get a good set of billit 19.5"s ???

Uncle Bubba 09-24-2010 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by esetzer (Post 625793)
I already know i will run a set of 19.5's on my next tire swap and get away from my 17" nittos i run now. I want to run a direct bolt on with no adapters. Anyone know of the best place to get a good set of billit 19.5"s ???


Unless somethin more has recently hit the market, Rickson makes the only direct bolt on wheels.

Jazz 09-24-2010 11:29 AM

Here is a place I was checking out.Stockton Wheel Service - Custome Wheels They do a lot of custom work and would probably cost more than Rickson's but maybe not:pca1:


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