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gunman41mag 11-21-2011 08:37 AM

GLOCK OWNERS READ THIS
 
If you own a GLOCK be very very careful:ouch:
Man killed by his own concealed weapon | Richmond Times-Dispatch

PSD-BLACK-CLOUD 11-21-2011 10:01 AM

Sucks that he died but i mean if you play with a loaded gun and you know it dosent have a safety maybe you shouldnt leave one up top.

gunman41mag 11-21-2011 10:05 AM

Also don't keep a GLOCK in a leather holster:nope:
https://www.usacarry.com/mans-leathe...tal-discharge/

daveO 11-21-2011 02:48 PM

I'm sorry that first guy died, but carrying a gun without a holster just tucked into your waistband is asking for trouble.

gunman41mag 11-21-2011 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by daveO (Post 822944)
I'm sorry that first guy died, but carrying a gun without a holster just tucked into your waistband is asking for trouble.

You can't make a mistake with a gun, cause it could be a deadly mistake:scare2:

RSWORDS 11-21-2011 08:39 PM

What does the type of gun have to do with this? Carrying any firearm in your waist band without a holster is asking to get shot...

The guy pulled the trigger, weather on purpose or not his finger pulled the trigger, which coinsedently is exactly the only thing that will make a gun go off. Nothing would.have totally prevented this other then a holster and proper gun safety.

Ramprat 11-21-2011 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 823082)
What does the type of gun have to do with this? Carrying any firearm in your waist band without a holster is asking to get shot...

The guy pulled the trigger, weather on purpose or not his finger pulled the trigger, which coinsedently is exactly the only thing that will make a gun go off. Nothing would.have totally prevented this other then a holster and proper gun safety.


It's gunman being stupid and trying to make a case about how great the 1911 is compared to the glock...I'm waiting for him to post the video of the DEA guy who shot himself...

Hey, might have to go pull up the video of tex grubner shooting himself in the leg with a kimber 1911....:tu: :tu: After all it was a 1911 he shot himself with...so that just goes to show how dangerous the 1911 really is...:humm:

mexican carry is called mexican carry for a reason..and yep it will kill you...and as far as the leather holster, it was worn out & it was the owners fault for using a old worn out holster...where the leather had softened to the point of being dangerous...again noting to do with the pistol...

You can chalk up every single AD/ND to stupid human tricks, no gun will shoot you or anybody if a human is not involved...it's like saying a hammer will smash your thumb...cuz it does not have 3 safeties...

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2500HeavyDuty 11-21-2011 11:24 PM

guns dont kill people... death does

Ramprat 11-21-2011 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by 2500HeavyDuty (Post 823161)
guns dont kill people... death does

Actually death does not kill anybody....you die and then you are dead...death can't kill...

Life kills as it's a terminal disease...from the moment you are conceived...you are dying...

2500HeavyDuty 11-21-2011 11:46 PM

did you know every picture of you is a picture of you when you are younger?

Ramprat 11-21-2011 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by 2500HeavyDuty (Post 823168)
did you know every picture of you is a picture of you when you are younger?

Unless you post a picture of you after you are dead...

2500HeavyDuty 11-21-2011 11:50 PM

time still goes on

Ramprat 11-22-2011 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by 2500HeavyDuty (Post 823172)
time still goes on

and gunman hides....:jump: :jump:

Dr. Evil 11-22-2011 11:33 AM

Hmmm...theres a few people that I would like to give a glock to....:w2: :w2:


Carry on....

gunman41mag 11-22-2011 01:13 PM

I just want our members to be safe, when carrying a gun without a safety.:humm:

Ramprat 11-22-2011 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 823318)
I just want our members to be safe, when carrying a gun without a safety.:humm:

Here...let's use this as a edjumacational thread...as we all can agree learning somthing every day is a great thing!!!

Glock pistols such as the Glock 17 and Glock 19 are known for being some of the safest handguns on the market. This is due in large part to Glock innovative and unique trigger safety (also known as the Glock Safe Action System). The Glock Safe Action Trigger System is made up of three safety features: the trigger safety, firing-pin safety and drop safety.

Safe Action Trigger SystemMade up of a partly tensioned firing pin lock, the Glock Safe Action System is governed simply by the Glock's trigger. As the trigger is pulled back, each of the three safety features begin to automatically deactivate, leading to the eventual firing of your Glock pistol.

Trigger SafetyThe first of the three Glock safety features is the trigger safety. On all Glock pistols, the trigger is the only external moving component and once the trigger is pulled, each Glock safety feature begins to deactivate, preparing your Glock pistol to fire. To reactivate the trigger safety, simply take your finger off the trigger and all safety features will reengage.

Firing Pin SafetyThe second safety feature of a Glock pistol is the firing-pin safety, which is a steel pin that is used to block the firing-pin channel. This makes it impossible for the firing pin to strike the primer of a round. When you pull the trigger of your Glock, the blocking pin is pushed upward and out of the firing-pin channel, allowing the firing pin to strike the round's primer. Once the trigger is released, the firing pin safety is reactivated.

Drop SafetyThe final component of the Glock Safe Action System is the drop safety. The Glock drop safety helps prevent unintentional firing of your Glock handgun in case you accidentally drop the pistol. When the trigger of your Glock pistol is pulled, the trigger bar is deflected from the safety ramp. However, if you don't pull the trigger of your Glock and the pistol is accidentally dropped, the trigger bar will remain guided along the safety ramp, making firing the gun impossible.

SignificanceWhile other handguns require you to manually switch the safety on or off, the Glock trigger safety operates under one simple rule: When your finger is away from the trigger, your Glock pistol is secure; pull the trigger and all three safety devices are deactivated one after the other and your Glock is ready to fire. When the trigger is released, all three safety features are then reactivated and your Glock pistol is once again secure, making Glock pistols some of the safest pistols you can own.

Mr. Miyagi 11-22-2011 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Ramprat (Post 823155)
You can chalk up every single AD/ND to stupid human tricks...

You sure?

I could swear you blamed a holster for a bunch of them just last week...:tttt:

Ramprat 11-22-2011 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi (Post 823391)
You sure?

I could swear you blamed a holster for a bunch of them just last week...:tttt:

Actually I was blaming the holster design....the design that's piss poor and the cheap assed construction...

Who really designs a holster to index your finger...outside the holster...in line with the trigger and then uses trigger finger movement to release the retention on the holster...so that when the pistol comes up your finger is right in line with the trigger...causing you to index and shoot the pistol...

I've never seen a holster shoot a pistol, have you, or did it take a human to remove the pistol from the holster in question making it go bang...:humm::humm:

gunman41mag 11-23-2011 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=Ramprat;823386]Here...let's use this as a edjumacational thread...as we all can agree learning somthing every day is a great thing!!!

Glock pistols such as the Glock 17 and Glock 19 are known for being some of the safest handguns on the market. This is due in large part to Glock innovative and unique trigger safety (also known as the Glock Safe Action System). The Glock Safe Action Trigger System is made up of three safety features: the trigger safety, firing-pin safety and drop safety.

Safe Action Trigger SystemMade up of a partly tensioned firing pin lock, the Glock Safe Action System is governed simply by the Glock's trigger. As the trigger is pulled back, each of the three safety features begin to automatically deactivate, leading to the eventual firing of your Glock pistol.

Trigger SafetyThe first of the three Glock safety features is the trigger safety. On all Glock pistols, the trigger is the only external moving component and once the trigger is pulled, each Glock safety feature begins to deactivate, preparing your Glock pistol to fire. To reactivate the trigger safety, simply take your finger off the trigger and all safety features will reengage.

Firing Pin SafetyThe second safety feature of a Glock pistol is the firing-pin safety, which is a steel pin that is used to block the firing-pin channel. This makes it impossible for the firing pin to strike the primer of a round. When you pull the trigger of your Glock, the blocking pin is pushed upward and out of the firing-pin channel, allowing the firing pin to strike the round's primer. Once the trigger is released, the firing pin safety is reactivated.

Drop SafetyThe final component of the Glock Safe Action System is the drop safety. The Glock drop safety helps prevent unintentional firing of your Glock handgun in case you accidentally drop the pistol. When the trigger of your Glock pistol is pulled, the trigger bar is deflected from the safety ramp. However, if you don't pull the trigger of your Glock and the pistol is accidentally dropped, the trigger bar will remain guided along the safety ramp, making firing the gun impossible.

SignificanceWhile other handguns require you to manually switch the safety on or off, the Glock trigger safety operates under one simple rule: When your finger is away from the trigger, your Glock pistol is secure; pull the trigger and all three safety devices are deactivated one after the other and your Glock is ready to fire. When the trigger is released, all three safety features are then reactivated and your Glock pistol is once again secure, making Glock pistols some of the safest pistols you can own.[/
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If anything get in the glock trigger guard & pulls on the trigger the Glock will fire(branches, pen, or finger by accident) but if a gun has a manual safety, and the safety is engaged, it will not fired:nope:

Ramprat 11-23-2011 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 823596)
If anything get in the glock trigger guard & pulls on the trigger the Glock will fire(branches, pen, or finger by accident) but if a gun has a manual safety, and the safety is engaged, it will not fired:nope:

You and your selective reply's crack me up, it's great fun watching you and laughing at you...:jump: :jump: :yeah:

Did you forget all about the Kimber 1911 that shot it's owner...or is that another one of your not going to reply to it cuz it does not make your point...

Oh and got to love how you refuse to learn anything about Glocks...but that's expected with you....

Just so you don't miss it...once again here is the video of a guy shooting himself in the leg with the much praised Kimber 1911...:humm:


dieseldude03 11-23-2011 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Ramprat (Post 823155)
It's gunman being stupid and trying to make a case about how great the 1911 is compared to the glock...I'm waiting for him to post the video of the DEA guy who shot himself...

Hey, might have to go pull up the video of tex grubner shooting himself in the leg with a kimber 1911....:tu: :tu: After all it was a 1911 he shot himself with...so that just goes to show how dangerous the 1911 really is...:humm:

mexican carry is called mexican carry for a reason..and yep it will kill you...and as far as the leather holster, it was worn out & it was the owners fault for using a old worn out holster...where the leather had softened to the point of being dangerous...again noting to do with the pistol...

You can chalk up every single AD/ND to stupid human tricks, no gun will shoot you or anybody if a human is not involved...it's like saying a hammer will smash your thumb...cuz it does not have 3 safeties...

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Just for gunman......:tttt: :tttt: :tttt: :tttt:

I shot myself! Original Upload! - YouTube

I was wondering how long it would take you to post that vid! I'm willing to bet more people have shot themselves or someone else accidentally with a 1911 then ANY other pistol. Either while thumbing the safety off on a "cocked and locked" pistol (with their finger on the trigger... kinda like numb-nuts up there) or attempting to thumb the hammer down. There's a reason why the military changed to manual when it came to carrying a 1911. HAMMER DOWN ON AN EMPTY CHAMBER.

RSWORDS 11-23-2011 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi (Post 823391)
You sure?

I could swear you blamed a holster for a bunch of them just last week...:tttt:

Human error for not replacing a worn out piece of equipment.

RSWORDS 11-23-2011 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Ramprat (Post 823155)
Just for gunman......:tttt: :tttt: :tttt: :tttt:

I shot myself! Original Upload! - YouTube

The best part about this is he says he had been doing it all day with his Glock, when he switched to his 1911 he shot himself... Someone need sto tell him he messed it up, the Glock is supposed to be the gun that goes off and makes you shoot yourself!

Ramprat 11-23-2011 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by dieseldude03 (Post 823643)
There's a reason why the military changed to manual when it came to carrying a 1911. HAMMER DOWN ON AN EMPTY CHAMBER.

Actualy the vast majority of military guys carying the 1911 now carry in condition one...round in the chamber, hammer back & safety on...

HOWEVER, they train daily...shoot more rounds in a month than gunmanwill in 5 years..and they shoot/train hard...

The 1911 was designed to be carried in condition one...that is the safest way, a empty chamber will get you killed...but it is a weapon that requires training..and not just playing on a range and then a skill set that the average gun owner does not have, or want to achieve...

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Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 823686)
The best part about this is he says he had been doing it all day with his Glock, when he switched to his 1911 he shot himself... Someone need sto tell him he messed it up, the Glock is supposed to be the gun that goes off and makes you shoot yourself!

Yep.....just waiting for gunman to come on here...and say he had his 1911 in a serpa and shot himself....:humm::humm::humm:

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Did I forget to mention.....in 1989 I saw my 1st 1911 ND/self inflicted gunshot...a Navy seaman guy shot himself in the thigh...accidentally while on the range qualifying on that weapon...

Was really rather cool....:c: :c: :c:

Go navy :jump: :jump:

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Accidental Discharge of a 1911 in a Thumb Break Holster..read the article...

Accidental Discharge of a 1911 in a Thumb-Break Holster


On January 19, 2008 I had a negligent discharge of my pistol. It's a Rock Island full size 1911.
My story -the leg wounds

dieseldude03 11-24-2011 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Ramprat (Post 823764)
Actualy the vast majority of military guys carying the 1911 now carry in condition one...round in the chamber, hammer back & safety on...

Actually, I was referring to back when it was first introduced. Agreed, John browning had intended the 1911 to be carried in condition one, but all the "accidental" discharges involving it forced the military's hand into eliminating condition one carry some 90 years ago, at least in some regiments. Not sure when it was 'officially" reversed. Please don't ask for my source on this. I read it in one of the ump-teen articles the gun magazines were churning out for the 1911's 100th birthday.

1993firstgennewbie 12-05-2011 02:25 PM

This is not a problem with glock its a problem with stupidity get a holster that covers the trigger and the problem would be solved


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