National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act
 

Thursday, November 10, 2011


H.R. 822—the “National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011” is scheduled for a vote on the U.S. House floor this Tuesday, November 15. We’ve told you the truth about why the legislation is very good for gun owners and now it is imperative that you contact your U.S. Representative IMMEDIATELY and urge him or her to vote for H.R. 822 WITH NO AMENDMENTS.

As we have been reporting all along, H.R. 822 is a good bill for gun owners. The bill will enable America’s millions of permit holders to exercise their right to self-defense while traveling outside their home states by requiring states to recognize each others' lawfully-issued carry permits, just as they recognize driver's licenses and carry permits held by armored car guards.

H.R. 822 does not create a federal licensing or registration system; does not establish a minimum federal standard for the carry permit; does not involve the federal bureaucracy in setting standards for carry permit; and it does not destroy or discourage the adoption of permitless carry systems such as those in Arizona, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming.

Again, this critically important bill will be on the House floor on Tuesday. Please IMMEDIATELY contact your member of Congress and urge him or her to vote for H.R. 822 WITH NO AMENDMENTS.


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yep, it's a good thing & now if people would get off their dead asses and contact congress about it...

The link goes to a auto email to your rep....

SO now if people would get off their dead asses and fill out a internet form...:w2::w2::w2:

One of my congress critters is a co sponsor...and they really know how I think on tis issue...:tu::tu:

Did it pass?

Haven't heard if it passed yet or not. Figure I'll get an email from Chris Cox from the NRA-ILA as soon as the votes are tallied. I emailed my rep last week concerning this. Keeping my fingers crossed!:c:

It passed the house... but has little chance of passing the senate.

And then Obama would have to sign it... Thats more doubtful then anything.

It will pass the Senate with their changes most likely. That's if it isnt killed.:argh:

I don't like it unless it comes with a law that standardizes issuance and language of carry permits. It would completely undermine any state, county or city's gun policy. This isn't a little bill, I don't see how it wouldn't essentially give every community in the country the same weapons permitting that as the community with the weakest permitting.

I wouldn't mind seeing laxer weapons control laws, but forcing reciprocity over state's rights to control weapons isn't the answer. A state or local entity needs to be able to put people inside under a blanket of laws, no matter where they live or are from.

I'll be damned if I want a bunch of armed ornery cajun coonass tourists running around my block when I'm not allowed to be armed myself. :D

Yep, it passed the house, but the democratic/liberal controlled senate will never let it on the floor..not at all....

However, if it somehow does pass obama will have to sign it in the dark of night...or else really alienate a chunk of potential voters....voters he has ignored so far...

Would be funny to legally carry in states that do not allow residents to carry concealed...:tttt: :tttt: :tttt:

Your CHL will be like your drivers license. All states will honor your permit, but you will have to follow the state laws of whatever state your in. You don't take your laws with you when you leave your state.

Has a rule attached that any changes will kill it.

Not everybody wants this to pass.....and quite a few gun owners actually want it to fail....as gun owners are our own worse enemy....

Gun Owners of America
Concealed Carry Reciprocity Bill
Passes House
Troubling Amendment Added


The House passed national concealed carry reciprocity legislation on Wednesday evening by a vote of 272-154.

The bill, H.R. 822, is intended to allow persons who hold a concealed carry permit from one state to also carry anywhere in the country, with the exception of Illinois and Washington, D.C.

Though the bill passed by a wide margin, it was not without controversy on the pro-gun side of the debate. In previous alerts, GOA has pointed out several flaws in the legislation:

It forces Vermont residents (who do not need a permit to carry) to either obtain an out-of-state permit or to push their state to pass a more restrictive concealed carry law than it now enjoys;
By requiring permits for reciprocity, the bill undermines efforts at the state level to pass constitutional carry (i.e., Vermont-style carry);
In restrictive “may issue” states, the bill allows for non-residents to carry firearms in the state while most residents would still be prohibited, and;
The bill is yet another example of Congress distorting of the Constitution’s Commerce Clause.

Representative Justin Amash (R-MI), who voted against the bill, addressed this last point in a statement, calling H.R. 822 “an unconstitutional bill that improperly applies the Commerce Clause to concealed carry licensing.”

Another freshman Representative, Rob Woodall (R-GA), noted that the right to carry a concealed firearm is already protected by the Second Amendment.

“If the Second Amendment protects my rights to carry my concealed weapon from state to state to state, I don’t need another federal law,” Rep. Woodall said. He went on to remind his colleagues of the original intent of the right to keep and bear arms.

“I don’t believe the Second Amendment was put in the Bill of Rights to allow me to shoot targets [or] hunt for deer and turkey. I think the Second Amendment was put in the Bill of Rights so that I could defend my freedom against an overbearing federal government.”

Anti-gun Amendment Passes

One extremely troubling amendment to the bill was slipped in on a voice vote. Sponsored by Republican David Reichert (“C” rated by GOA), the amendment instructs the Government Accounting Office to:

“Conduct a study of the ability of State and local law enforcement authorities to verify the validity of licenses or permits, issued by other States, to carry a concealed firearm.”

Nowhere in the Constitution is there even a hint of authority for the federal government to “study” the exercising of a right. Even worse, you can be sure that anti-gunners will use any excuse, including this study, to push for some type of national carry license.

The bill now heads to the Senate, where GOA is already working with key Senators to address ALL of the problems with the bill. GOA is also working with Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) on legislation, H.R. 2900, that takes a constitutional approach to concealed carry recognition.

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Alabama used to be like Vermont. It still is an open carry state but the laws have been so muddy that most don't believe it when told it is perfectly legal to OC in AL. The problem came during the Civil Rights Movement when the state wanted a way to kepp blacks from carrying a firearm. So you had to be issued a ccw permit which was made to be impossible for a black person. So now you have to pay $25 a year to ccw or carry in your vehicle:argh::argh:

It's not going to make anything worse for vermont residents. Just wony make it better either. They can still carry in state, they never could carry out of state anyway because they have no permit. Nothing changes for them. Where now of they get a vermont permit, which lets be honest will be crazy easy to obtain i would imagine based on the law now, they will be able to carry out of state, something they can not curently do...

Actually if ya look alabama is a may issue state...they are not even a shall issue state...and many states/towns are unofficially frowning on open carry....when it's legal in the state...

Handgunlaw.us

Google search "jim crow" gun laws...they date back to slavery when slave owners did not want slaves to revolt and as such made it illeagl for them to own weapons...

The funny thing is if ya look at the people who support gun laws the majority of them fall from one of two camps...slave owners or slaves...and they still want guns laws...to protect the childern instead of putting away the criminals....

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Yep, nothing will change for Vermont, nothing at all....

Heck here we now have no permit needed if you are a state resident..if you want to carry outside of the state in a state that honors our permit you can get one if you want...

I imagine Vermont residences will push for a "permit" system and I aslo imagine that they will be pretty easy to obtain.

In Nevada a CCW is easy to get. But it would be nice to carry in to California.:argh: