Got Some Questions For You Bowhunters
 

I have a new place to hunt so I'm pullin the cobwebs off my old bow and gettin it put back together. I've always kept it handy and stayed in practice but to cheap to spend any money so it's been the same set up for years. This new happy hunting ground is an A1 kinda spot that hasn't been hunted in decades. So I'm doin some updatin for it and need some advice.

I'm gonna order new arrows but things have changed a little in the 10 plus years since i ordered my last batch. I've always used Easton XX75's and planned on just sticking with them but the issue is to go with 3 or 4 vanes.

Also wonderin about all this new stuff they offer on arrows that I never heard of in the old days. Arrow wraps, NAP Quickspin and all this kinda stuff.

I'm also gonna change out the string and put on a new rest. I have a pass through type rest on it right now and want to go with either a drop down or full hold style if anybody has any suggestions on that.

This is all for deer with a 70 pound draw weight bow.

these are what i use arrow wise... (3 vein)http://dev.carbonexpressarrows.com/c...tor™-xp-select
easton also makes carbon arrows... which i would recommend.. no chance of bending them... but they do shatter if you hit something hard.

for a rest i use a whisker biscuit
Trophy Ridge Arrow Rests : Whisker Biscuit

ive also been trying these new veins, its veins on a piece of shrink wrap that you put on yourself... they are actually really really really nice, fly alot straighter, and faster.... just cant think of what they are called but i can check tomorrow for you if you are interested

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bowtech also makes a pretty sweet rest called Hostage, same principle as the whisker biscuit

http://www.obsessionarchery.com/imag...ch/hostage.jpg

Careful with the whisker biscuit, its been known to ripp vanes/feathers whatever off the shaft of the arrow...i use quick spins on my easton carbon arrows, my little brother shoots league and deer with easton full metal jacket arrows those are pretty sweet arrows but pricey

and this is what i had before the whisker biscuit Trap Door Fall Away Arrow Rest

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i havent had any problems with it... been shootin with it for a while now.

ive never used and im pretty sure my dad uses it on his bow, this is just what ive heard while browsing the archery aisles at the local stores...it makes sense though

yeah i could see it having a higher chance of it happening than any other rest, but i know quite a few people that are using them and they love them. if i do ever have a problem with it though i am for sure going with the hostage... i shot a bow the other day with one on it and it seemed crazy smooth compared to the whisker bisuit.

I had my old arrows re-fletched last year and the guy put em on wrong for the rest I'm usin cause it didn't take very long at all for me to tear the cock feathers off all my practice arrows.

That Hostage was the full hold rest I was lookin at. Are these full hold rest any problem to actually tune the bow with. They don't look like they offer much in the way of adjustments to be made and I'm a die hard paper tuner.

I wouldn't mind the carbon arrows but I just can't justify the extra money, from most of what I'm seein about an extra $40 per dozen over the cost of the XX75's.

tuning is exactly the same as any pass through, we paper tune all our bows too.

IMO price wise your still better off buying carbon. i only own 5 arrows, and they are the same arrows i have had for probly 5-6 years. They fly faster than aluminum arrows, i havent shot aluminum arrows since i was like 10, but from what i remember its way to easy to bend them, when im practicing i dont take time pulling them out of the target so i used to bend alot of my dads arrows and he got real upset at that!

but thats just my opinion, im sure there are alot of people still shooting aluminum arrows, but i THINK, not positive, alot of full hold rests you cant use aluminum arrows cause they are to big in dia. (the hostage has plenty of room i know that for sure)

i am by no means an expert on this stuff, im just giving you the small amount of info i know from what ive used.

I don't trust experts, opinions are all I'm lookin for here.

I've never tried the carbon arrows myself so have no first hand knowledge of them. I been shootin these same dozen aluminum arrows for better then 10 years now. 6 for practice and 6 with broadheads on em for huntin. That's five deer with 2 arrows out a that 6. Went to the 2nd one cause I was afraid the broadhead might be gettin dull. I can usually straiten any bends out by hand but if they are to haywire I can also take them to the shop for the mechanical straitening. Don't know if you can this with carbon or not.

Carbon arrows and overdraws were just hittin the market when i was slowin down so never paid any attention to all that stuff. If I had my way and the money I'd rather go to a recurve but I can't afford to start all over from scratch buyin all this stuff.

carbon arrows will not bend, its impossible. but they will shatter or split if you hit.. say a rock or a really hard tree. 9 outta 10 times nothing will happen to a carbon arrow.

i ran out to the shop and snapped a pic of my buddies hostage and the adjustments on it. Attachment 51482

and these are the slip on things i was talking about, they are pretty bad ass
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and apparently my dad bought new arrows last night while i was working cause i walked in there and there are some new carbon express' sitting in a box and 6 new easton ST excel arrows with practice broadheads on.

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Whisker biscuit
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Can't ask for better service then that.

hope it kinda helped:c:

Thanks Bud. Used to pass through your town every year for a long time. For years I worked with the Wisconsin Military Academy for some Officer training stuff and always pulled trucks and equipment out of the local unit there in Marshfield.

Once I get these arrows figure out guess I'm gonna have to order me one a these Hostage rests and get things movin here. Kinda late on it already.

Not much to see here in good old Marshfield, but it does the trick.

couldnt hurt just to grab 1 or 2 carbon arrows see how you like em... i know when i first bought carbons i had to change my rest from a older prong style rest to a newer "technologically advanced" one (one with the prongs closer together) cause my arrows kept fallin through the middle of it:booo:

1st of all its dangerous to put do anything major to a bow without getting it done by a bowsmith.:ph: all it takes is ONE tiny mistake and BAM :ouch:

but.. i use Carbon arrows

PSE Carbon Force 200 Dominator

for the rest i have heard tons of storys about the Whisker biscuit rippin the feathers off the arrow.. I use the prong rest and never had a problem with it.. its covered in that plastic stuff to make a quiter exit.

I've Heard the same thing, that and there loud. I still have a prong rest on mine with the felt but I just got to test out my buddy's new hostage rest and it was awesome but just can cough up the $70 for it yet I did see a different brand rest similar to the hostage for $40 but it just didn't seem like a quality piece

well.... 70$ for a rest is steep. My release was 80 dollars. I don't even remember the cost of my arrows... i know i bought 12 of them... 6 for hunting and 6 for practicing... ill take a pic of my stuff if yall want...

I just use a prong rest, my little brother uses a fall away but seems like too much to go wrong out in the woods witht the string and all that makes it all operate.

also i use the G5 One piece broadheads they are awesome and they fly really straight...

well as far as arrows around here carbon arrows are actually cheaper than aluminum. because of metal prices. the rest well it's six of one half a dozen of the other. i shoot a prong rest now because of ease of tuning i HATE the whisker biskit ICOLOR] think it's junk..but they sell a crapload of them..on my old bow i shot a muzzy zero effect and i loved it people complained that id was made all out of plastic but i had dropped it from my climber from 25' up in 30 deg. weather and it was just fine.. could get it tuned on my new bow so i said screw it I'll just go with a trusty prong rest...good luck.:U:

Well I went by the bow shop today just to pick up a new string and the kid sold me on some stuff. So they made me a package deal. I got my new string installed with all the attachments tied back in place and a dozen PSE full carbon Arrows all for $100. Hell that was less then I was gettin ready to order just a dozen aluminum for.

I guess I'm just gonna keep my prong rest, it's worked all these years. Now back to work gettin it all sighted in and ready to go again. Thanks all.

Actually broadheads are next I guess. I'm shootin Razorbacks right now but I'm sure that's old world technology now to so what the new hot ones on the market.

Well I just noticed that I got had. I hate shops, now I remember why I always did all my business through mail order. Paid $80 for the dozen carbon arrows, sounded like a good deal. What the kid showed me was PSE and I knew that was the same price as mail order is why I went ahead and bought them through the shop. Went back to pick everything up today, and of course the shop was packed with people. Had to get my peep sight placed and dealin with fightin the crowd I just wanted to get this shit and get out. Went out and fired off a few rounds and noticed that these arrows aren't the PSE's he showed me. Some Carbon Express made in Korea crap that I could have gotten for $50 for the dozen. Yep call me a sucker.

these are what i use for broadheads http://www.brooksarchery.com/P1010314.JPG

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and i hated expandables till i found these

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went and looked today, Easton xx75's were $85 for a dozen and Easton STexcel carbons were $35 for 6

I looked at a few of the mechanical heads but I'm not sure my old bow makes enough kinetic energy to operate these things. They just don;t seem to work well with non-cam bows and I'm not a fan of cams. I like my old fashioned wheels.

Kinda lookin at the Crimson Talon XT100's right now. They look pretty brutal in the videos.

yeah they do :choochoo: