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Red_Rattler 10-08-2009 08:01 PM

Neat yet sad vid...
 
:D This vid puts alot of things into perspective, my god really?! It amazes me how the engineers design this stuff like this and its considered a great idea. Sorry Ford guys but I like working on my stuff WITHout havin to take my truck 90% apart LMFAO ENJOY!
:c:

millco 10-08-2009 08:12 PM

Tell you what though: That was one FAST tech!! I want him when I have to pay by the hour. That dude flat moved!



Seriously, it is better to pull the cab on a lot of rigs when doing any serious engine work. Still seems just plain wrong to me though.....

Sycostang67 10-08-2009 08:34 PM

I thought head removal was the only reason for popping the cab. It does make engine work easier, but thats a lot more work to get to the easy part. I'll stick with my old mechanically reliable diesel.:ok1:

turbo20psi 10-08-2009 08:45 PM

I hope it was under warranty ,second on the fast tech and pay by the hour thing.I didnt see the heads pulled,what he do?

97cummins 10-09-2009 03:36 AM

Dang! I wish i could work that fast.But seriosly,What are the designers smoking when they design these trucks.:argh:Thats why i'm glad i have my old 12v.Plenty of room to work under the hood.:U:

94Matt 10-11-2009 12:24 PM

Looks to me like the engineers were thinking pretty smart on the new Fords. Realistically, think how much easier it would be to work on a Dodge or GM if the cab came off that easy. From what a local Ford tech told me, it takes just a couple of hours to pull the cab. That sure beats being sprawled out over the fenders and radiator for 8 hours in my book.

12vcummins96 10-11-2009 12:31 PM

screw that:booo:

73diesel 10-11-2009 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Sycostang67 (Post 407737)
I thought head removal was the only reason for popping the cab. It does make engine work easier, but thats a lot more work to get to the easy part. I'll stick with my old mechanically reliable diesel.:ok1:


X2, and easy enough to work on

dieseldude03 10-11-2009 01:36 PM

I was under the understanding that the cab had to be pulled to change out the turbos on the 6.4L also. As far as the labor pulling the cab, my buddy was just told 8-10 hours labor to pull the cab (same for putting it back on) of his 2004 6.0L to replace the head gaskets. Total labor for the entire job was approaching 30 hours and $2000.00. Diesel Power Magazine also quoted the $2000.00 labor cab pull a few issues back.

04redstroker 10-11-2009 02:09 PM

My 04 took like 4 hours to pull the cab not 8-10 and it can be done faster. And Ive heard that the 6.4s cabs are designed to come off in 1-2 hours of work

94Matt 10-11-2009 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by 04redstroker (Post 409055)
My 04 took like 4 hours to pull the cab not 8-10 and it can be done faster. And Ive heard that the 6.4s cabs are designed to come off in 1-2 hours of work

Bingo, the new style trucks were engineered to be easy to pull the cab, not the 6.0's. That tells me the engineers were actually thinking of how to make the truck easier to work on. Personally, I hope I never have to do anything major to any of my trucks but if I did, it would be nice if you could just pop the cab off in 1-2 hours.

reiser 10-11-2009 04:42 PM

i like when the other tec. was just standing in front of the camera...he was there like 3 seconds that's like 15-20 min. in real time....

Red_Rattler 10-11-2009 07:26 PM

So your tellin me u wanna have to remove the cab to replace a turbo install head studs or a headgasket?! Sounds awesome...

04redstroker 10-11-2009 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Red_Rattler (Post 409177)
So your tellin me u wanna have to remove the cab to replace a turbo install head studs or a headgasket?! Sounds awesome...

Your tellin me that if your cab came off in 1-2 hours, you wouldnt do it and make life easier.lol I dont think you need to pull the cab off to get to the turbos, at least it doesnt look like it on my boss's 6.4.

94Matt 10-14-2009 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Red_Rattler (Post 409177)
So your tellin me u wanna have to remove the cab to replace a turbo install head studs or a headgasket?! Sounds awesome...


Odds are I would never have to do any of those, but if I did, then yeah it would be nice to pull the cab that easy.

the_new_kid 10-31-2009 12:59 AM

Is it not obvious what he is doing? He is changing the oil duh!

1DirtyGS 10-31-2009 09:55 PM

COUGH toilet COUGH:w2:

blkjack 11-16-2009 12:46 AM

I think that the engineers should have to work on the vehicles they design for like a year with different scenarios of problems heads, intakes, injectors, turbos, ect and then maybe they would design things alittle different not shovin a motor clean up under the dash JMO :argh::argh::moon::bat:

whiskyBound 11-28-2009 11:40 PM

on the 6.0s i've been reading some (and what I am reading is scaring me away from the 7.3's and the 6.0s and damn near everything international built) the HPOP Or high pressure oil pump sits at the back of the motor and has a tendancy or can get carbon build up that's a pop the motor work apparently yes anything with the heads and apparently to pull the cam you have to do something at the back of the motor too on the 6.0 engine removal required and..I THINK he said it's wise for injectors? BUUUUT I'm going off some mechanic on you tube so I could be crazy

2500HeavyDuty 11-28-2009 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Red_Rattler (Post 409177)
So your tellin me u wanna have to remove the cab to replace a turbo install head studs or a headgasket?! Sounds awesome...


you dont have to pull the cab for head studs, just be sure to install the studs before you blow the HG.


i though people were pulling the 6.0 cabs in like 15 mins or so

dealwithit 12-10-2009 02:18 PM

im pretty sure they designed the new trucks alot better so people would come back to them after all the 6.0L issues and bills....

ArizonaRedneck 12-10-2009 04:34 PM

i think some engineer caught a mechanic in bed with his wife and all mechanics[old school] technicians [new school] are paying the price in one form or another

kipo 12-16-2009 10:30 PM

1-2 hours to pull the cab, yea that's the easy part. The hard part is the 16 hrs and $4000 to install the lift that sucks. :argh:

Diesel Nut 12-17-2009 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by 2500HeavyDuty (Post 440991)
you dont have to pull the cab for head studs, just be sure to install the studs before you blow the HG.


i though people were pulling the 6.0 cabs in like 15 mins or so

You most certainly have this wrong. There are several bolts on the head that will not come out. You have to suspend those bolts with the head as you pull the head if you don't pull the cab or the motor. This is not like a cummins where you can pull a bolt and replace it with a stud and torque it. No, on a 6.0 the heads need to come off.

AS for pulling the cab in 15mins:td:


Originally Posted by kipo (Post 453249)
1-2 hours to pull the cab, yea that's the easy part. The hard part is the 16 hrs and $4000 to install the lift that sucks. :argh:

Now thats funny! :tu:

04redstroker 12-19-2009 05:39 PM

you can swap the head bolts one at a time on the 6.0 without pullin the cab. It has been done. You either have to pull the AC box thingy, cant think of what its called lol, or just lossen the motor mounts and let the motor drop and twist a little.

Mr. Miyagi 12-19-2009 05:53 PM

Tilt front ends, FTW....

Too bad the only reason this won't work is insurance and government interference...

Tinman875 12-19-2009 07:04 PM

easy dodge guys, i had a 01 that i replaced the engine in and it was waaaay easier to lift the cab on the dodge to get to every thing and make the swap easier. it took like 45min to 1 hr to have it in the air. I have not done a ford, but i wouldn't hesitate. There really isnt a whole lot involved if you have been around wrenchin for a while. The hardest part is making your mind up to do it, digin in and gettin dirty. Or you can bitch and moan and wish for it to be done. I like easier, even if it is an extra step. :humm:

Mr. Miyagi 12-19-2009 07:55 PM

It is a job that is more intimidating to watch and think about than it is to actually do it.

We remove cabs all the time on heavy equipment....if the machine is designed to be taken apart, the job really is not difficult as it appears.

Still.....I feel sorry for the dealer techs these days. Doing that for flat rate? Glad it's not me.

CumminsTurbo22 12-19-2009 08:44 PM

all that for a serpentine belt? lol

MacbooknMyTruck 12-21-2009 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Red_Rattler (Post 407702)
Sorry Ford guys but I like working on my stuff WITHout havin to take my truck 90% apart LMFAO ENJOY!
:c:

And we Ford Guys like not having to mod the engine AND the tranny :choochoo: Our 6.0 trannys sure can take a beating!

Tinman875 12-21-2009 10:07 PM

:pca1:

millco 12-22-2009 02:45 AM

A little time will tell: My bro knows a Ford Tech and he tells him he is real scared. They were making a killing off the 6.0L but haven't seen a 6.4L so he is afraid of the day when the 6.0L start going off the roads (Wonder what they did for work back when the 7.3L was on the road?)


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