New Ingersoll-Rand Impact - MADE IN CHINA!!!!
 

I finally decided to step up and buy a quality impact. I looked at a Chicago Pneumatic, NitroCat, SK, and Ingersoll-Rand. Based on knowledge that IR is a good brand, I picked up an IR 2130 composite 1/2" impact. I got it yesterday and there's a freaking sticker on top of the tool that says "Made for Ingersoll-Rand in CHINA". I was FURIOUS. This is a $200 gun!! I don't buy Chinese made tools. This one is definitely going back.

Does anyone know of a quality U.S.A. made impact? Are ALL of IR's impacts made in China? I would NEVER have suspected an IR tool to be made in China.

I don't know about the USA but most tools from most suppliers in Canada are made in some fashion - even if final assembly is done this side - in China.

Some are still better than others mind you.

Wash your hands after your done. Lead ya know.... :poak:

Check this out:

https://www.dieselbombers.com/showthread.php?t=8301

Good info JC. I'll check with Bobby. Mac makes good stuff. Wonder where theirs is made?

Yeah, It seems that most everything passes through China. I would've thought more of IR.

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I just looked at the MAC catalog... I looked at the AW4300. I think it's the EXACT same impact as the IR 2130 I just bought.

By exact, do you mean same, even where it is made?

Get used to it - we will see more and more Chinese crap....

Wanst too long ago that the good ol Vice Grip company moved their tool operations to Taiwan.

Not sure; Visually, they look awful close to being the same tool.

Mac:
http://www.mactools.com/Mac/Mac+Prod.../Wrench/AW4300

IR:
http://www.irtools.com/IS/product.aspx-en-28783

I will toss this out there... Many new tools of ALL Quility are madin in China or other countrys... For one reason.... LABOR PRICES!!! Trust me... They are using the same Materials and they same specs of when they were made in the good old USA. Tool companys don;t buy from them they tell them what to make. They undergo the SAME quality control of the tools that are made hear (sometimes more) and they have the same warrenty. This goes for ALL the large tool companys... IR, MATCO, SNAP-ON, and yes even MAC. Trust us though we/they would not put a lifetime warenty on a PROFESSINAL tool if they didn't think it would last. As I said before.... Same material, Same Specs, Same quality, Different language in the factory. The companys are saving money in the labor... Not the quality/material.

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Yes IR supplys us with some of our Airtools... thay are a little different but VERY close to the same. The MAC gun is stronger. We go out and tell them what we want and they build it. None of the big tool companys (MAC, Snap-on, ect) make there own (or at least most) of there air tools.... We might have our own "versions" but we all go to a specialist in the Air tool market. Get what I'm trying to say?


And IR makes some guns for Snap-on also.

i know aircat makes a really good impact and i beleive they are all made in the USA

we get some from Aircat also... Real good guns. Our "Q" series is CRAZY quiet... Like quiet enough to have normal conversation while working with it.

Some of the guns that IR and Aircat supply us can ONLY be bought from us.

I would recomend the AW434M for anyone looking for an awesome impact.

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Here is the AW434M

http://www.mactools.com/Mac/Mac+Prod.../Wrench/AW434M

Chinese crap sucks! i tried being cheap once by using those chinese tools..
all the do is bend and break, junk!

You would be surprised on how much of the High quality tools are made in Tiwan and China... Very surprised. It's not the majority of them. But all the "name brand" guys have some tools (hand and other) that are madie over seas. Just being made there does not make them bad. As I stated... They are not bought from other countries, just made there. All teh Name brand stuff that is there is the EXACT same as if made here. Same Material... Same tolerances... Same product. Now all the CRAP that you buy at places like harbor fright, Northern and the such is just that Crap made in China.

I went on a rampage a few years back, I wasn't buyin nothin else made in China. The problem I ran into is that you can't not buy their crap. In most cases you can't buy anything that is not made in china. The final straw was a new Body Grinder. I couldn't find one in any brand at any price that was not made in china.

The 2315TiMax is made in Athens PA, along with several other IR tools. I believe the label on the 2130 says "Made in China by Ingersoll Rand, Designed & Engineered in USA" rather than Made for Ingersoll-Rand in CHINA. The factory in China is owned and run by IR employees. Full disclosure: I work for IR

i have an aircat 3/8 and 1/2 and love them my 3/8 hits harder than some guys 1/2 :yeah: and the 1/2 can pul headbolts out of a isx, which is a task for most 3/4 guns...

IR is still quality stuff i have a 14 year old 231 1/2 in drive and a 3/8 drive as well as a newer 3/4 composite, and i use them in the gas and oil fields, you can pour a pound of dirt in them and they keep on going, when i replace my old guns it will be with IR composits they are way harder hitting, and have the longivity, also mac tools guns are IR, cornwell sells IR , snap on is fine if you use them only in a shop with a good oiler and water seaperator system, but my hand tools are all snap on and cornwell, and old mac [ pre stanley buy out ] and stay away from anything they sell at harbour freight, unless your buying mag trays, spend your money once or spend often that is what it comes downs to, and what kind of application are you useing it for, if nothing else check out the pawn shops they have the older guns at times and the truck tool guys usally have a large box of old trade in you can get cheap,

I love my 2135TI, other then that I have a 3/8" matco composate gun that I have changed lugnuts with LOL

i got a 1/2 drive impact, that IR, its the titanium and i have droped it off the lift and beat the balls off of it and as long as you oil it daily it works the nuts, it will snap 1/2 wheel studs if your not careful, i want to try there air ratchets anyone use them yet? i know snapon makes good ones, but way crazy money....you can never win..BTW, CHINA/JAPAN ASIA IN GENERAL SUCKS CLOSE THE BOARDERS :madd:

JAPAN does not suck - I would buy just about anything made in Japan. China/Taiwan is a whole different ballgame. Its all junk.

Got my IR 2135ti at sears about a year ago and it says made in USA :U: probably the best impact ive owned. "1K ft lb of nut busting TQ"

this is true, japan is way better in leaps and bounds. my computor and tv are made there, and so is my transit. they are good products. (I take back that part of my coment)
BTW i got my impact from sears too. and it does bust nots like no other:U:

Should say bolt shearing TQ though, its good at that too. lol

Snap ons new line of air tools absolutley rock! Theyre expensive but worth every penny IMO as a professional mechanic. The 3/8 will loosen 5/8 bolts all day long with out breaking a sweat. I dont have sockets for bigger ones but im guessing most 3/4 bolts wouldnt be a problem.

snap hand tools are not what they were 20 yrs ago take any socket from the 80s and look at the same one but made today theres a difference in size and thickness. snap on wears outs faster today than it did. i know they are made in china but not made by the same steel the USA used and whats a piss off is they are made cheaper and by cheap labours but still charge the same highhhhh price thats not cool

If any 3/8" gun you have wont lossen a 5/8" bolt you need to take that POS back, Thats not much of a accomplishment for a 3/8" gun.

I have the Matco made by ingersoll 3/8 and 1/2 composite impacts and they rock!I do not like to buy tools made overseas but these things work I use and abuse them all day every day with no problems.

i have an Ir 231 thats been worked over a little ( i just cant leave anything alone, truck , cb , impact gun) it will loosen stuff that our 3/4" CP at work wont touch.

i am trying to buy everything made in the usa. not doing to good but still trying.

only buy usa stuff, i dont support no commi, has any one tried the cordless snap on impacts? we got 3/8 one for around the shop and it works well for a cordless, a buddy of mine works on big rigs and has a 1/2 inch and he says it takes lugnuts on without any sweat

Had I KNOWN, I would not have bought it. Thanks for being helpful.

about the only thing made in america any more is debt. if you look back you will find NAFTA is the fault of american manufactoring jobs going over sea. now we depend on china to loan us money, i wonder how long though :scare2:

yea everybody shuld refuse to buy stuff from the commi's

Yeah, thats great in theory - but you wouldnt last a week. You also wouldnt be happy with prices of things if everything was made in the US.

two monthes ago i decided not buy any thing made in china twian or any other other commi contry and aint yet if it aint made in the usa than i dont need it, if we all keep supporting the commis then every company is guna move over there and there wont be any jobs in the U.S. AND NONE OF US WILL HAVE MONEY TO BUY ANYTHING

you dont even want to know were the components for that impact are made...

:D

ha ha probably china

I have the IR 2131 (1/2) and 2141 (3/4) and they both work great, not sure where they were built! I also have the snap on shockwave, great gun. Traded a the supposed mac top of the line 1/2" towards it, the mac was junk, wouldn't take anything off. was getting ready to fight for my $$ back on it when the snap on guy offered a full price credit towards the shockwave.