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Cummins97 02-01-2012 09:30 PM

Midwest diesel trucks?
 
I'm looking to buy a diesel again and I've found this place (name in title) located in Decatur Illinois has a lot of cummins in stock all the time. Has anyone bought from them or heard anything about them? Are they good people or should I just keep looking? Thanks guys!

dieselman2000 02-09-2012 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Cummins97 (Post 852448)
I'm looking to buy a diesel again and I've found this place (name in title) located in Decatur Illinois has a lot of cummins in stock all the time. Has anyone bought from them or heard anything about them? Are they good people or should I just keep looking? Thanks guys!

Here was my experience with Midwest Diesel Trucks, facts will only be stated here:
I called about an 03 Cummins quad cab with 245,xxx miles. Was told the truck was in excellent running condition and strongly encouraged to put down a $500 deposit to hold the truck. After talking with 3 people at Midwest Diesel Trucks and getting as much info as they would give, I went ahead with the deposit. I then ran my own carfax on the truck and saw that in 04/28/2009 the truck was serviced at a dealer in Arkansas with around 245,897 miles. So from 04/28/2009 - current date (02/07/12) the truck only had like 150 miles put on it. So I called the Dodge service department in Arkansas from the Carfax report. I provided the VIN to the guy who ran the history. He said the truck was brought in and the engine was "severely internally damaged" from leaking injectors and the repair bill would have been almost $10,000. He said the owner had them put the truck back together and came and picked it up. The truck was then sold at auction in Texas where MDT purchased it as "inoperable". After learning this I called MDT right away and demanded my money back, of course they refused so now I am battling my Visa Debit Card/Bank to get my money back on a truck I never purchased. It's a mess, but not near the mess it could of been if I had bought the truck and found out later it needed the engine. Right now I am out $500 but I think I am getting it back based on what Visa told me.

Now for my opinion:
Lesson learned for me that their prices are too good to be true. Check out Better Business Bureau, they had complaints there and the also have complaints on ripoffreport.com
I would never buy anything from them.

rodbuilder 02-13-2012 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by dieselman2000 (Post 856573)
Here was my experience with Midwest Diesel Trucks, facts will only be stated here:
I called about an 03 Cummins quad cab with 245,xxx miles. Was told the truck was in excellent running condition and strongly encouraged to put down a $500 deposit to hold the truck. After talking with 3 people at Midwest Diesel Trucks and getting as much info as they would give, I went ahead with the deposit. I then ran my own carfax on the truck and saw that in 04/28/2009 the truck was serviced at a dealer in Arkansas with around 245,897 miles. So from 04/28/2009 - current date (02/07/12) the truck only had like 150 miles put on it. So I called the Dodge service department in Arkansas from the Carfax report. I provided the VIN to the guy who ran the history. He said the truck was brought in and the engine was "severely internally damaged" from leaking injectors and the repair bill would have been almost $10,000. He said the owner had them put the truck back together and came and picked it up. The truck was then sold at auction in Texas where MDT purchased it as "inoperable". After learning this I called MDT right away and demanded my money back, of course they refused so now I am battling my Visa Debit Card/Bank to get my money back on a truck I never purchased. It's a mess, but not near the mess it could of been if I had bought the truck and found out later it needed the engine. Right now I am out $500 but I think I am getting it back based on what Visa told me.

Now for my opinion:
Lesson learned for me that their prices are too good to be true. Check out Better Business Bureau, they had complaints there and the also have complaints on ripoffreport.com
I would never buy anything from them.



NOW HEAR THIS!!!! I was a dealer in Illinois and am here to tell you that if you call the Ill; Sec. of State Police and file a complaint, you WILL get your money back.

I've sold cars in 3 states and it's FEDERAL law that when you buy a vehicle you don't show "ownership" of it till it goes across their curb! It the business it's called "curbing a car".

I live in Dixon, Illinois and DO know the law on this!!!! Phil - 815 - 973 - 8128.

OR - if you want me to be your middle man CALL ME and I'll contact the owner and get your dough back!

4010jd 02-19-2012 11:54 AM

I had a similar experience but luckily not out any $. I found a truck online and it looked like a good deal but the carfax showed it had only been driven a few hundred miles in the last 3 years. I called and asked about it and was told it had been in the shop for a while getting new injectors and the previous owner hardly drove it. When I went to look at it the spedo and odometer were not functional so who knows how many miles it had but I'm sure it was a lot more than was listed.

Rodeogal20 01-17-2013 12:12 PM

Midwest Diesel Trucks
 
My Fiancé found a truck on their website, called and put the $500.00 deposit down. Then Midwest Diesel sold the truck to another customer. One of the people listed on their website from Midwest Diesel called and spoke with my Fiancé and told him of the mistake and offered the other truck that they had available for the same price. Although they stated they would charge him an extra $100.00 for tinting the windows (which I believe the window's were already tinted they were just trying to get extra money). I called and spoke with someone from Midwest Diesel and told him that they should be fixing their mistake. They should offer all of the things that were on the original truck to my Fiancé free of charge. Since it was their mistake. He was not helpful at all and stated they were already giving him a good deal. He stated that he did not need our business after I told him that I would be putting what they did to my Fiancé on the internet. My Fiancé called and spoke with another sales person or manager and asked them to reimburse the $500.00 deposit that he put down, which they did. He also stated that he would be speaking with the person that I spoke with regarding the way he spoke with me. I just feel that the person I spoke with has no customer service abilities. And I feel that it is wrong what they did to my Fiancé.

Ns19943 07-10-2013 10:46 AM

I was literally going to head down that way today, thank god I caught this and wont waste my time

Broadbc 07-28-2013 05:19 PM

Midwest diesel
 
My experience on July 27 2013,
Talked to several in personable people at Midwest diesel (wow), sent pics of my trade explained details of my truck they said no problem $8000 value which is same as 3 other dealerships said so far enough drove 10hours with girlfriend and child to find out that my trade was now only worth 5000 because I didn't send enough pics so after negotiating with owner (who is very arrogant cause your wasting his time with my junk) had me right where he wanted me cause lets face it I drove 10hours so stupid me bought truck of my dreams that I've saved forever for came to notice oil leak which I asked his mechanic to look at, the owner said it wasn't big deal I could have someone fix back home (great business). So left made it 30miles and trucked dropped power so I called him he said I should check filter I said you send mechanic so his so called mechanic who lives 2 hours in opposite direction called and said its probably dirt I should try driving so I called owner and said what should I do he said bring here if you want I won't be here but you can drop off and I will try to get someone to look at it maybe Sunday well I had to get back home so I said call me back when you find mechanic needless to say its now Sunday 6:15 and still now call so as far as he knows my family is still sitting along road but we got home 15 hours later due to 45 pullovers tow truck and finding out at advanced auto that a code for injector 1 being bad was erased according to Illinois law he has to inform me of any mechanical problems even as is so this issue is far from over
P.s. thank god kid was along or I would probably be in jail in illinois

Du KCCO 09-19-2013 09:34 PM

Don't even look at a truck at mid west diesel
 
I went there and every thing they told me was a lie. I set up an account on db just so I could hopfully keep at least one person from wasting there time. I was told truck had no mods on it and that it ran great and was in good condition. They were right it had no mods, but it did have plenty of extra wires where some type of mod was. The interior was a wreck and all the pics they had did a very good job of hiding the smashed dash and all the Tares in the seats, the paint was scratched and faded. So I went inside cause I was still interested in the truck but just for less money. Apon entering the building no one was there so I said hello and some kid came out and he asked what I thought so I told him the above problems and he tells me that all those things are standard with dodge and they weren't coming down on the price and then he asked what I was trading in so he went looked at my truck and said we don't take trades that are gas only diesel. I said the guy on the phone said no prob on my truck. Needless to say if your thinking about a truck here don't do it. I wouldn't even look at a truck if I lived in that town

rosshurlow1 02-25-2014 04:08 PM

two years ago I bought my first truck 02 7.3 from them with 236k. When I got it home realized it needed ball joints, and had transmission damage. I accepted it. The truck wasn't the one had my eye on though. I wanted a 01 crew cab looked dam good, but after the wait to start light it cranked insanely fast(low compression) and poured white smoke on a day it was 70 degrees! The salesman came out and claimed it just needed the batteries charged lol. as I was crawling around the 02 a car hauler came with a load of dodges, fords, and chevys. I only saw him unload a common rail dodge, and that truck smoked like crazy at idle(Serious engine damage). I was in there shop too and their isn't more than turtle wax and a harbor freight jack. Their not going to fix those trucks just hide the problems. I also inquired about a trade for a cummins and they asked me how much I was looking for. I said around 9k(high I know, bought it for 9,500 but done a lot of cosmetic upgrades) I thougt they would shoot me a counter offer. No, they told me I'm crazy and to have a nice day lol

rowekmr 02-25-2014 05:05 PM

Thanks to this thread a few trucks I looked at online from this place I didn't waste my time going out there to get. I called them once and they gave vague answers but the prices and pics were tempting. This was the only thread I could find from all diesel forums which surprises me if they are this bad.

John Smith 09-06-2016 12:21 PM

There is some seriously shady stuff going on here.
 
I received word about Midwest Diesel Trucks, through an individual close to me. It was brought to my attention, that this person felt they got a good deal by purchasing from MDT. I was in the market for a truck, scanned their website for vehicles, and came across a 2006 Ford F350 with the 6 litre diesel. It appeared in good shape, and after talking with Tim at MDT several times, he informed me that this truck passed all their inspections, had no faults or codes that would prohibit it from passing emissions, and said it was a good runner that pulled hard. I didn't have time or the patience, to rent a car, pay tolls, and screw around in Illinois, so I was taking Tim's word on this, and also an individual who felt they received a decent deal at that time, as my leverage to go ahead with the deal. I needed a reliable vehicle as I just sold back my Dodge Ram truck to a dealership, because of a faulty transmission. I wired the money to the MDT, paid extra to have it shipped to me, and a couple days later it arrived. Jumping into the drivers seat, turning the key to start the truck, I waited for the glow plug light to turn off, fired it up, which it started hard, and a TPC failure light came on. It went away after hitting the reset button, and the truck seemed to drive and ride OK. One week later, an engine light comes on, I take it to a shop, they hook it up onto a diagnostic machine, and the readout is as follows. A brake light code and an egr code. The shop checked the brake lights and they were working fine, and I was advised there was an egr delete done to the engine prior to purchasing, but Tim said it did not set off any codes! What did they do to get the codes to disappear for a week, just to get it out the door? Oh, and I noticed that the interior of my truck, is not the same as the pictures MDT put online. I believe that's called false advertisement! I want so bad to report these guys to the Better Business Bureau, but what will they do?....Nothing. I bought this terd heap as is, and am stuck with it. The best thing to do is to get the word out, how bad this company is.

rodbuilder 09-06-2016 03:09 PM

I hate like hell to say tis, but I told ya' so!!!

But why in the HELL did you buy a 6.0 Ford? If you paid over $4500 for that thing you REALLY got screwed. Personally I wouldn't have one if it was free!

About 4 years ago I drove from Northern Illinois to Houston to buy a 2004 Ford to resell, after seeing them going from $15,000-$16,000 on Ebay.

I bought the truck for $11,300, put a set of front hubs and bearings on it and was IN the truck $14,500 with my trip. That turd wouldn't bring $6500 on Ebay!! I finally traded it here for a bad ass custom chopper, then sold the chopper 3 months later and lost $500 on the whole deal.

NEVER would I look at another 6.0 Ford. N-E-V-E-R.

Now as for your deal. Here's the law - If you buy something from someone (dealer or not) it's pretty much an "as-is" sale, UNLESS they gave you a warranty in writing, OR you can show a court that they misrepresented the sale, by failing to disclose something that would have prevented you from making the purchase.

The best part about your deal, is that you can file suit against them in YOUR state, because you consummated this deal via the Internet and at NO time stepped foot on their lot!!!! Accordingly, your county court has jurisdiction in this case! And trust me that's exactly where you want to file it, because (if it's a small claims suit) Illinois Small Claims laws suck. In this state the Plaintiff and Defendant can have a lawyer. In most other states lawyers are prohibited from practicing in Small Claims! And I think out limit in SC is only $12,000 and if that's not right I'm really close.

You have 2 ways to go, and I am assuming that you paid more for the truck than your Small Claims court will allow?

1. File a civil suit against them for the total amount of the purchase, plus the associated costs of getting the truck delivered, etc...............which will require a lawyer, etc,., etc.
2. Take the truck to a qualified diesel shop, or a Ford dealer (preferred) and get an estimate to repair the truck TO THE LEVEL OF QUALITY THAT MIDWEST DIESEL REPRESENTED THAT IT WAS IN, IN THEIR ONLINE ADVERTISEMENT, THAT YOU RELIED UPON. File a Small Claims case against them in YOUR court, demanding that they pay you the amount of that estimate, PLUS court costs, filing fees and service fees.

Once you have them served they will have to come to YOUR court to fight the case, and, according to YOUR state's Small Claims laws I'm pretty sure that they won't be able to have a lawyer with them!

GET BUSY. ACT ON THIS NOW.

If you're looking for a Diesel truck I just got back from Texas with a 2004 Chevy dually crew cab 4x4 that I'm selling. It needs tires and a few minor trinkets to make it nice. If anyone wants this truck they can have it for $8875.


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