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rockymtn 06-24-2010 06:32 AM

What do I do now?
 
Hi all, I hope somebody has some insight into what to do from here.
I am supposed to purchase a Dodge diesel truck this Saturday in Pennsylvania. The current owner is temporarily living in West Virginia, but the truck is titled in New York. The Illinois DMV will not issue a trip permit for a vehicle coming into Illinois only going out. The Pennsylvania DMV will not issue because vehicle is not registered in Penn or even a resident.
The owner can't get back to New York where it is titled. Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks:s:

Budgreen 06-24-2010 07:15 AM

know anyone with a trailer? u-haul tow dolly?

kind of a weird situation your in there bud.. sure the deal is on the up and up?

best bet would be to get the title transferred to you first, then go get a temp/transport tag for it another day and bring it back.

er, yeah.. if you get an illinois temp tag for it you should be able to drive it back on that.

motorboat 06-24-2010 08:14 AM

You may not want to do this but, I did and it worked.

I bought a truck in Las Vegas and drove it home to Alabama with the following documents and no tag.

Title, Bill Of Sale, Proof of Insurance. Called my ins company, added the truck and they faxed me proof.

Was stopped twice on the way home. Oklahoma, 15 minute stop, Trooper said "have a nice day". Mississippi, Trooper took my paperwork, 10 minutes later says "Well, it aint stolen,........ nice truck".

Make sure that you verify that the VIN # matches the title.

Just a suggestion since you asked.

1trucker 06-24-2010 08:24 AM

either suggestion will work if ya tow it take the plates off if ya drive it bill of sale and insurance should be good as long as it is not stolen they wont bother ya

rockymtn 06-24-2010 09:12 AM

Thanks guys I appreciate the personal experience.:tu:

barkrulz 06-24-2010 09:34 AM

When you do your bill of sale, or reciept put the purchase date on the paper on the bottom in giant black numbers (2" should do) with a fat ass magic marker. Hang the bill of sale in the back window behind the driver, look at it from behind and make sure you can clearly see and read it.

As hard as it will be, obey all traffic signs and the speed limit (<---READ THAT TWICE).

This should keep ya from being pulled over.

Technically you could be sited for driving an unregisted vehicle.

redneck11 06-24-2010 09:53 AM

transporter plates work too :tu:

Budgreen 06-24-2010 02:20 PM

Friends and I have done the bill of sale thing, but only locally.. once it was written out on a 12pack box :w2:

never got pulled over, moved at night, and the bill of sale in the back window looked close enuff to a temp tag that we never got messed with. I wouldn't recommend it for a long trip tho..

jasonfriedlin 06-24-2010 04:27 PM

Id put insurance on it and drive it. The chances of a cop following you any length of time to notice there is no tag is slim to none. Im sure most of them will be understanding as long as you have a bill of sale and proof of insurance

Budgreen 06-24-2010 11:10 PM

no no no

he has to cross ohio, nuff said!

driving through will get u busted.. turnpike? they scan all incomming plates at both ends to check validity/stolen/warrants so thats out, bypass that and a statie will most likely get you if not a sherrif of podunk town cop. ask any trucker bout ohio...

smokeeaterlb7 06-25-2010 04:56 AM

are you replacing a vehicle with this truck?? if so you may be able to take the plates off the old vehicle(as long as they are current) put them on the truck and have the bill of sale. IDK about other states, but in Indiana, you have 30 days to get the registrations transferred to the new vehicle.

or, if you happen to have a friend that is a car salesman, see if he can write up a temp tag. not exactley legal, but it would do until you got it transferred... jsut dont get caught.:w2:

Gerry 06-25-2010 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by smokeeaterlb7 (Post 579252)
are you replacing a vehicle with this truck?? if so you may be able to take the plates off the old vehicle(as long as they are current) put them on the truck and have the bill of sale. IDK about other states, but in Indiana, you have 30 days to get the registrations transferred to the new vehicle.

or, if you happen to have a friend that is a car salesman, see if he can write up a temp tag. not exactley legal, but it would do until you got it transferred... jsut dont get caught.:w2:

well let me just say that if you replace the plate with a plate from another vehicle.. In most states it is a FELONY... also if a law enforcement officer checks the plate and it doesn't belong to the vehicle it is attached to "cold plate" then you will find yourself proned out on the road and detained untill everything is figured out.....

rockymtn 06-25-2010 12:22 PM

I appreciate the comments guys. At this point there is nothing I can do about it permit wise, so I guess I'm posting the bill of sale on back window and going for it. I do have documentation that I tried getting permits in all of the states involved and until or if I get back to Illinois no one will issue anything.

brindle_bull 06-25-2010 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by smokeeaterlb7 (Post 579252)
are you replacing a vehicle with this truck?? if so you may be able to take the plates off the old vehicle(as long as they are current) put them on the truck and have the bill of sale. IDK about other states, but in Indiana, you have 30 days to get the registrations transferred to the new vehicle. :


X2 not that it counts in this situation but in tx ok and ks its like that, 30 days on old vehical tag as long as its current and theres a bill of sale verifying the purchase date.

06Dodge 06-25-2010 12:49 PM

In IA the plates on my car/truck are assigned to me and they follow me from the old car/truck to the new one, we also have 30 days to have it registered the new one with the state.

NadirPoint 06-25-2010 01:36 PM

Hmmmm. Titled in NY, living in WVa, transaction in PA?

I don't think I'd even get involved with that at all. Sorry, I'm sure it's all perfectly legitimate, just don't like the sound of it. :w2:

Then again, it could be stolen. Get caught driving that somewhere west of the Ohio river, sure would suck to be you.

DIRTYMAX2004 06-26-2010 09:05 AM

in north dakota our registration cards have the permit on the back. if you sell the vehicle you just fill it out and make a bill a sale and put on insurance. you have 30 days to get it registered.

barkrulz 06-26-2010 09:02 PM

MT plates stay with the person as well, but the registration still needs the new VIN

rockymtn 06-28-2010 07:51 AM

Hi all,
special thanks to Budgreen for the ohio advice. I showed the registered owners all the posts and they agreed to let me keep the plates for the drive home. I saw so many active state police along the way I know we probably would have been detained for sure. We are home now and the work can begin. developed a major oil leak and took about 6 gallons of oil to make the drive. Needless to say the bottom of the truck will probably never rust...
Russ

motorboat 06-28-2010 09:12 AM

Glad you made it:jump:

Budgreen 06-28-2010 12:27 PM

I can swap plates in ohio IF I have proof I got rid of the other vehicle.

anyways, looks like all is good. glad you didn't run into any problems here :tu:


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